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[Tempatan] Tragedi MH17 V6 : Preliminary Report

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Post time 11-9-2014 09:43 AM | Show all posts
kelana36 posted on 10-9-2014 02:43 PM
i read the report somewhere, MH17 was asked to climb to FL350 sebab ada conflicting traffic tapi MH17 jawab unable, nak maintain FL330. Perkara ni biasa sebab kalau plane tu baru airborne few hours, memang berat lagi sebab minyak masih banyak, as the fuel burnt baru ringan sikit dan boleh climb to higher altitude.FL340 is no standard level. itu untuk penerbangan yang menghala ke Barat sahaja.

Thanks for this info, really aprreciate. I'm no pilot, but a researcher. Masa kecik2 dulu memang cita-cita nak jadi pilot...hehehe

Pasal FL340 ni yang ATC Ukraine kata crew request, tidakkah pilot MAS tahu yang FL340 tu bukan standard level dan untuk menghala ke Barat sahaja? Macam pelik pula sedangkan dalam MH17 tu ada dua pilot yang berpengalaman.

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Post time 11-9-2014 09:44 AM | Show all posts
kita menterjemahkan apa yg terjadi pada body kapal MAS...kesan missile dan sebagainya....so hasil dari post mo-term jenazah-jenazah bagaimana...adakah diantaranya terkena tembakan juga....hmmm x dpt nk dibayangkan.....andai kita berada di dalam pesawat ketika itu.....
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Post time 11-9-2014 09:59 AM | Show all posts
huhu stress baca sini sbb x paham....
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Post time 11-9-2014 10:22 AM | Show all posts
Ini gmbr graphic bdsrkan bhgian pesawat M-17 terkena missile dr bharian...



Kalo hit by SAM, patut mcm nie;





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Post time 11-9-2014 10:29 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
zainmahmud posted on 10-9-2014 04:39 PM
Kikilala, fyi, aku serius dlm hal ni dari dulu lagi, tapi kalau razhar buat konspirasi, aku gelak  ...

Jgn risau bro... I tak tuju kat you pun...keep on discussing...yg tak dak ilmu pasal weaponary kami sedang belajar dr discussion di sini
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Post time 11-9-2014 10:52 AM | Show all posts
mnm77 posted on 11-9-2014 08:22 AM
Then macamana nak justify kesan tembus masuk shrapnel dari sebelah kiri cockpit?

Jeng... jeng.. ...

Kau bayangkan kau duduk kat dlm kokpit tu on d left side ie d capts seat, bila misil burst at ur 9 or 10 or 11 oclock and tinggi sikit dari aras u. The nature of the burst yg sembuq sharapnel membulat berselerak dgn besar dari jarak 100-200 kaki. Which part yg kena sesuai dgn diagram yg yaminz bagi kat atas?
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Post time 11-9-2014 10:53 AM | Show all posts
nk bincang boleh ni dok digrace kesana kemari suruh org len dok diam mcm penddapat dia je btul
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Post time 11-9-2014 10:54 AM | Show all posts
zainmahmud posted on 11-9-2014 10:52 AM
Kau bayangkan kau duduk kat dlm kokpit tu on d left side ie d capts seat, bila misil burst at ur 9 or 10 or 11 oclock and tinggi sikit dari aras u. The nature of the burst yg sembuq sharapnel membulat berselerak dgn besar dari jarak 100-200 kaki. Which part yg kena sesuai dgn diagram yg yaminz bagi kat atas?

Yang diagram tu jika SAM meletup kat bawah. Tadi kata meletup kat atas! Yang mana satu ni?

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Post time 11-9-2014 10:57 AM | Show all posts
MsCinderella posted on 11-9-2014 09:59 AM
huhu stress baca sini sbb x paham....

Bahagian mana yang tak faham?

Adakah:
-singkatan/abbreviation?
-bahasa?

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Post time 11-9-2014 11:13 AM | Show all posts
Dari sumber Reddit

Image yg dtangkap dr satelit russia;



1) Bulatan biru -> kedudukan SAM Ukraine sbelum kejadian...
2) Bulatan merah -> tempat nahas...
3) Bulatan hijau -> kedududakan SAM Ukraine slepas kjadian...

Paling penting skali...

"Kiev released a video they alleged to show rebels moving a BUK launcher. However, at about 26 minutes of this video you can see the identification of a factory and billboard with address on it as being in the Krasnoarmiis'k (green circle) area which is not under rebel control: Kiev simply filmed themselves moving their own BUK launcher and called it a rebel one."
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Post time 11-9-2014 11:17 AM | Show all posts
Image cartoon dr US intelligence bgimana Ukraine rebel mlancarkan buk-m missile... tp bdasar bukti forensik, mungkin bbasar dr hasil nya...



bila US mau release image satelit diorg... Last edited by yaminz on 11-9-2014 11:28 AM

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Post time 11-9-2014 11:20 AM | Show all posts
Mod, boleh tunjuk gambar pilot MH17 dtpt kjadian?
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Post time 11-9-2014 11:24 AM | Show all posts
Gambar kokpit pesawat MH17 dtmpt nahas...





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Post time 11-9-2014 11:28 AM | Show all posts
lagi gambar...





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Post time 11-9-2014 11:41 AM | Show all posts
mnm77 posted on 11-9-2014 10:54 AM
Yang diagram tu jika SAM meletup kat bawah. Tadi kata meletup kat atas! Yang mana satu ni?

Jgn la bendul sgt, usevur imagination. Kan aku suruh bayangkan dia burst slightly above ur horizon belah kiri, banyak tempat boleh kena.
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Post time 11-9-2014 11:42 AM | Show all posts
cak! posted on 11-9-2014 10:53 AM
nk bincang boleh ni dok digrace kesana kemari suruh org len dok diam mcm penddapat dia je btul

Lu rasa disgrace ka? Bagus la klu mcm tu.
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Post time 11-9-2014 11:44 AM | Show all posts
yaminz posted on 11-9-2014 11:13 AM
Dari sumber Reddit

Image yg dtangkap dr satelit russia;

So now the ruskies are saying its really the buk that was the culprit, no more the su25 and the 30mm cannon?
Last edited by zainmahmud on 11-9-2014 11:48 AM

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Post time 11-9-2014 11:49 AM | Show all posts
zainmahmud posted on 11-9-2014 11:41 AM
Jgn la bendul sgt, usevur imagination. Kan aku suruh bayangkan dia burst slightly above ur horizon belah kiri, banyak tempat boleh kena.

Ko guna imagination saja nak justify BUK tu? Ingatkan guna scientific logic...

Cuba tengok balik gambar sebelah kiri cockpit tu, ada INWARD BENT ke arah dalam (bulat hijau), bermakna ada kesan tembakan/letupan dari luar dari arah bawah.

Lain kali nak buat analysis, gunalah imagination semata-mata


Last edited by mnm77 on 11-9-2014 11:54 AM

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Post time 11-9-2014 11:54 AM | Show all posts
mnm77 posted on 11-9-2014 11:49 AM
Ko guna imagination saja nak justify BUK tu? Ingatkan guna scientific logic...

Cuba tengok  ...

Boleh kau tunjuk bumbung tu dok tang mana?
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Post time 11-9-2014 11:56 AM | Show all posts
zainmahmud posted on 11-9-2014 11:54 AM
Boleh kau tunjuk bumbung tu dok tang mana?

Baca habis tak lagi preliminary report tu? Dah baca habis dulu, boleh tanya sekali lagi. Boleh betulkan saya kot-kot saya dah salah.
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