Animals performs homosexuality. why God allowed this??

Debmey

Originally posted by Obersliutenant at 17-11-2006 12:04 AM
for the dolphins to behave that way , there coud be  a number of logical explainations
1. Reproductive structures - different reproductive structures for different animals , have different functions and different purposes

No different from humans, same functions, same functions, same mammal.

2. Testorone levels - Male testerone levels in male dolphins can be the reason why male dolphins engage in homosexual behavior. Excessive testerone levels  ( a hormone) that affects the male sexual structure coud be the reason that drives its instinct to engage in homosexual behaviour.

Testerone levels are never an explanation for himosexual behaviors sir.
Besides, why would allah want to create excessive testerone levels by default?

3. Lack of females:  Excessive testerone boosted males in a team of dolphins with more males than females, simple explaination the dolphin may have been sexually frustrated with this condition untill it gets too stressful that it engage in unnatural sexual behaviour. Do you have a male dog Debmey? Grow it from a pup and once it reaches adolescence , lock him in a room and deprive it of any other dogs from meeting him , your male dog will definitely go crazy and vicious and thus will engage in unnattural sexual behaviours to calm him . Put another male dog in and by chance he woud almost immediately try to mate it . Animals dont have a thinking brain because they are not made that way , they are driven by instinct.  Does that answer your question ?

There is no evidence to suggest that the male female ratio among dolphins are unbalanced. Homosexual behaviors happen even when there are females around.

If after this youre still asking the same question , than thats a clear indicator that your intention to ask is not sincerelybecause you want to know , but to degrade and to hummiliate Muslims in general , this question is answered Debmey , we are done here

I will still be asking the same question because you came up with nothing but nosensical excuses.

yourre just ignorant you know that ? if obersliutenant has given his explaination ? what is yours then ? you cant just say what you want without your own logical procedures and system of rationale ? you dont even have an argument .  YOU NEVER gave ANY evidence in the first place havent you realised that already ?

Testorene levels are a basic fact debmey ,youre just in denial ... and denial wthout explaination is sheer stupidity , try what Obers ask you to do , keep a pet male dog ...

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Truth.8

Originally posted by zonan at 16-11-2006 09:28 PM

Yeah i wonder why your god of bible allow such thing?

i have already explained but allah allowed homo animals. why?

Truth.8

Originally posted by Debmey at 16-11-2006 11:40 PM
Since Muslims do not believe in the fallen nature of the world, then they also believe that allah created homo dolphins.
So the question now is, why did allah invent homo dolphin while banning it ...

muslims do not believed in fallen nature of the world, so it hard for them to explained why allah create homo dolphin. muslims believed allah create bad nature in begining.

Truth.8

Originally posted by karengkang at 16-11-2006 08:59 PM
untuk makluman ko jugak...
binatang tak pernah mempersoalkan pada Tuhan yg menjadikan dia kenapa begitu dan kenapa begini...
kenapa aku kena makan daging...kenapa kambing makan rumput...
atau ka ...

the most diffcult question that muslims unable to furnished is:

why allah made homo animals? if homo is forbidden why homo animals??

did not i wrote that in begining everything was created GOOD include animals. than sins enter the earth and made humans separate from  God.  The earth filled with more and more sin and become more and more abnormal sexual among animals, fierce animals  plus humans.

yet , muslims not able to understand God nature in begining but blame allah create bad nature in begining.

maybe this will educate u to understand abt sin

Laxamana.

Originally posted by Debmey at 9-11-2006 10:21 PM
According to muslims, the dolphins are obeying Allah.

You endorsed homosexuality among men by making example of animals? You are an animal? What does Christians says about this? Don't assume on Islam for things that you do not know. Tell us about Christianity in this issue, you probably know better... if you are not lowering yourself as another animal.

i212

T8.. why dont you list down verse in bible that explained why God create Homo animal.

karengkang

Originally posted by Truth.8 at 17-11-2006 01:45 AM


i have already explained but allah allowed homo animals. why?

explained ???
where ??? :stp:

karengkang

Originally posted by Truth.8 at 17-11-2006 01:48 AM




the most diffcult question that muslims unable to furnished is:

why allah made homo animals? if homo is forbidden why homo animals??

did not i wrote that in begining everything was cr ...

this is a typical type of writing when u are stucked

stucked --> keep on copy pasting the same sh1t :lol

what a lame tactics :tq:

than sins enter the earth and made humans separate from  God

sins ??
what sins ??
please elaborate :bgrin:

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karengkang

Originally posted by i212 at 17-11-2006 09:17 AM
T8.. why dont you list down verse in bible that explained why God create Homo animal.

yeah :setuju:

make it simple...
jangan cakap belit2 macam ular jugak lar tambiiii :bgrin:

Originally posted by karengkang at 17-11-2006 12:41 PM

make it simple...
jangan cakap belit2 macam ular jugak lar tambiiii :bgrin:

Aku rasa aku tau apa yang si T8 nak sampaikan tapi disebabkan kebangangan dia, semua orang jadi tak paham.

Mungkin lah, sebab aku pun mana reti percakapan orang bangang ni, dia nak kata Tuhan ciptakan semua benda ni sinless, tapi bila depa ni masuk bumi, jadi tak sinless dah tu sebab binatang manusia semua jadi homo.

Kalau itu lah yang dia maksudkan, Adam & Eve tu bukan ke makan buah epal (vegie)  terus kena buang dari Syurga?  Kah kah kah

Debmey

Originally posted by Laxamana. at 17-11-2006 08:48 AM


You endorsed homosexuality among men by making example of animals? You are an animal? What does Christians says about this? Don't assume on Islam for things that you do not know. Tell us about  ...

simple, God says this is a fallen world, not the same one as He created.
But you Muslims say that what the world is is exactly what allah created. In other words, your allah is endorsing homosexuality according to your own logic. How do you explain that?

Truth.8

Originally posted by i212 at 17-11-2006 09:17 AM
T8.. why dont you list down verse in bible that explained why God create Homo animal.

did u read what i wrote from begining. do u know what it mean in begining everything was good and later sin enter the earth?

do u know from begining God urged humans to take only green plants?

Truth.8

Originally posted by samerosie at 17-11-2006 12:53 PM


Aku rasa aku tau apa yang si T8 nak sampaikan tapi disebabkan kebangangan dia, semua orang jadi tak paham.

Mungkin lah, sebab aku pun mana reti percakapan orang bangang ni, dia nak kata Tuhan ciptakan semua benda ni sinless, tapi bila depa ni masuk bumi, jadi tak sinless dah tu sebab binatang manusia semua jadi homo.

Kalau itu lah yang dia maksudkan, Adam & Eve tu bukan ke makan buah epal (vegie)  terus kena buang dari Syurga?  Kah kah kah

wired animals and abnormal animals was created after human fallen. if anyone want to get close to God in deep, than one can go strick vegetarian. maybe  takes  small portion of meat like fish or chicken.....slowly we can change that habit of eating meat to  green plants.

yet allah  create bad nature in begining.

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karengkang

Originally posted by Debmey at 17-11-2006 01:16 PM


simple, God says this is a fallen world, not the same one as He created.
But you Muslims say that what the world is is exactly what allah created. In other words, your allah is endorsing homos ...

from your level of understanding.. :bgrin:
i know, u might have a problem to understand what Laxamana were saying...
i think his point are..

people like Truth.8 and u blaming God (creator of all) for what human did...

yeah...
this blame game is the favourite thing in your religion..
- blaming God because create homo animal
- blaming Muslims and Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) for event that happened 1400+ years ago..
- blaming this
- blaming that
- blaming everything but not yourself

Truth.8

Originally posted by karengkang at 17-11-2006 09:09 PM

people like Truth.8 and u blaming God (creator of all) for what human did...

than again, u failed to understand why  God says in begining God create everything GOOD. meaning prefect . no homo animals, no evil taught, no evil speech and etc until they ate the forbidden fruits. when the earth filled with more and more sins, than so many strange animals was created. when such evil animals was created, those evil animals performs abnormal sex when humans enjoy eating those meats and behave like them.

solution: goes back to God plan in begining "eat vegetarian" to be  like real human than barbarians. right now human are not human they half human and half animal.

too bad muslims dont understand this and believed that allah create bad nature in begining.

how am  i going accept islam if they talk crap view like this?

WLIO

Originally posted by karengkang at 17-11-2006 12:41 PM


yeah :setuju:

make it simple...
jangan cakap belit2 macam ular jugak lar tambiiii :bgrin:

YEAH ! :setuju::setuju:

Truth.8

Originally posted by WLIO at 18-11-2006 12:00 PM



YEAH ! :setuju::setuju:

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siapa yg belit ular? semua nabi2 sebelum mo tidak pernah menunaikan haji di mecca . tepuk dada tanyalah selerah

WLIO

Originally posted by Truth.8 at 18-11-2006 12:02 PM



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siapa yg belit ular? semua nabi2 sebelum mo tidak pernah menunaikan haji di mecca ...

YEAH !

karengkang

Originally posted by Truth.8 at 18-11-2006 11:28 AM



than again, u failed to understand why  God says in begining God create everything GOOD. meaning prefect . no homo animals, no evil taught, no evil speech and etc until they ate the forbidden fruit...

is this one the "blame game" tactic they teach u ? :lol
example:

1- all human (up until today) are sins because Adam and Eve eat the forbidden fruit..
2- people are killing each other because long long  time ago son of Adam killed his own brother (Qabil and Habil)

dUh..

forbidden fruit ? :stp:
why must God forbid them to eat the fruit ?
why not meat ? or fish ?
why fruit ???
erkk... i thought u said God endorse man to eat green plant (including fruits)

as far as i know...
atom only discovered...erkk let say 100 years ago...
same goes to this matter...
from recent research , man knew that some species of dolphin are homosexual...
let say 10 years ...

so,how do u know that god never create homo animal ?
proof it please :nerd:

and i would like to ask u once more

so what is the purpose when God created fish or birds or cattle or whatever animal to  be dominion/rules by human ? Gen 1:26

dominion/rules in what sense ?
did the bible stated about it ?

:bgrin:

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