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ifanonline · Post time 13-3-2013 02:05 PM

Ex-general blames military intel failure for prolonged Sulu crisis

UPDATED@ 01:51:53 PM 13-03-2013

BY CLARA CHOOI ASSISTANT NEWS EDITOR

March 13, 2013

Ghafir said the focus on local politics has diverted BSPP resources away from scouting for external threats. — File pic

PETALING JAYA, March 13 ― The “complete failure” by Malaysia’s military intelligence to pre-empt a Sulu group’s armed incursion into Sabah was to blame for the drawn out conflict in the east Malaysian state, former deputy army chief Lt-Gen (R) Datuk Abd Ghafir Abd Hamid said today.

Abd Ghafir, who is now a PKR member, blamed this on “political interference” in military intelligence operations.

He alleged that in the past decade, the Defence Staff Intelligence Division (BSPP) has been more focused on local politics than on gathering information on external threats.

“I stress here, there was a total and complete failure of intelligence. Our intelligence unit has not been functioning until now... our capability in terms of external foreign intelligence, our strength and assets have instead been used for political operations since 2000.

“When intelligence fails, we have a breach of our waters,” he told a press conference at PKR’s headquarters here.

“I stress here, there was a total and complete failure of intelligence. Meaning, our intelligence unit was not functioning so when the intruders arrived, we did not even know.

“Why this happened is because those responsible in the BSPP, our capability in terms of external foreign intelligence, our strength and assets have instead been used for political operations since 2000,” he told a press conference at PKR’s headquarters here.

The retired general said this had resulted in a failure by the unit to detect foreign threats, allowing armed intruders to sail into Malaysian territorial waters easily without being apprehended or detected.

“When intelligence fails, we have a breach of our waters... and because the waters in Sabah are very vast, if just two or three patrol vessels are there from our maritime force, I think it would be very difficult to intercept an incursion,” he said.

Abd Ghafir also claimed that indecisiveness on the part of the Malaysian government during the initial days of the incursion had also caused the conflict to prolong, resulting in the loss of Malaysian lives.

He said it took 23 days before the Malaysian forces were given the green light to launch an attack, and this allowed the Sulu invaders time to settle down and organise their troops.

Even worse, added Abd Ghafir, was that the landing of the over-200 gunmen to stake ownership over Sabah had merely been mildly described as an “armed intrusion”.

“When we use that definition, we face many limitations from the Geneva Convention. But these are armed aggressors who are here to take our land and threaten the lives of our people,” he said.

He pointed out that the Sulu gunmen, who claim to be members of the Sulu Sultanate’s “royal army”, had not landed in Sabah to “steal timber” or “steal fish”, which could have also earned them the same label of “armed intruders”.

“So we should have taken action earlier. Labelling them aggressors would have given us the right to protect our people and our territory but what happened what that 23 days went by and we only acted when our men were killed,” Abd Ghafir said.

Nine days after the Sulu gunmen landed in Kampung Tanduo, Lahad Datu, Home Minister Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Hussein said on Twitter that the group were merely “malnourished” and elderly men in sarongs and slippers.

“Fact: Most of the intruders old or malnourished. Wear sarongs/slippers..a few.. hv arms,” he had tweeted on February 18, according to a report on The Star.

The minister said this was the reason behind the restraint shown by the police towards the invaders, who have now been labelled “terrorists”.

Noting the flip-flop in the Malaysian authorities’ handling of the situation, Abd Ghafir demanded an apology from those responsible for the alleged “indecisiveness” during the initial days of the incursion.

“We must acknowledge that there was a failure. We as Malaysians should demand an apology from the government because it was due to their failures that lives of our security forces were sacrificed,” he said.

Since attacks between Malaysian forces and the gunmen started on March 1, a total of 67 people have been killed, including 56 Filipino militants, eight Malaysian policemen, two Malaysian soldiers and one teenage boy, whose nationality is still unknown.

Last edited by ifanonline on 13-3-2013 02:09 PM

AMDTurion · Post time 13-3-2013 02:10 PM

kan kan, dah agak dah. unit risikan kita tak dapat di optimakan fungsinya atas sebab yg tak sepatutnya digunakan.

itulah kalo agensi perisikan kita spt CIA mesti kitda dah dpt halang perkara nie dr berlaku awal2 kan.

kintan · Post time 13-3-2013 02:12 PM

no komen..

sbb org dlm LTAT sndiri pun kasi tau jgk

ifanonline · Post time 13-3-2013 02:13 PM

AMDTurion posted on 13-3-2013 02:10 PM
kan kan, dah agak dah. unit risikan kita tak dapat di optimakan fungsinya atas sebab yg tak sepatutn ...

PDRM dan ATM memang digunakan oleh parti pemerintah...i pity our armies/police who died in the incursion...

SulurBidar · Post time 13-3-2013 02:13 PM

TERdahulu aku ada menyebutkan, baik PDRM mahupun ATM, unit risikan kita antara yg terbaik di dunia, sekiranya jika tiada campur tangan politik.

lizaliza · Post time 13-3-2013 02:16 PM

mana forumer bekas anggota ATM yang hari tu cakap jeneral nie tarak guna? mohon bagi ulasan

slippergombak · Post time 13-3-2013 02:16 PM

Dah elok kena tukar dah....pertahanan negara sendiri pun dah tak secure... politik lagik tinggi dari pertahanan negara...

AMDTurion · Post time 13-3-2013 02:17 PM

ifanonline posted on 13-3-2013 02:13 PM
PDRM dan ATM memang digunakan oleh parti pemerintah...i pity our armies/police who died in the inc ...

diorg itu mengikut arahan......

manakala org yg meberikan arahan kpd anggota tentera nie pun menerima arahan dr pak2 munturi kita. kalo diorg nie jenis yg aggresif tahu ttg tentera mgkin diorg akan usahakan.

sepatutnya kegagalan sebegini dicatit dlm kegagalan KPI mereka nie semua.

ifanonline · Post time 13-3-2013 02:19 PM

slippergombak posted on 13-3-2013 02:16 PM
Dah elok kena tukar dah....pertahanan negara sendiri pun dah tak secure... politik lagik tinggi dari ...

hishamudin ade ckp...rakyat tarak hormat sama itu polis dan askar...itu abe hisham ckp la...buleh purcaya ka?

kecimpret · Post time 13-3-2013 02:21 PM

macai paham ka artikel dlm english ni..nnt dorang igt media barat jeles dgn m'sia plakkkkkk

ifanonline · Post time 13-3-2013 02:24 PM

tian chua kutuk polis mati katak marah...tapi salah siapa sebenarnya?

razhar · Post time 13-3-2013 02:29 PM

bila pondan molot busat jadi muntrik....jahanam negara...this time..musti ditumbang kan demi Negara..demi ATM...

Babai · Post time 13-3-2013 02:33 PM

AMDTurion posted on 13-3-2013 02:10 PM
kan kan, dah agak dah. unit risikan kita tak dapat di optimakan fungsinya atas sebab yg tak sepatutn ...

Kalo betul risikan digunakan untuk tujuan politaik, maka memang elok orang politaik yang terlibat tu mampos kena lapah dek sulu.

cak! · Post time 13-3-2013 02:33 PM

enjin jet ilang..kapal xleh selam..sesuka ati guna C4 bom org

angura · Post time 13-3-2013 02:35 PM

perhhhhh terbako macai2 nk jwp

AMDTurion · Post time 13-3-2013 02:39 PM

tulah...kena kaji balik perundangan yg menghadkan kuasa menteri nih.....

ifanonline · Post time 13-3-2013 02:39 PM

Pesara dilarang guna pangkat tentera tanpa izin

KUALA LUMPUR 22 Feb. - Kementerian Pertahanan mengingatkan adalah menjadi satu kesalahan bagi para pegawainya yang telah bersara, menggunakan gelaran pangkat tanpa mendapat keizinan daripada Majlis Angkatan Tentera (MAT).

Unit Komunikasi Korporat Kementerian Pertahanan berkata, perkara tersebut terkandung di dalam perenggan 3 Perintah Majlis Angkatan Tentera (PMAT) Bilangan 1/1975.

Menurut peraturan itu, bekas pegawai yang tidak mendapat kebenaran adalah ditegah sama sekali menggunakan sebarang gelaran pangkat selepas mereka berhenti daripada perkhidmatan.

Oleh yang demikian, mana-mana pesara yang didapati melanggari peruntukan tersebut adalah layak dikenakan tindakan sewajarnya.

"Golongan yang dibenarkan menggunakan gelaran pangkat mereka ialah Pegawai-pegawai Tauliah Tetap yang telah berkhidmat terus menerus dan bersara dengan mendapat ganjaran dan pencen serta Pegawai Tauliah Tetap yang terpaksa diberhentikan dengan mendapat pencen atau ganjaran atas sebab-sebab kesihatan yang telah disahkan oleh Lembaga Perubatan Angkatan Tentera," katanya dalam kenyataan di sini hari ini.

Menurutnya, pegawai lain yang boleh menggunakan gelaran tersebut ialah Pegawai Tauliah Tetap yang telah berkhidmat tidak kurang daripada 10 tahun dan diberhentikan atas sebab-sebab lain daripada kesihatan dengan mendapat ganjaran atau pencen.
Bekas Pegawai Tauliah Tetap yang telah berkhidmat tidak kurang daripada 10 tahun dan diberhentikan atas sebab tamat tempoh perkhidmatan juga boleh menggunakan gelaran pangkat mereka, kata kenyataan itu.

Sehubungan itu katanya, mereka yang tidak termasuk dalam kategori tersebut adalah tidak dibenarkan menggunakan sebarang gelaran pangkat selepas diberhentikan daripada perkhidmatan Angkatan Tentera Malaysia (ATM).

cai-cai melayu dan-dan aje keluar statement...