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[Tempatan] Tragedi MH17 V6 : Preliminary Report

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Post time 11-9-2014 01:08 PM | Show all posts
Nham22 posted on 11-9-2014 12:47 PM

nampak mcm dia target kokpit dulu ni
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Post time 11-9-2014 01:13 PM | Show all posts
mnm77 posted on 11-9-2014 10:57 AM
Bahagian mana yang tak faham?

Adakah:


-singkatan/abbreviation? byk tak paham...too much pilot language
-bahasa? Bi standard paham la...

tak pa..kami semua yg bukan pilot ni dlm learning process..pelan2 kayuh..hehe

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Post time 11-9-2014 01:17 PM | Show all posts
scarflicious posted on 11-9-2014 01:00 PM
Mmg gi tembak kat kokpit. Kasi bunuh pilot semua??

But why?

Depa tak aim kokpit, hasrat depa mmg nak jatuhkan kapai tu sebab depa ingat tu kapai military ukraine. Kalau misil tu ditembak dari timur laut ukraine, mmg arah tujunya secara logik berdepan dgn arah kiri kokpit pesawat berkenaan. Kerja misil tu utk intercept saja, dia tak aim mana2, once dah berada dlm jarak utk proximity fuzenya diaktifkan, ia akan meletuskan fragments nya, mana mana dan siapa2 saja yg ada dlm lingkungan tu akan kena.
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Post time 11-9-2014 01:58 PM | Show all posts
mnm77 posted on 11-9-2014 08:22 AM
Then macamana nak justify kesan tembus masuk shrapnel dari sebelah kiri cockpit?

Jeng... jeng.. ...

kan dia suh disgrace lu kan...
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Post time 11-9-2014 02:00 PM | Show all posts
MsCinderella posted on 11-9-2014 09:59 AM
huhu stress baca sini sbb x paham....

x paham kalu..si la tanya inche Zain Mahmud aka disgrace master..dia tu pako..mengalah inche botakchinpong...
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Post time 11-9-2014 02:02 PM | Show all posts
cak! posted on 11-9-2014 10:53 AM
nk bincang boleh ni dok digrace kesana kemari suruh org len dok diam mcm penddapat dia je btul

wa dah lama tgk dia mcm tu..jenis attention seeker...anggap diri tu pandai lagi dari orang..even kelana36 pun dia pertikaikan..what to do? wat bo layan je spesis mcm tu....
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Post time 11-9-2014 02:04 PM | Show all posts
mnm77 posted on 11-9-2014 11:49 AM
Ko guna imagination saja nak justify BUK tu? Ingatkan guna scientific logic...

Cuba tengok bali ...

waaaa manyak belani lu pertikai kan master tu aaaa..lu x takut kena disgrace kaaaa....
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Post time 11-9-2014 02:08 PM | Show all posts
mnm77 posted on 11-9-2014 12:07 PM
Kesan seumpama misil tu dari orang yang komen report tu, bukan directly dari report tu

Gambar d ...

sebenor nya wa heran benor kenapa dia beriya2 benor nak suh orang ketepikan teori 30mm tu? dia ada kaitan or kepentingan ke dalam kes ni? ce lu pikir..orang x setuju dgn dia..terus dicap as disgrace......pelik tul mamat tu..agak2 obat gila lom ambik lagi kot..cam biasa..orang gila x bley dilayan sangat..setakat layan utk wat stok lepas tension bley jugak.....orang macam ni..dlm militari...anak buah dia mmg otak buntu je..nak tanya x bagi..
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Post time 11-9-2014 02:12 PM | Show all posts
Nham22 posted on 10-9-2014 12:41 PM
Oooo ni maknenye bukan tersalah tembak or what..ni mmg niat nak jatuhkan aircraft mas...mmg niat nk  ...

teori aku.. adalah untuk tarik perhatian dunia ke atas wilayah ukraine ni yg dikuasai puak rebel rusia.
so kalau tembak public flight.. wilayah tu akan nak tak nak akan dibuka pihak ke 3 untuk masuk dalam wilayah itu..
ni lebih perang saraf antara rusia and US.kita tau rusia nak takluk ukraine.

MH370 plak antara US and china..

MAS hanya collatral damage.. instead pilih SG (kat belakang MH17) and MAs.. baik pilih MAS untuk ditembak..MAs/MAlaysia pun bising2 apa leh buat pun..
kalau tembak singapore.. yg bising singapore and backup by US.

company aku apa2 flight travel semua tak pilih MAS dah..kesian MAS tp apa leh buat..terima aje lah.

pada aku mana2 flight pun terdedah pada serangan mcm ini. baling batu sembunyi tangan.. semua airlines.. tp factor2 negara dan airlines memainkan peranan dari segi faktor pengganas untuk memilih airlines untuk take advantage mcm kes ini.











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Post time 11-9-2014 02:15 PM | Show all posts
Pilot's dgn pilot's bertelagah pandangan dan jawapan.Kami dari umat Cari, bengong memikirkan kosa kata ayat2 mereka
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Post time 11-9-2014 02:20 PM | Show all posts
mnm77 posted on 11-9-2014 05:43 AM
Thanks for this info, really aprreciate. I'm no pilot, but a researcher. Masa kecik2 dulu memang c ...

they were asked to climb F350 sebab ada traffic lain at F330, unable to climb so alternatively dia orang mintak F340. Kalau tak ada traffic lain, sometime ATC bagi buat sementara waktu due to separation, sebab itu nonstandard level. Pilot tu pun kena cakap " request non standard level FL340"


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Post time 11-9-2014 02:28 PM | Show all posts
nordayu posted on 11-9-2014 02:15 PM
Pilot's dgn pilot's bertelagah pandangan dan jawapan.Kami dari umat Cari, bengong memikirkan kosa ka ...

kapten nik tak masuk porum lak
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Post time 11-9-2014 02:33 PM | Show all posts
MsCinderella posted on 11-9-2014 02:28 PM
kapten nik tak masuk porum lak

kapten nik xmaw msuk..takut di khuatiri kena hentam jah
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Post time 11-9-2014 02:35 PM | Show all posts
biggirlduncry posted on 10-9-2014 09:50 PM
When the conversation stopped....


selalunya siapa yg communicate dgn atc ek? kapten ke fo?
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Post time 11-9-2014 02:50 PM | Show all posts
zainmahmud posted on 11-9-2014 01:06 PM
MOSCOW, September 10 (RIA Novosti) – Unidentified fragments that have been found in the bodies of ...

Ini bukan bukti rasmi shrapnel dari SA missile, ini UNIDENTIFIED FRAGMENTS.... boleh jadi dari SA missile, boleh jadi dari AA missile, boleh jadi kesan letupan pada cockpit.

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Post time 11-9-2014 02:56 PM | Show all posts
kalo betul la buk-m mrupakan culprit dlm nahas mh-17, jadi ianya milik sapa pulak... jeng jeng jeng...

1) Russia da kasi bukti image satelit, ukraine moperasi buk-m bhampiran kwsan nahas sbelum & selepas kjadian...
2) russia juga bg bukti image radar ttg khadiran su-25? bhampiran mh-17... bkmungkinan jet tu dgunakan mgenal pasti pesawat sbelum mh-17 dtembak jatuh.
3) US spy agency kata nak kasi image satelit yg konon nyer boleh jejak missile sapa yg mlancarkan nya... tp hanya kuarkan gambar graphic jea yg cuba kait puak rebel...
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Post time 11-9-2014 02:57 PM | Show all posts
razhar posted on 11-9-2014 02:04 PM
waaaa manyak belani lu pertikai kan master tu aaaa..lu x takut kena disgrace kaaaa....

Hehehe... tak apa kalau dia nak disgrace orang, kalau dia sendiri yang kantoi, dia akan terasa sendirinya teramat malu. Kita sini bukan pakar dalam segala bidang, kita bincang, kalau ada yang pakar kita tanya.

Thread yang sebelum ni dia tak percaya ada Dnipro ATC kat Ukraine, dia ingat seluruh Ukraine pakai satu centralise ATC ja. Kita tak pula disgrace dia bila dia dah terang-terang salah, tapi akhirnya dia sedar yang dia dah salah.


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Post time 11-9-2014 02:58 PM | Show all posts
rasa nyer atc record sudah deditkan...

"On his blog, Christian Roger, Board Commander on Air France Boeing 747 ER, former leader of the « Patrouille de France » (the aerobatic demonstration team of the French Air Force) who acted as an expert for the Sharm El Sheikh crash (2004), and former President of the Air France Bureau of the SNPL, the National Union of airline pilots – 1986 / 1990, mentions two very troubling facts: the Malaysian airliner flew farther North than the air traffic lane followed by airplanes flying over Ukraine, and the Ukrainian secret services have immediately seized the recordings made by the aerial control in Kiev."
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Post time 11-9-2014 03:00 PM | Show all posts
Ukraine pakar dlm pnipuan... contoh,

"The Ukrainian government, contrarily to its first declarations about a 40km cease-fire zone around the crash-site, is pursuing combat activities which are now preventing investigators to reach the crash-site. It appears clearly that seeking the truth is not the main concern of the Ukrainian government."

Mula2 kata nak kasi clearance buat para penyiasat antrabangsa buat siasatan d kwsan nahas, tp pada sama mgambil ksempatan mlancarkan serangan k atas rebel, so apa motif ukraine sbenar nya...
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Post time 11-9-2014 03:00 PM | Show all posts
MsCinderella posted on 11-9-2014 01:13 PM
-singkatan/abbreviation? byk tak paham...too much pilot language
-bahasa? Bi standard paham la. ...

Ooo abbreviation... memang orang yang dalam bidang mereka, mereka faham. Selain pilot language, dah masuk military langguage sama bila kaji pasal tembak menembak ni.

Saya pun bukan pilot, tapi saya ambil tahu lah sikit-sikit abbreviation untuk faham discussion.


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