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[Tempatan] Tragedi MH17 V6 : Preliminary Report

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Post time 10-9-2014 03:28 PM | Show all posts
kelana36 posted on 10-9-2014 02:43 PM
i read the report somewhere, MH17 was asked to climb to FL350 sebab ada conflicting traffic tapi M ...

Tuan mcm nak merendah2 kan keintlijen poster no. 110 ke???? Tuan ni cuma pilot..Tuan bkn nya lagi AF,okay? so diharap Tuan dapat dgr dan terima ayat2 poster no.110 tu...
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Post time 10-9-2014 03:28 PM | Show all posts
lizaliza posted on 10-9-2014 02:50 PM
aku cuma berminat nak tau saper tembak? untuk apa?

Untuk bagi amaran kot....
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Post time 10-9-2014 03:30 PM | Show all posts
nordayu posted on 10-9-2014 02:28 PM
Formulasi........

Adakah anda pilot yang kami cari

x..sila ikut kehendak si poster no. 110 tu..dia ada high-security clearance woooo....level 10 punya security clearance....
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Post time 10-9-2014 03:32 PM | Show all posts
kelana36 posted on 10-9-2014 02:43 PM
i read the report somewhere, MH17 was asked to climb to FL350 sebab ada conflicting traffic tapi M ...

err shall i say Fulcrum? dive from above to 'spray'?
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Post time 10-9-2014 03:34 PM | Show all posts
razhar posted on 10-9-2014 03:30 PM
x..sila ikut kehendak si poster no. 110 tu..dia ada high-security clearance woooo....level 10 puny ...

You r a disgrace to our AW razhar. Why u like konspirasi teori so much? U not enuff sleep ka? Haha...lawak jer razhar, jgn marah na..
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Post time 10-9-2014 03:36 PM | Show all posts
razhar posted on 10-9-2014 03:32 PM
err shall i say Fulcrum? dive from above to 'spray'?

Kuat berangan kau ni rupanya... hehe
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Post time 10-9-2014 03:41 PM | Show all posts
nordayu posted on 10-9-2014 03:22 PM
Sumber dari : http://www.nst.com.my/node/31968

Dah malu la tu
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Post time 10-9-2014 03:46 PM | Show all posts
Pasal kesan kat bumbung ya....masa perang Vietnam, ada SAM Vietnam yang proximity fuse meledak kat sisi malah kat atas pesawat Amerika. Dan bila meletup mana ada efek letupan yang 100% sama bagi setiap ledakan?
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Post time 10-9-2014 04:24 PM | Show all posts
razhar posted on 10-9-2014 11:30 AM
x..sila ikut kehendak si poster no. 110 tu..dia ada high-security clearance woooo....level 10 puny ...

SAM or AA missiles punya fragmentation, selalunya even size, tak ada yg lebih besar atau lebih kecil, maknanya the holes created sud be at constant size. tambahan lagi, hasil tembakan missile tidak semestinya buat plane tu breakup immediately, melainkan ada shrapnel yang kena wing , tempat tangki minyak tu and created ball of fire. Tapi at 33000 feet, oksigen sangat la tipis dan kemungkinan itu pun tipis. MH 17 started to break up lepas di mula menjunam, maybe after 15 to 20 second after the missile hit it. Breaking up sebab plane tu dah dived, speed building up, beyond airframe speed limitation,the weakest parts started to separate, plus high pressure from inside the cabin.. engine still running masa tu. FDR guna electric power from the generators and the batteries, bila cut off, nothing powering it anymore, recording stopped.

apa yang disgrace nya.. buat theory pun disgrace ker, after copying apa yang aku tulis dalam posting dia ..... hahaha.

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Post time 10-9-2014 04:34 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
kelana36 posted on 10-9-2014 04:24 PM
SAM or AA missiles punya fragmentation, selalunya even size, tak ada yg lebih besar atau lebih kec ...

Kapten...in layman 's understanding...ni kerja jet fighter ker Buk....harap dpt abaikan yg gelak gelak dan perli pwrli orang lain...sbb I rasa most of forumers di sini would appreciate your view..
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Post time 10-9-2014 04:35 PM | Show all posts
kelana36 posted on 10-9-2014 04:24 PM
SAM or AA missiles punya fragmentation, selalunya even size, tak ada yg lebih besar atau lebih kec ...

Kelana sir yes sir, fyi aku tak tiru kau sekelumit pon, kebetulan masa aku taip panjang lebar kau dah pos dulu, bila aku pos tengok eh, sama la...haha..

disgrace sebab kata pilot fighter sbg makhluk yg jahat sgt sbb dah tau kata pesawat civilian kena tembak misil, lagi mau tembak dgn mesingan bagi hancus sbb nk ensure pilot semua dilenyapkan sbb tak mau pilot buat mayday atau dedahkan siapa perpetrators, utk apa? Mcm org tak leh siasat kemudian?  Kasi up la sikit standard profesional pilot airforce, they arent monsters.
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Post time 10-9-2014 04:39 PM | Show all posts
scorpionkiki posted on 10-9-2014 04:34 PM
Kapten...in layman 's understanding...ni kerja jet fighter ker Buk....harap dpt abaikan yg gelak g ...

Kikilala, fyi, aku serius dlm hal ni dari dulu lagi, tapi kalau razhar buat konspirasi, aku gelak la sbb dia kamceng ngan aku...hehe, aku harap hang paham sbb aku x gelakkan hang.
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Post time 10-9-2014 04:50 PM | Show all posts
zainmahmud posted on 10-9-2014 12:35 PM
Kelana sir yes sir, fyi aku tak tiru kau sekelumit pon, kebetulan masa aku taip panjang lebar kau  ...

bila ada satu satu important mission, mesti ada back up to ensure 100 percent mission accomplished. KEMUNGKINAN, dalam kes ini selepas missile fired, the plane still intact in one piece, jadi second wave of attack came in la.

The most interesting news came from the chairman of the Dutch safety board. He explained to the press that metal fragments (using the word 'sharpnel' would imply missile parts) were recovered from the bodies of the pilots and these fragments were now being investigated wether these are parts of the airplanes or something else. Yang ni boleh confirmed kan yg missile was used.



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Post time 10-9-2014 04:52 PM | Show all posts
kelana36 posted on 10-9-2014 04:50 PM
bila ada satu satu important mission, mesti ada back up to ensure 100 percent mission accomplished ...

dah ada bukti tapi zainmahmud masih digrace kehulu digrace kehilir
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Post time 10-9-2014 04:56 PM | Show all posts
kelana36 posted on 10-9-2014 04:50 PM
bila ada satu satu important mission, mesti ada back up to ensure 100 percent mission accomplished ...

Sbb tu la confirm ianya misil, n bkn peluru 30 mm. So semua teori konspirasi pasal fighter n 30mm cannon kena la dihentikan. Now kita tunggu langkah dutch utk dakwa pulak perpetrators ke pengadilan. Depa dok himpun bukti2 yg kukuh tu. As they said, ini bukan kerja yg senang, makan masa nak come up to the factual conclusion.
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Post time 10-9-2014 04:57 PM | Show all posts
cak! posted on 10-9-2014 04:52 PM
dah ada bukti tapi zainmahmud masih digrace kehulu digrace kehilir

Bukti misil ke bukti 30mm cannon ammo mister cak cekuq udang gamit?
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Post time 10-9-2014 05:27 PM | Show all posts
zainmahmud posted on 10-9-2014 12:57 PM
Bukti misil ke bukti 30mm cannon ammo mister cak cekuq udang gamit?

bukti missile la tu.. kalau 30 mm tembus terus kot. Missile lebih kurang handgrenade jer, effect dia pun lebih kurang, tak la sampai nak menembusi sesuatu object, sebab tu guna term fragmentation. For gun, barrel dia ada rifling, spiral grooves tu, tujuan untuk putarkan peluru tu untuk stabilize kan dia so that it can travel at high speed ,long range and penetrate the target. Senapang patah tak ada groove tu, sebab tujuan untuk sembur penabor guna untuk short range jer..

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Post time 10-9-2014 05:38 PM | Show all posts
kelana36 posted on 10-9-2014 05:27 PM
bukti missile la tu.. kalau 30 mm tembus terus kot. Missile lebih kurang handgrenade jer, effect d ...

Harap jawapan kau ni akan membuatkan depa terima kenyataan, sebab kalau aku yg ckp depa tak percaya. Hehe
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Post time 10-9-2014 05:46 PM | Show all posts
kelana36 posted on 10-9-2014 04:24 PM
SAM or AA missiles punya fragmentation, selalunya even size, tak ada yg lebih besar atau lebih kec ...



Thank you for sharing. Kite hanya ada pengalaman letupkan bom dlm lab jer, kat angkasa raya tak pernah. Tuh pun baper kali jer. Sbb lps tuh kena scout dek dajal terus tukar bidang yg selamat sikit.
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Post time 10-9-2014 05:48 PM | Show all posts
bluemenx posted on 10-9-2014 03:12 PM
bukan senang nak jadi pilot, silap2 jadi macam ni cite bawah ni...

Seorang pelancong inggeris n ...

Hahahaha...itula..pilot ni rupenye susah juga..aku tgk kokpit tu pening kpale aku..byk nye skrin...aku mmg respect la pilot2 yg dah berusia yg masih berkhidmat dgn mas..nampak keteguhan pendirian mereka menjadi pilot mas..huhuhu...sedih...
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