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Kapal Perang Tercanggih Di Rantau Asia Tenggara..
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Originally posted by mmc at 27-4-2006 02:08 PM
itu citer lama....yang latest diaorang nak beli at least 3 corvette dari russia..projek 20382 tigr...
Destroyer class kot MMC...Way to go TNI-AL:geram::geram::geram: |
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Reply #281 Canaletto's post
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well report lain cakap will be 1 destroyer, 1 frigate, 1 corvette...tapi ini aku sangsi fasal dua platform pertama tu 2nd hand pun tak available...dan indon pun mungkin tak cukup beruang nak beli dari beruang...tapi korvet tu boleh rasanya... |
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Originally posted by mmc at 27-4-2006 03:01 PM
well report lain cakap will be 1 destroyer, 1 frigate, 1 corvette...tapi ini aku sangsi fasal dua platform pertama tu 2nd hand pun tak available...dan indon pun mungkin tak cukup beruang nak beli d ...
Unless Pak Beruang bersedia let go kan Sovearmny class (betul ke aje!!!) diorang yang sedia ada. Tak perlu beruang pun takpe asal boleh butter-trade. Do not forget Indonesia has alot of commodity to offer. |
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Originally posted by mmc at 27-4-2006 03:01 PM
well report lain cakap will be 1 destroyer, 1 frigate, 1 corvette...tapi ini aku sangsi fasal dua platform pertama tu 2nd hand pun tak available...dan indon pun mungkin tak cukup beruang nak beli d ...
Unless Pak Beruang bersedia let go kan Sovearmny class (betul ke aje!!!) diorang yang sedia ada. Tak perlu beruang pun takpe asal boleh butter-trade. Do not forget Indonesia has alot of commodity to offer. |
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Pada aku ler.....kiternyer F2000 class light frigate tu pun OK.
The only thing is for the g'ment to upgrade the existing AD capability to be able to give further AD umbrella to our fleet.
SEAWOLF tu is a Point Defence AD System. Kiter need AD like ASTER 30 version etc which give more kilometer......
And not to forget......with enough quantity...not 16!!!! at least 32 per ship.
In terms of weaponary & agility, aku still rasa our LAKSAMANA class corvette still the best in the region currently. |
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Originally posted by yko9798 at 27-4-2006 03:40 PM
Pada aku ler.....kiternyer F2000 class light frigate tu pun OK.
The only thing is for the g'ment to upgrade the existing AD capability to be able to give further AD umbrella to our fleet.
SEA ...
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Reply #285 yko9798's post
setuju. kurang type kapal, kurang sikit masaalah logistik.
cuma, pls improve firepower, range of protection and radar. |
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Bro.. kapal sapa pennant 208 nie? |
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err aku dah tau!!! RSS RESOLUTION.. konfius jap.. :bgrin: |
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Cantik kapal dia. bila lah kita nak ada satu camntu.. mudah nak ulang alik ke sabah/sarawak. |
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Reply #290 standupper's post
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aii..itu yang aku heran bila kau tanya tu... |
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korvet sigma indonesia dalam pembinaan...garang jugak kan
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The sigma Corvettes look impressive but like aircraft also its whats fitted inside that counts... inclusive of the crew... |
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Reply #294 mat_toro's post
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for a patrol corvette will do la Mat...as for their sailors, i wouldn't look down on them...what do you think? |
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I had read and agree that buying a bigger ship (frigate class at least) with FFBNW systems and a high-degree of automation is much better for us than buying smaller corvette class ships. Crew and weapons can be added as needed. A larger platform provides more space for weapons, larger radars, longer endurance and better seakeeping qualities for bluewater missions. The FFBNW concept is great for lowering cost without lowering quality and viability.
[ Last edited by reinloch at 11-7-2006 11:02 AM ] |
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Reply #296 reinloch's post
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but you have to ask yourself...which country in the region really operates on the basis of bluewater...have to tailor our purchases to our needs...anyway denmark has proven that the concept of FFBNW works for platforms of all sizes... |
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We do not need bluewater now, but who is to say about the future? But let's forget about this. Let's talk about firepower and sensors. It's still a valid fact that a larger hull equates to more firepower and better sensor coverage.
The key, my friend, is potential. Small hulls have none. |
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Reply #298 reinloch's post
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agreed...but do we have money to have a 5000 ton hull fitted with a main gun for 10 years in a patrol role...even the Kedah class pun orang komplen as underfitted walaupun main role is for patrol...to find the proper fit will be a difficult art and science for our naval planners.. |
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Well, of course we do. We just need to somehow keep those sharks away. |
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