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Post time 1-8-2009 05:33 PM | Show all posts |Read mode
What is 'Nothing'? from the perspective of creation and existence......

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Post time 1-8-2009 08:45 PM | Show all posts
'nothing'....
by me its mean..
"u donno what im feeling"...or "its secret".
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Post time 1-8-2009 09:57 PM | Show all posts
Everything is nothing.

I don't think there is suitable words to explain nothing. I think 'noword' can explain nothing.
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Post time 2-8-2009 12:45 AM | Show all posts
in mathematic ' 0 ', infinity also has a value..

from perspective of creation and existence...erm,no such thing of 'Nothing'
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 Author| Post time 2-8-2009 10:59 AM | Show all posts
Someone said I am thinking of nothing and I argued back by virtue of thinking of 'nothing' in itself is 'something'.
The question is very subjective and it depends on which angle you are looking at. From the standpoint of physical-material (I wonder if such word exist) one may argues that the 'the room is empty'. I am flabbergasted....Physics and engineering thought me there is no such thing as void or vacuum. An empty space is filled with atoms and molecules. This is not an abstraction.
Let me put some thinking hat and define nothing in term of metaphysics…..
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Post time 2-8-2009 12:25 PM | Show all posts
Nothing is just like you and me.
Being created becoming something, going through the years - living, finally reach our destination to be back become nothing.
Does that means something to you or means nothing?
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Post time 2-8-2009 01:37 PM | Show all posts
But then, thamrong, atom are mostly empty space.
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Post time 2-8-2009 02:21 PM | Show all posts
u find the end, in the beginning.

in the beginning, there is nothing.
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Post time 2-8-2009 07:43 PM | Show all posts
76;1. Has there not been over Man a long period of Time, when he was nothing - (not even) mentioned?


23.115. "Did ye then think that We had created you in jest, and that ye would not be brought back to Us (for account)?"


56.62. And ye certainly know already the first form of creation: why then do ye not celebrate His praises?


26.78. "Who created me, and it is He Who guides me;



52.35. Were they created of nothing, or were they themselves the creators?
36. Or did they create the heavens and the earth? Nay, they have no firm belief.



40.57. Assuredly the creation of the heavens and the earth is a greater (matter) than the creation of men: Yet most men understand not.
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Post time 2-8-2009 07:44 PM | Show all posts
30.26. To Him belongs every being that is in the heavens and on earth: all are devoutly obedient to Him.
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Post time 2-8-2009 07:45 PM | Show all posts
57.3. He is the First and the Last, the Evident and the Immanent: and He has full knowledge of all things.
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Post time 2-8-2009 07:45 PM | Show all posts
36.82. Verily, when He intends a thing, His Command is, "be", and it is!
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 Author| Post time 2-8-2009 08:32 PM | Show all posts
36.82. Verily, when He intends a thing, His Command is, "be", and it is!
joe1983 Post at 2-8-2009 19:45

Book of Genesis:

א  בְּרֵאשִׁית, בָּרָא אֱלֹהִים, אֵתהַשָּׁמַיִם, וְאֵת הָאָרֶץ
Before the light there was nothing until He commanded...let's there be light....the universe created with temporal and spatial into being and human hereafter.
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Post time 2-8-2009 11:20 PM | Show all posts
14# thamrong
The orthography  in  interesting , is it in Hebrew?
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Post time 3-8-2009 02:37 AM | Show all posts
14# thamrong




2.31. And He taught Adam the nature of all things; then He placed them
before the angels, and said: "Tell me the nature of these if ye are right."
32. They said: "Glory to Thee, of knowledge We have none, save what Thou
Hast taught us: In truth it is Thou Who art perfect in knowledge and
wisdom."
33. He said: "O Adam! Tell them their natures." When he had told them,
Allah said: "Did I not tell you that I know the secrets of heaven and earth,
and I know what ye reveal and what ye conceal?"


16.78. It is He Who brought you forth from the wombs of your mothers when
ye knew nothing; and He gave you hearing and sight and intelligence and
affections: that ye may give thanks (to Allah..


96.1. Proclaim! (or read!) in the name of thy Lord and Cherisher, Who
created-
2. Created man, out of a (mere) clot of congealed blood:
3. Proclaim! And thy Lord is Most Bountiful,-
4. He Who taught (the use of) the pen,-
5. Taught man that which he knew not.


20.114. High above all is Allah, the King, the Truth! Be not in haste with the
Qur'an before its revelation to thee is completed, but say, "O my Lord!
advance me in knowledge."
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 Author| Post time 3-8-2009 06:52 AM | Show all posts
Post Last Edit by thamrong at 3-8-2009 06:56

Yes! In Hebrew the old scriptures which was handed down to Moses. Of course in our Islamic creed we believe in all the kitab-kitab which were handed down to the prophets. Of course we need to be extra careful here...some of the monotheism religion is man-made and tinted with false teachings.....I would not say any further just not to offend certain believers.
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Post time 7-8-2009 12:37 PM | Show all posts
3# Agul u acn explain nothing when u can explain something....

nothing is just something that we thought which is not of it.............
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 Author| Post time 13-8-2009 06:51 AM | Show all posts
To get to a real form of "nothing", we need to go into outer space. Imagine that you go to the farthest, emptiest corner of the universe. This is as close to nothing as we are ever going to get. What we are looking for is a section of space that contains zero atoms. No atoms at all -- it is a perfect vacuum. That is the best approximation of "nothing" that we have in our universe today.
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Post time 13-8-2009 07:52 AM | Show all posts
Everything is nothing.

I don't think there is suitable words to explain nothing. I think 'noword' can explain nothing.
Agul Post at 1-8-2009 21:57


kalo saya kata, nothing is everything, camna pulak?

i think urs is passive ler.  

this is a table. (it is nothing)

this is a chair. (it is nothing)

bila nak abis? so kita habiskan by summing up beginning and ending..nothing

Nothing is encompassing everything we can and cannot imagined with our mind.

to achieve nothing is to be in a state of nothingness

that is in order to feel 'nothing is everything' one has to have nothing, not even self i.e fana, destruction of ego, u lost urself in 'space' hihihihi

of course ler u musti still aware but depending on how strong ur psyche jugak , otherwise u jadi isim or mad person ler kut

each thing is an energy and summation of them i.e. everything, we termed as 'nothing'

so i would prefer to say no/thing is every thing rather everything is no/thing

we could not even reject the NO. Kita kene pakai istilah NO jugak. Kene terima. There is No God ! yess there is no god but Allah i.e God in english. There is no God but God.

So kalo kita tak boleh rejek istilah NO untuk ianya terpakai, ianya menjadi titik permulaan kefahaman kita. NO in literature world is equivalent to numerical Zero or Sifar in arabic, in mathematical world. Orang Arab yang menemukan dan mula gunakan angka sifar.

Mostly berpendapat sifar is NEUTRAL. Saya percaya Allah swt tidak memihak mana2 pihak..maksud saya tidak BERSEKUTU. Allah Maha Esa.

macam mana kalau saya kata nothingness = real love?

real love is unconditional. u simply do out of love bukan untuk balasan even sorga. Cinta soang hamba Allah swt. Kita boleh lihat hidup oang sebegitu full of 'NOTHINGS'. Cuba kaji sejarah idup nabi kita, Muhammad s.a.w. Kenapa dia solat sampai bengkak2 kaki walo dia soang nabi dan sudah terjamin sorga? Ni isteri dia Aishah r.a. sendiri yang tanya.

it is simply because unconditional love kepada yang Maha Esa.

nothingness, love, seme ni pada saya related to 'spiritual journey' seseoang manusia. Macam hidup soang sufi, the sufist.

to have everything is to accept nothing, to love someone is to hate someone. benci tapi rindu. marah tapi sayang. nothing but everything.

just my point of view saja. wsalam.
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 Author| Post time 13-8-2009 11:29 AM | Show all posts
Post Last Edit by thamrong at 13-8-2009 11:33

20# ajinomotonosuga
Nicely put aji...very philosophical...I can see idea flows like a swollen river in your mind. congratulation.
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