mmc Publish time 10-11-2004 12:52 PM

at least both systems allows consort defence....a matter a lot of people does not understand is as valuable as area defence, esp in the context of our navy as our armada formation will consists of flotillas and i don't think our battle group will spread out as wide as the 1st tier navies....i remember one ex featured in the local mags how lekiu ffgs and laksamana fsgs acted as the battle group's AD screen, that will have aspide(sparrow derivative) and seawolf forming the outer AD layers while the respective ships AA guns for Closed-In defence, including inderapura's phalanx..in this case the only ships outside the AD screen are the MCMVs that was sweeping in front of the battle group....

venez, saya presume our AB AD layers pun akan jadi something similar bila jernas sampai, with jernas, 35mm skyshield and manpads forming the layers...

GAPU pulak berlatih dgn skyshield, bofi, manpads dan 20mm mounted vehicles sbg AD bila tgk rencana latihan mereka.

lipanlapan Publish time 24-11-2004 04:27 PM

dlm byk2 misil2, Finland pilih Umkhonto

The Finnish Navy has signed a contract with Kentron for the supply of Umkhonto-IR SAMs and associated fire-control equipment, to equip six vessels for their Squadron 2000 project.
It is believed that the special features of Umkhonto-IR, including its multiple target and vertical-launch capability, outclassed the tough international competition.

The long-term support of the South African National Defence Force (SANDF) made it possible for the SA Navy to become the launch customer of the Umkhonto-IR system to equip its Meko A-200 patrol corvettes. The SA Navy抯 act of faith in the local industry was instrumental in enabling Kentron to put together a credible marketing package to prospective clients.

The fact that Finland is a member of the European Union makes the selection of Umkhonto-IR all the more significant, and creates a solid platform for future marketing and sales.

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Gamba Project 200 sket..

http://www.fy-composites.com/ohjusvene1.jpg http://www.ship-technology.com/contractor_images/helkama/helkama4.jpg

Dan ini, Sweden
http://hem.bredband.net/darkwand/WAF_Signature.jpg

eva Publish time 25-11-2004 01:18 AM

Originally posted by lipanlapan at 24-11-2004 08:27:

http://www.fy-composites.com/ohjusvene1.jpg


http://www.ship-technology.com/contractor_images/helkama/helkama4.jpg


http://hem.bredband.net/darkwand/WAF_Signature.jpg


...

lawa gambar tu lipan :clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

:off: tadi eva pergi ke bookstore... byk pula buku2 murah2 mengenai tentera sepertikapal perang.. paling murah dlm

alphawolf Publish time 25-11-2004 08:55 AM

Tu la eva, one thing i missed about Uk...dapat cari buku murah2!

eva Publish time 26-11-2004 01:18 AM

Originally posted by alphawolf at 25-11-2004 00:55:
Tu la eva, one thing i missed about Uk...dapat cari buku murah2!
hehe :bgrin: .. nie kan dah nak dekat Xmas.. so dorian runtuh la. Buku yg dia offer sekarang nie memang yg best2. tapi sayang eva beli buku masakan dan jahitan je, lelain tu nanti nanti la ;)

eva Publish time 26-11-2004 01:19 AM

Originally posted by alphawolf at 25-11-2004 00:55:
Tu la eva, one thing i missed about Uk...dapat cari buku murah2!
alpha.. buku nie good quality punya.. sbb eva tengok cover dia pon kulit tebal. sizenya seperti file.

mmc Publish time 26-11-2004 09:02 AM

Originally posted by eva at 25-11-2004 01:18 AM:


lawa gambar tu lipan :clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

:off: tadi eva pergi ke bookstore... byk pula buku2 murah2 mengenai tentera sepertikapal perang.. paling murah dlm

lipanlapan Publish time 26-11-2004 09:44 AM

Originally posted by mmc at 26-11-2004 09:02 AM:


err...tak nak buat bisnes ke eva:cak:.....list down senarai buku dan tolong beli dan post pakai royal mail aja....margin tu pandai-pandaila...payment kita buat international t.tla...saya fasal...

yeaaa :setuju:

eva Publish time 26-11-2004 10:39 PM

Originally posted by mmc at 26-11-2004 01:02:


err...tak nak buat bisnes ke eva:cak:.....list down senarai buku dan tolong beli dan post pakai royal mail aja....margin tu pandai-pandaila...payment kita buat international t.tla...saya fasal...
:P tanya boss.. :bgrin: rasanya dia tak kasi la :bgrin:

mmc Publish time 28-12-2004 12:40 PM

Kita selalu kat TNI keterbelakang...ttp nampak gayanya mereka akan mempunyai flotila kapal pengangkut tercanngih di rantau ini:(:cry::malu:

Daewoo International to Export 4 Warships to Indonesia


http://photo.hankooki.com/gisaphoto/20041221/sian10082004122118241701221c_2.jpgThis is one of the warships that Daewoo International is exporting to indonesia.

By Na Jeong-ju
Staff Reporter
Daewoo International Corp, a major Korean trading company, said Tuesday it has signed a $150-million contract to provide four warships to the Indonesian navy in what is viewed as a major step in boosting its presence in the naval technology business in Southeast Asian countries.

The four warships _ three common landing platform docks (LPDs) and a command ship _ will be exported to Indonesia from January for use by its navy in warfare and practice missions, the firm said.

The LPD is designed to transport troops into a war zone by sea using landing craft. It embarks, transports and lands soldiers and landing craft and can also be used for landings by helicopters.

Daewoo International said in a statement that the contract was a result of the know-how and capabilities it and its partners have built up in the military ship business. South Korea抯 Dae Sun Shipbuilding & Engineering has manufactured two of the LPDs and will give technological support to Indonesian firms for the building of the remaining two, Daewoo said.

LPDs are emerging as key military items for Southeast Asian countries for enhancing naval defense capabilities, Daewoo International said, adding it expects mega deals from other nations in the coming months.

Daewoo International has been playing a bridging role between South Korean shipbuilding firms and the Indonesian navy for exports of naval technology. The firm signed a contract worth $50 million in 2000 to provide a multi-purpose hospital ship and tug boats to the Indonesian navy. In 2003 it won a $60-million Indonesian military project to enhance submarine facilities and naval warfare capabilities.

http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/biz/200412/kt2004122116433511910.htm

jj@koreatimes.co.kr

StealthTuah Publish time 28-12-2004 01:42 PM

Ala, itu adik bradik KRI Tjg Dalpele..rasae dah lama gak dlm perkhidmatan tahun lpas lagi.masa trilateral patrol ari tu menatang tu adaer..kite xyah terkejar2 diorang..baik tmbhkan surface combatant dulu baru pikir LPD ke LST ke..jgn ckp dulu..kang kena kutuk ngan Sg lagi..

alphawolf Publish time 28-12-2004 02:25 PM

Betul ler ST, lagipun nak protect gator navy tu kena kapalperang jugak so kena kuatkan combat fleet dulu. Tang TNI-AL tu, aku rasa mmg depa perlu sesangat kapal camtu sebab, bayangkan le ada 13,000 pulau......kurang2 untuk disaster relief.

azzuri Publish time 29-12-2004 10:40 AM

hm..ade baiknya kita bagi tumpuan untuk projek NGPV nie dulu. especially untuk batch II nie. Rasanya dari segi persenjataan NGPV tu masih perlu upgrade, maybe sampai kelas korvet atau mini frigate. Kalau nak harapkan DP gun aje rasanya tak praktikal langsung. Kapal nie bukan untuk APMM, n furtuh more crew atas kapal pun kena familiar dengan sistem atas kapal. nanti bila ade konflik, pasang senjata macam macam pastu krew termenung jap...taktau camne nak guna. ha tak ke haru camtu..anybody got news for projek lekiu batch II?

jofizo Publish time 29-12-2004 10:45 AM

Originally posted by azzuri at 29-12-2004 10:40 AM:
hm..ade baiknya kita bagi tumpuan untuk projek NGPV nie dulu. especially untuk batch II nie. Rasanya dari segi persenjataan NGPV tu masih perlu upgrade, maybe sampai kelas korvet atau mini frigate. ...


tu lah masalahnya, pembinaan kapal tu berkonsepkan 'can fit but not with', kalau berlaku konflik baru kelam kabut...........

azzuri Publish time 29-12-2004 12:58 PM

sepatutnya kita pelbagaikan penggunaan kapal tersebut..anyway lucky enough for us sbb tsunami bebaru nie tak effect lumut naval base. Kalau tak...mana la nak cari duit perbaik kapal perang tuh.

StealthTuah Publish time 29-12-2004 04:51 PM

Originally posted by jofizo at 2004/12/07 10:45 AM:



tu lah masalahnya, pembinaan kapal tu berkonsepkan 'can fit but not with', kalau berlaku konflik baru kelam kabut...........

Tp kan, xlogikla kalau krew2 smua xdilatih utk sistem persenjataan kejap ade kejap xde tuh.aku rasa kalau dah ader 6 bijik (at least) utk training, some of it mesti dipsg ngan weaponry, pastu kpl lain plak psg,kirenya ikut giliranla supaya smua krew diberi latihan camtu.itu yg aku agakla.tp kalau nak ikut pdpt aku, kalau dah pasang jgnler bukak2..bangang nak mampuih ler kalau diorang xbg training:clap:..tup2 terpasang time war..mcm plug n play plak...

azzuri Publish time 29-12-2004 09:53 PM

Originally posted by StealthTuah at 29-12-2004 16:51:


Tp kan, xlogikla kalau krew2 smua xdilatih utk sistem persenjataan kejap ade kejap xde tuh.aku rasa kalau dah ader 6 bijik (at least) utk training, some of it mesti dipsg ngan weaponry, pastu k ...


tak logik??? tapi mmg tu la yang jadi skang nie. crew kapal plak bukan selamanya akan ade kat sesebuah kapal. dia akan berpindah bila sampai masa tertentu. jadi sistem tak familiar. saya pernah sembang dgn beberapa krew kapal tldm kd jebat masa hari terbuka armada, rata rata diaorg datang dari berbagai kapal lain sblum ini. n agak terkejut bila tanya sistem senjata kapal sebelah diaorg tak tau sbb tak pernah bertugas kat kapal tu, wlaupun dah dekat 2 tahun join tldm? pelik...:stp:

azzuri Publish time 29-12-2004 09:59 PM

training bagi seorang anggota tentera plak,dia dilatih bukannye sekadar tahu menggunakan tetapi dari semua aspek. kira kalau bukak m 16 tu kena tau pasang balik, in some cases kena blind fold. sume ni buat untuk memastikan org yang menggunakan senjata itu adalah yang terbaik!. takkan la nak training untuk 3 bulan pastu tinggal camtu aje. nanti bila dah jadi konflik dah ingat-ingat lupa. delay beberapa saat pun bleh tentukan kemenangan atau kekalahan..

alphawolf Publish time 30-12-2004 08:29 AM

Originally posted by azzuri at 29-12-2004 21:53:



tak logik??? tapi mmg tu la yang jadi skang nie. crew kapal plak bukan selamanya akan ade kat sesebuah kapal. dia akan berpindah bila sampai masa tertentu. jadi sistem tak familiar. saya pern ...

Tak tahu atau satu cara nak elak kena jawab bebanyak?

azzuri Publish time 30-12-2004 10:50 AM

entahlah, tapi kalau dah namanye hari terbuka, n petugas atas kapal kena le cakap..wallahualam
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