Tak reti cakap melayu, tapi mengaku malaysian? Puiii...!

Acong

cina tak reti cakap melayu, tapi mengaku malaysian? wtf?

sejak bila rakyat myanmar gunakan bahasa URDU?



Who are the Rohingya?
By Khaled Ahmed
The writer is Director South Asian Media School, Lahore
khaled.ahmed@tribune.com.pk
The writer is Director South Asian Media School, Lahore khaled.ahmed@tribune.com.pk

Burma — or Myanmar — is killing its Muslims, with the state and the Buddhist majority involved together in this brutal pastime. The Muslim minority is not accepted as Burmese citizens. They are a people without a state unless the world persuades the Burmese government to stop the genocide.

The Muslims of Burma call themselves the Rohingya. They are 800,000 strong. Burma has a population of 48 million. Because Muslims were not accepted, they kept migrating with not much success. There are 300,000 of them in Bangladesh and 24,000 in Malaysia. The world is resisting Burma’s request to take charge of them. Their origins are uncertain mainly because of the varying versions of their genesis.

History speaks of them as living in the Arakan region of Burma, today called Rakhine. After a recent massacre, when a television channel interviewed the victims, they spoke in Urdu. But their speech is actually supposed to be another Indo-European language linguistically related to the Chittagongian language spoken in the southernmost part of Bangladesh bordering Burma.

Next door, Bangladesh has always been reluctant to absorb the Rohingyas. The British Raj exported a lot of Muslims to Burma and even exiled the last Mughal king there. The capital of Rangoon figured in the Urdu songs produced by the Mumbai film industry. Lahore’s industry of Urdu literary journals also flourished on the basis of the Muslim reading public in Burma.

One etymological version is that the word Rohingya is the Arabic word ‘rahm’ meaning ‘mercy’, which is clearly far-fetched as an attempt to dub the Burmese Muslims as Arabs settled in Burma since the 8th century CE. The tale goes like this: an Arab ship was wrecked off the Burmese coast and the surviving Arabs asked for the ‘rahm’ (mercy) of the local king.

There is another story tracing the etymology to Pakistan or Afghanistan. The ‘roh’ in Rohingya means ‘mountain’ in Sanskrit and the region of mountains in northwest India was known as Roh. The Rohila Pathans of Rohelkhand in India also trace their origin to this region. But the word ‘rohingya’ appeared only recently, in the 1950s. So, we don’t know exactly where the origin of the Burmese Muslims can be located.

The word ‘rohdas’ in Sanskrit means mountain. Is the name of a Pakistani place called Rohtas related, perhaps?

The sense of mountain or hill is derived from the sense of mounting, rising and growing. Indian music has a word for the rising note: ‘arohi’. The literal meaning of ‘aroha’ is ‘to mount’. Hindi also adds the word for horse (‘asva’) to mean ‘rider’. Thus, ‘arohi’ becomes ‘asvaroha’, meaning someone mounted on a horse. In Persian, we have the word ‘savar’ for ‘horse-rider’, also written ‘asvar’ to point to ‘asva’ the horse in it. Music notes ascend (arohi) and descend (avarohi).

I can’t resist commenting on Rohi, the desert that inspires our greatest Seraiki poet Khwaja Ghulam Farid. My dictionary says that here ‘roh’ means ‘seed’ because it helps in making anything grow (ascend). My hunch is that Rohi was seen by its people as the origin of life. I could be wrong.

If the Rohingya are mountain or hill-dwelling people, it is more likely that they moved from the hills of Chittagong in Bangladesh to Burma because they spoke a language that did not fit into the language-based nationalism of that state.

It is possible that the military junta changed the country’s name from Burma to Myanmar to remove any association with India. Burma sounded too much like a Hindi word. It was, in fact, derived from the name of the majority Bamar ethnic group. Myanmar is considered to be the literary form of their name.

Published in The Express Tribune, August 1st, 2012.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/415447/who-are-the-rohingya/

MatDeghem

There is another story tracing the etymology to Pakistan or Afghanistan. The ‘roh’ in Rohingya means ‘mountain’ in Sanskrit and the region of mountains in northwest India was known as Roh. The Rohila Pathans of Rohelkhand in India also trace their origin to this region. But the word ‘rohingya’ appeared only recently, in the 1950s. So, we don’t know exactly where the origin of the Burmese Muslims can be located.





ini parents nora danish. Kata acik2 diehard fan nora apak dia arab pakistan dari burma. Emak nya burma asli.
ada kah nora keturunan rohingya??



@pasuoreng

Acong

MatDeghem replied at 22-5-2015 02:32 AM
There is another story tracing the etymology to Pakistan or Afghanistan. The ‘roh’ in Rohingya mea ...

apasal cerah je? jatuh dalam tepung gomak?  

Acong

siapa yg tak reti cakap bahasa kebangsaan, patut dilucutkan kerakyatan.....

MatDeghem

Acong replied at 22-5-2015 02:37 AM
apasal cerah je? jatuh dalam tepung gomak?

The British Raj exported a lot of Muslims to Burma and even exiled the last Mughal king there

Mungkin kerana dia keturunan Mughal King  

hanakikan

Aku ada jumpa nepal kat kl. Aku ingatkan dia melayu sebab dia punya bahasa melayu dia tiptop. Guna bahasa lasar lah. Sekali dia ckp dia dr nepal dah 2 thn duk malaysia. Cina2 pelahap babi kat sini dah berpuluh tahun pun x pandai ckp melayu. Malu je dgn nepalese

sekngucing

orang rohingya dulu berpewrang dgn kerajaan hindu purba di dari india
mereka dah ada di pergunungan arakn sejak sebelum masehi lg

pyropura

@Acong
..Zeti Aziz tu mana reti cakap mulayu, bukan malaysians kah dia?

ellejo

zaman aku universiti dulu budak yaman pandai btul cakap bm. cakap2 pun bm kecuali dgn set2 diorang.
exchange student Germany pun satu sem je belajo BM. tapi bahasa Baku skema tu la.

kenapa sesetengah Malaysian tidak tau ckp BM? pemalas atau bodoh?

pyropura

@ellejo
Tak tau cakap mulayu seperti tan sri Zeti aziz?

dani-rox

Mari belajar sejarah

HISTORY, ISSUES, AND TRUTH in ARAKAN/RAKHINE STATE, WESTERN BURMA

by Rick Heizman

Rakhine, (also spelt Rakhaing), and Arakan basically mean the same thing, and refer to the culture,

language, ethnicity, and continuously populated homeland of the Buddhist people of the area.

Rohingya is a new name for the more recent Muslim immigrants who were formerly called Bengali

Muslims, or Chittagong Muslims (which indicate their roots).

Rakhine State of Burma borders Bangladesh. The capital of Rakhine State is Sittwe (old name Akyab).

The largest historical archeological site is Mrauk U, the last great Rakhine capital (1430-1784) at it's

time one of the richest cities in Asia.

Bangladesh is a new country (1971), originally part of various ancient 'Indian' Hindu or Buddhist

kingdoms, later Muslim conquests brought Islam, then it became part of the British Indian Empire,

gained independence in 1947 as East Pakistan (as one country linked with West Pakistan 1000 miles

away) and became independent as Bangladesh in 1971.

__________________________________________________________________________

The Rakhine area has a history of kings and kingdoms dating back over 2000

years. It has had a deeply Buddhist tradition from the early centuries AD. The

second largest ruined city and temple site in Burma - Mrauk U - is in Rakhine

State, and is the spiritual center of the Rakhine identity.

Now I'll skip up to the British days, and how the British, unknowingly, helped

create the present problems.

The British, in Burma, Malaysia, Singapore, and other places, brought in Indian

and/or Chinese men to be the plantation or other business managers. The

British brought many Muslim Indians from Bengal to Rakhine because Bengal

was close and convenient. These managers - instead of hiring local Rakhine

people to work - sent for thousands of their fellow muslim Bengalis to come

and work. Most of these Bengalis were influenced by the islamic Faraidi

movement in Bengal at that time (late 1800s) which was based on the ideology

of the Wahhabis of Arabia (this is before the Saudi tribe took over and named

Arabia after themselves). The Bengalis were instructed to build their own -

muslim only - villages near the water resources (so that they could later control

the water, and deny it to the Buddhist). And, they were told to prepare to wage

a holy war (jihad) when their leaders felt they were ready and strong enough.

In the Maungdaw Township alone, around 1910, only 15 muslim managers

brought in thousands of Bengali workers - starting a huge population shift -

and began the campaign against the Buddhist.

In 1939 The British established a Commission of Inquiry to investigate the rapid

increase of Bengali Muslims in Arakan from roughly 30,000 in 1825 to 220,000

in 1930. That Commission concluded that there would be violence in the very

near future if the relentless Bengali Muslim movement across the border wasn't

stopped or at least restricted.

And the Commission was right.


THE INVENTION OF THE 'ROHINGYA' and THE MANIPULATION OF HISTORY AND FACTS



During the 1950's, the term 'Rohingya' was invented, and it started to spread


around, slowly becoming a replacement word for Bengali-Muslim, or


Chittagong-Muslim, but only much later it became the common name.


In 1960 the Mujahid insurgency was finally defeated by General Ne Win. Then

the Muslim leadership realized that they needed a new story about the Muslims

in Arakan - and they embraced a new identity - and they now called themselves

'Rohingya'.


This new word helped to make it much easier to manipulate media and opinion.


The terms Bengali-Muslim and Chittagong-Muslim obviously indicate that they


came from outside Burma, and that they had roots in, Bengal or Chittagong.


The term Rohingya carries no similar meaning, making it much easier to spread


the 'new history' which now says that the Rohingya actually have been


inhabitants of this land for a long long time.





WHY BANGLADESH HATES THE ROHINGYA, AND WILL NOT HELP THEM



When India was granted independence in 1948, the two Muslim areas - on the

west side and the east side of India- but not joined - were made into the

Islamic country of Pakistan. (The Muslims demanded their own country).

Later, tensions and issues between them blew up into a bloody war and the

eastern part fought to become independent from the dominant western part.

In late 1971 the eastern part became the new country of Bangladesh.

The Muslims in Arakan actually - and strangely - supported the far western

part (Pakistan), and not the neighboring Bangladesh part, perhaps because they

favored the more extreme Islam of Pakistan.

After Bangladesh became independent the Bangladeshis were furious at the


Chittagong or Bengali-Muslims living in Burma, and disowned them, and


treated them as traitors, and even still, now, Bangladesh will not forgive or


forget that, and will not accept them. They ARE the same people - Bengali or


Chittagong-Muslims - from the same area, and speak the same language.


There is no tribal or ethnic diference. But if your parents or grandparents


supported Pakistan at that time you are not accepted. Many Rohingya manage


to sneak into Bangladesh, and are in terrible refugee camps, where recently,


Bangladesh has banned foreign aid organizations from helping the refugees!


So, the Muslims of Arakan needed an identity of their own -


and a new word - the 'Rohingya' was invented.

dani-rox

AL QAEDA AND TALIBAN TRAINING, EXPLOSIVES AND HEAVY WEAPONS COURSES IN AFGHANISTAN AND LIBYA

There have been numerous Rohingya captured in Afghanistan in battle, or at

terrorist training camps. Intelligence services of several countries have reported

such items as:

90 members of the Arakan Rohingya National Organization (ARNO) were

selected to attend a guerrilla warfare course, explosives course, and

heavy-weapons courses held in Libya and Afghanistan in August 2001.


5 members of ARNO attended a high-ranking ofcers' course with Al Qaeda

representatives in May 2000. They discussed military afairs, weaponry, and

getting financial help from Osama bin Laden.



Numerous contacts and connections and assistance from Islamic jihad groups

in southern Thailand, southern Philippines, Indonesia, Malaysia, Pakistan,

Bangladesh and others.


MANIPULATION OF MEDIA TO CREATE THE MYTH OF THE POOR GENTLE PEACEFUL MISUNDERSTOOD VICTIMS THAT EVERYBODY TREATS BADLY
By now, anybody who has investigated the 'stories' and 'photos' of recent

atrocities against the Rohingya has seen and heard terrible things - BUT - most

people, now, are seeing that it is all a game of deception, lies, and agenda. The

photos, that supposedly show dead bodies of Rohingya are actually photos

taken in Indonesia after the huge earthquake-caused tsunami, and even more

sickening than that - there are gruesome photos of piles of bodies said to be

Rohingya, BUT ACTUALLY they are CHRISTIAN Nigerians who were killed and

burned recently by Nigerian MUSLIMS! Do your own google searches and you

will see the wicked deception being used, around the world, and in many

languages. (search with the words: Burma, jihad, Myanmar, genocide, Rohingya,

fake photos, media manipulation, etc).




Banyak lg info di SINI

- bangsa teraniaya perlu ke letak gambar2 tipu. dari simpati jadi menyampah pula. ai pernah bergenang air mata melihat thread gambar kekonon rohingya kena bakar dan disembelih. Chooiiii. padahal hoax.

akik

MatDeghem replied at 22-5-2015 02:32 AM
There is another story tracing the etymology to Pakistan or Afghanistan. The ‘roh’ in Rohingya mea ...

tapi aku tengok fizikal bapak fasha yng lebih kepada org rohingya

missbunga91

panjangnya artikel....

missbunga91

apa la masalahnya dgn asal keturunan nora tu...
semua manusia kat dunia ni semuanya asal dari keturunan nabi adam dgn hawa jugak yg asalnya dari syurga...

mereka diturunkan kebumi dari syurga...
hawa jatuh di kawasan jeddah yg jaraknya lebih kurang 15km dari mekkah
manakala nabi adam entah la jatuh di mana aku pun tak tahu tapi lebih kurang di sekitar kawasan2 tu jugak...

kemudian meraka berdua bertemu semula di mekkah...
apa tah nama tempat pertemuan mereka berdua tu aku pun tak ingat sangat namanya... tapi ada tanda org arab buat kat situ...

gaara_X

dah berbangkit bagai plak bab keturunan.....hadoi...

Esmiria

hanakikan replied at 22-5-2015 04:41 AM
Aku ada jumpa nepal kat kl. Aku ingatkan dia melayu sebab dia punya bahasa melayu dia tiptop. Guna b ...

cinakn rasis.beselah.guna bhsa diorang je.well,tak seme cinala..ada yg pandai ckp yg aku kenal

Decaffeinated

apakah akan timbul negara baru Rohingyasia....?...

Lorra2411

yang bangsa Cina di Malaysia pun tak reti cakap BM. malu pulak Nepal yang keje kat Giant ni sebab cakap Melayu fluent je. walhal baru 3 tahun duk sini.

amira_safia

hanakikan replied at 22-5-2015 04:41 AM
Aku ada jumpa nepal kat kl. Aku ingatkan dia melayu sebab dia punya bahasa melayu dia tiptop. Guna b ...

bukan nepal je, bangla, myanmar duduk dalam 2 tahun kat Malaysia dah pandai cakap bahasa melayu  .... cina2 bukit kat Malaysia memang patut malu dengan dorang ni  ... lahir kat Malaysia tapi cakap bahasa Melayu macam nepal baru sampai kat Malaysia  ....