Kapal Perang Tercanggih Di Rantau Asia Tenggara..

jofizo

nampaknya Type 23 tu dah ada yg dapt..........

Royal Navy frigates operation: 350 million US dollars

The Royal Navy Type 23 frigates currently on service, 揌MS Norfolk

ZISAM

Originally posted by H猷L鰃頧 at 14-6-2005 12:00 PM:





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tak dapat bayangkan kalau kita ada semua kapal ni.mau huru-hara jiran kita.

alphawolf

Originally posted by ZISAM at 3-7-2005 17:13:


tak dapat bayangkan kalau kita ada semua kapal ni.mau huru-hara jiran kita.

Kalau gambar yang first (LA Fayette tu)...jiran kita dah ada pun......cuma tak siap lagi.

tempur

USS Stark MAy 1987 Iraqi Mirage F-1/Exocet------USS Stark Oliver H Perry frigate..









merupakan satu mangsa daripada exocet iraq....dari segi pengamatan amat sukar untuk menengelamkan kapal ini dengan sebiji exocet....apa pandangan korang ?:stp:

alphawolf

Kena tengok kena kat mana hits tu (tak kira missile atau peluru).....kalau kena tempatnya...satu dah cukup. HMS Sheffield musnah sebab satu Exocet shaja (yang warheadnya tak meletup!) tapi kebakaran akibat propellant Exocet melarat dan menghangus sebahagian besar kapal yang diperbuat drp aluminium. HMS Hood musnah, terbelah dua hanya sebab sebutir peluru 15 inci dari Bismarck mengenai magazin peluru...sama dengan USS Arizona.

Tak perlu kapal musuh tenggelam sebab serangan...atau hard kill. Soft kill pun dah cukup nak take out that particular ship...samada musnah elektronik dia atau propulsion habis....it is as good as sunk (walaupun boleh balik semula bertugas...tengok keadaan).

tempur

destroyer china







Semoga kekuatan ini dapat megimbagi kekuatan barat dan eropah dan membuktikan org asia juga mampu membangunkan industri pertahanan.
Dan semoga kekuatan ini juga tidak mendorong china untuk membuli negara negara lemah dan kecil di asia ini................

tempur

class submarines, Zwaardvis and Tijgerhaai






sapa sapa boleh cerita mengenai kapal selam ini...........kenapa negara tidak mengunakan atau repair/ naiktaraf  kapal selam ini...............

mmc

salah satu sebab yang mungkin ialah kerana sub ini dipakej bersama moray class submarine yang sehingga kini tiada satu navy pun yang beli...taiwan yang guna submarine diaorang tak berminat dengan submarine ni dan lebih memandang kepada scorpene, U212/214 etc....

satu lagi sebab:devil:yang mungkin:devil: ialah TLDm tak nak pisang berbuah dua kali bila jadi bahan eksperimen:cak:;)

tempur

jadi bolehlah kerajaan mengurai satu persatu komponen kapal selam tersebut bagi menyelidiki dan menghasil kapal selam sendiri........kita juga ada student yang mahir dalam marin, kejuruteraan, elektronik dan kepelbagaian kaum untuk menghasilkan produk ini.... sayang kalau kapal selam tersebut dijadikan tukun.............lebih baik bagi kat budak budak engineering...biar diorang yang kaji dibawa perhatian kerajaan dan badan pendidik, apa pendapat korang.................

aneep

sykt yg buat Moray (yg takde pon dlm bentuk hakiki, model CAD/CAM je seingat saya), dah bungkus rasenya

Zwaardis dibeli oleh PSC, diorang pon duit tade, nak refurb apenye, nantila bile masalah NGPV selesai, mungkin boleh refurb dua2 buat traning sub cum reserve

-aneep-

tempur

kapal kapal korvet atau FAC mesti mempunyai sistem ini untuk menyokong dan membantu daya pematauan kapal dalam mengesan musuh...selain mmerlukan ruang yang kecil dan sukar dikesan.......menjadi ianya sesuai untuk kapal 2 kita yang kecil........

Model study of Seamos.german origin

IceMallet

Menarik kalau UAV tu digunapakai dgn NGPV kita..

mmc

malas cari topik yang sesuai dan buka topik baru;) hmmm...nampaknya kita sudah improve relations dengan OZ...penglibatan kita dengan EX-Kakadu dah upgrade to full participation rather than observer status..

Multinational Maritime Exercise Begins in Northern Australia

Source: Australian DoD
Jul. 26, 2005

Maritime Commander Australia, Rear Admiral Davyd Thomas officially opened Exercise Kakadu in Darwin, Australia, today. More than 1,700 defense personnel from six nations are participating in the multinational maritime Exercise Kakadu 7, held in northern Australia from July 26 until August 12. This is the seventh exercise in a series of multinational exercises and brings together defense personnel from Australia, New Zealand, Singapore, Malaysia, Papua New Guinea, and Indonesia.

Visiting forces include Indonesian frigate KRI Fatahillah, Malaysian frigate KD Jebat, Papuan New Guinean patrol boats HMPNGS Tarangau and HMPNGS Dreger, and the Singaporean corvettes RSS Valiant and RSS Valour, along with a Singapore Air Force F-50 and a Royal New Zealand Air Force P-3K Orion maritime-patrol aircraft. Observers from the navies of India, France, the Republic of (South) Korea, and Thailand will also visit during the exercise.

mmc

ini pulak old faithful



[ Last edited by mmc on 2-8-2005 at 02:57 PM ]

alphawolf

old faithful....dah mula ke kerja ubahsuai nak dijadikan muzium?

mmc

Originally posted by alphawolf at 7-8-2005 08:03 AM:
old faithful....dah mula ke kerja ubahsuai nak dijadikan muzium?

dengar under process

mmc

a good pix of KD Mahawangsa's 57mm gun

[ Last edited by mmc on 11-8-2005 at 02:46 PM ]

Most of us are dreaming to have a such big fleet with all the elements frigates , subs , LST in fact an aircrat carrier. Just one of my point of view, with the money we can certainly buy any of this but the most important thing is, are we capable in maitaining the ships. Maintain it include equipment, spareparts and certainly a CAPABLE manpower. In fact to buy a NGPV and subs we are digging far inside the hole to find the experts. Yes we can have training but how many of should be send 2,3,10 or to be safer more than hundred but it all cost something, and during the training normally take no less than 6 month or a year. We are shortage of a good engineers and technician to maintain the existing fleet. Take more manpower, it will take years in terms of paperworks to JPA to agreed. It must come very slowly and carefully. Do not wanna to buy a good ship that only can last another 5years because the OEM for spare parts can't be traced anymore. Just say what really happen from firsthand experience. Thanks

I think the point that I wanna bring up here is experties, Are we ready to have all this things. Money can be given by the cabinet provided that we submit the proposal right and have good justification. bringup the issues of experties, just for example NGPV, we supposed to obtain the technology by spending billions.

We get the ships eventhough 95% complete but are we having the technology of shipbuilding. We dont have that, thats the thing. We can spend all the money that we have but at the end we got nothing but the ship can sail for another 5 years. Give me one our good ship that can perform if not better equally good as new after long refit. i dont think so.

To be a mordern armed forces we must be profesional, it means accountable for what we had done. We also must be supported by the profesional company for maitaining the ship. for example the French Navy. DCN is a group of company appointed by the  french government to maintain and do some
shipbuilding for the navy. And the best part is 50% of the of DCN workforce is ex-servicemen.

The things is dreaming is good but it is better if we dream something based on reality. No angan-angan mat jenin here. I hoping the change will start from the military itself, i dunno about others but certainly  i've change.

niceghost2005

Salam Sejahtera semuer,

Tks for ur information wahai perwira ku.
Teringat teman komen dari sebuah syarikat Perancis berkenaan Transfer of Technology perihal ATM.
Deme kater Syarikat Malaysia nih hanya interested nak jadi Agent n kutip komission jer. :cak:

Saper tak nak kerojer senang yek???

And one more thing, semuer nya terpulang kpd Ahli Politik yg di atas tu.
They have the last words.
Kalau dier org hanya fikir kroni n $$$, abis laaa....ATM.

WSalam
p/s masih teringat IMT Sdn Bhd :hmm: