Tragedi MH17 V6 : Preliminary Report

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When the conversation stopped....


  
PUTRAJAYA: The pilot of the downed MH17 was still communicating with Dnipropetrovsk air traffic control (ATC) centre when their conversation ended abruptly at 1.19pm (eastern Ukraine local time).

Transport Minister Datuk Seri Liow Tiong Lai (pic) said the data downloaded from the cockpit voice recorder clearly showed the conversation stopped abruptly, adding that the conversation was about flight details.

“They were talking about the (flying) height. It was just a normal conversation between the ATC and pilot. There was no other sound,” he told reporters after revealing the preliminary report on the MH17 tragedy here yesterday.

Liow was replying to a question on whether the cockpit voice recorder had recorded any unusual sounds before the plane went down.

He said the preliminary report stated that the last transmission from the crew of MH17 was “ROMEO NOVEMBER DELTA, MALAYSIAN, one seven”.

“There was nothing after that, no other sound. The ATC made a radio transmission to flight MH17, which began at 1.20pm and ended five seconds later.

“The crew did not respond to the repeated transmissions,” he said.

Department of Civil Aviation (DCA) director-general Datuk Azharuddin Abdul Rahman, who was also at the press conference, said ROMEO NOVEMBER DELTA was a code for a flight waypoint.

Liow added that the Government would explain the report to the families of Malaysian crews and passengers.

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All calm in the cockpit before tragedy, says report

   
PETALING JAYA: There was nothing out of the ordinary happening in the cockpit of MH17 in the minutes before the plane broke up in mid-air while flying over eastern Ukraine on July 17.

The preliminary report on the crash said the cockpit voice recorders (CVR) of the B-777 did not register any aural alert or warning of aircraft system malfunction.

“There was also no indication of any emergency or abnormality, judging from the communications between the flight crew members until the end of the recording,” the report said.

“The replay of the CVR matched Air Traffic Control (ATC) communications with the aircraft. The recording also included crew communications, which gave no indication that there was anything abnormal during the flight.


“The recording then ended abruptly,” it said.

Information from the plane’s Flight Data Recorders (FDR) showed that the engines were running at normal cruising power and were operating normally.

It added that the team of experts investigating the crash was able to retrieve all the data despite external damage to the black boxes containing the CVR and FDR.

hyie

mohon kelana dan geng2 aeronautik guna bahasa yang mudah difahami , kalau bahasa tinggi harammm la kami nak paham

razhar

hyie posted on 10-9-2014 10:14 PM
mohon kelana dan geng2 aeronautik guna bahasa yang mudah difahami , kalau bahasa tinggi harammm la ...

tu bley rujuk kat inche zain mahmud aka mr.disgrace tu....

bluemenx

razhar posted on 10-9-2014 09:49 PM
UPS?...so instant shutdown tu pehal?

a/c main power tak direct link dgn FDR bhai.... kalo FDR zaman skang lg la advance ada UPS..
instant shutdown bukan maksudnya turbine compress failure, a/c power terputus, blades spinning malfunction, FDR malfunction
FDR still alive dgn UPS.

cuba ko bawak kereta laju2 terjun gaung..... tak instant shutdown ?


FDR tu secret machine bhai.... tu pasal kalo a/c hilang,terhempas.. ko kena cari pakar huraikan isi recorded benda alah ni
bukan ko boleh bawak balik cucuk kat usb port pc ko

razhar

bluemenx posted on 10-9-2014 11:04 PM
a/c main power tak direct link dgn FDR bhai.... kalo FDR zaman skang lg la advance ada UPS..
ins ...

so apa yang sebab kan instant shutdown kat MH17 tu? ce ckp...

razhar

bluemenx posted on 10-9-2014 11:04 PM
a/c main power tak direct link dgn FDR bhai.... kalo FDR zaman skang lg la advance ada UPS..
ins ...

wa tahu la benda tu bkn bley cucuk kat PC...cuma wa curious kenapa FDR sudden demise tu...ce ckp sikit.... kalu dia pakai UPS...maka masih ada lagi data yang masuk dari input2 lain..kan..kan...

razhar

Ramalan wa...punca sebenar crash ni X akan di declare kerana banyak pihak terlibat...kan..kan.. cuma bley kompon..kena shot down....either by rocket,missile or cannon fire...

Banyak forum2 luar lebey tertumpu ke cannon fire towards cockpit followed by rocket - unguided one..

bluemenx

kelana36

bluemenx posted on 10-9-2014 05:04 PM
FDR .. takde switch2,  tapi ada circuit power yg boleh cut a/c power salur ke FDR.

tp ingat.. FDR ...

FDR or blackbox punya own battery tu untuk ping purposes jer, bukan untuk recording.
It still need hot line connection dari cockpit untuk record, samada AC power which will be converted to DC, atau direct dari plane battery power. Tapi kalau electrical circuit dia jahanam, terputus juga , sebab ni kot recording terputus abruptly.. atau tail section yang menempatkan FDR ni separated from the main plane body instantly.

FDR ni mula merakam sebaik sahaja enjin pertama dihidup kan dan akan berhenti merakam bila enjin yang terakhir dimatikan..tetapi brek kenalah di aktifkan. kalau dua dua enjin mati, brek tak aktif, FDR itu akan beranggapan yang pesawat itu masih lagi diudara dan akan terus merakam sehingga battery pesawat habis..  macamana BM saya? phewww...

bluemenx

su25 fighter near mh17.

tapibukanaku

hyie posted on 10-9-2014 10:14 PM
mohon kelana dan geng2 aeronautik guna bahasa yang mudah difahami , kalau bahasa tinggi harammm la ...

setuju sgt lah ni... tak paham pong. tapi tetap nak tau.

pls bro @kelana36 dan geng2 guna lah bahasa yg simple dan mudah utk rakyat marhaen memahami.

bluemenx

korang tgk bilik cari bukti sapa tembak kapal terbang
korang betekak macam2 teori

abangbikerz

Teori aku mh17 downing ialah for some political gain. Mas dipilih sebab malaysia negara yg lemah. Xleh wat pape pn walaupn mas ditembak jatuh. Best tak teori aku

razhar

bluemenx posted on 10-9-2014 11:33 PM

slow2 jalan aaaa....

razhar

kelana36 posted on 10-9-2014 11:35 PM
FDR or blackbox punya own battery tu untuk ping purposes jer, bukan untuk recording.
It still ne ...

BM anda ada kurang baik....

so apa conclusion kes FDR ni? bila report kata sudden demise punya FDR..apa tuan pikir?

razhar

kelana36 posted on 10-9-2014 11:35 PM
FDR or blackbox punya own battery tu untuk ping purposes jer, bukan untuk recording.
It still ne ...

report juga kata FDR stop dulu kan...dimasa yang sama..cockpit section suda pi bawah sana kan..kan.....kira serentak tak?..mengapa bley jadi gitu?

razhar

abangbikerz posted on 10-9-2014 11:44 PM
Teori aku mh17 downing ialah for some political gain. Mas dipilih sebab malaysia negara yg lemah. Xl ...

apa kita mao buat? declare perang?

bluemenx

KUALA LUMPUR: Kementerian Pertahanan Russia hari ini mendedahkan rakaman video yang menunjukkan pesawat pejuang Sukhoi SU-25 milik tentera Ukraine berada dalam lingkungan 10 kilometer daripada pesawat Malaysia Airlines (MAS) Penerbangan MH17 pada Jumaat lalu.

Rakaman video itu ditayangkan kepada media dalam satu sidang akhbar di Kedutaan Russia di sini, sebentar tadi.
Duta Russia ke Malaysia, Lyudmila Vorobyeva berkata, penemuan bukti baru itu membuktikan bahawa negaranya tidak terbabit secara langsung dalam insiden berkenaan.

“Bukti baharu ini perlu dipandang serius oleh pasukan penyiasat antarabangsa kerana kemunculan pesawat pejuang berkenaan menimbulkan pelbagai tanda tanya.

“Kami juga berharap, dengan adanya bukti ini, semua pihak diharap dapat berhenti menunding jari menuduh Russia bertanggungjawab terhadap bencana ini,” katanya.

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