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Isu Lynas-Loji Lynas sedia beroperasi dalam tempoh tiga minggu- MCA Bantah Kilan
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kat China, dah banyak org kena kanser akibat bahan buangan radioactive Rare Earth....
naper gomen masih bg Lynas bina kilang Rare earth Terbesar Dunia????? |
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kat China, dah banyak org kena kanser akibat bahan buangan radioactive Rare Earth....
naper gomen ...
Boon_head Post at 26-2-2012 14:15 
china banyak pollution bukan pasal rare earth ajer..cuba buat kajian...selepas dan sebelum kilang ni disana....paling penting kita jgn jadi cam diorang...kesedaran penting...kesedaran ni bukan laa menghalang loji ni tapi dengan memantau dengan lebih baik... |
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Reply 44# honam
dgr kata depa ni kbyakan d upah btol ker? |
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china banyak pollution bukan pasal rare earth ajer..cuba buat kajian...selepas dan sebelum ...
abgboroi Post at 26-2-2012 14:20
kesedaran ok...
tp bahan buangan toxic sila bawak balik Ostolia....ada brani? |
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kesedaran ok...
tp bahan buangan toxic sila bawak balik Ostolia....ada brani?
Boon_head Post at 26-2-2012 14:25
di australia pun ada bahan ni....apa masalahnya...kalau msia nak berkerjasama dengan lynas...diorang tentu laa x cukup tapak tangan nyiru kami tadahkan ehe....lagipun pendapatan dari bahan ni agak besar juga....menambahkan lagi ekonomi negara kita... |
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kena dekat ngan air....gebeng tu paling sesuai...kalau di putrajaya...nak melabuh kat mana ...
abgboroi Post at 26-2-2012 14:07
pesal tak buat jer kat Ostolia nuh..bina sebelah dgn lombong dia...lagi le seswai...
motip gigih ngangkut naik tongkang bagai beribu2 kilometer htr tuk proses ke malaysia?? |
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pesal tak buat jer kat Ostolia nuh..bina sebelah dgn lombong dia...lagi le seswai...
motip gigi ...
peachRose Post at 26-2-2012 14:32
msia yang buka peluang pada diorang....kalau x silap lynas tak perlu bayar cukai selama 12 tahun di msia...dan beberapa kelebihan lain....pendapatan msia dari lynas juga berbillion.... |
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di australia pun ada bahan ni....apa masalahnya...kalau msia nak berkerjasama dengan lyna ...
abgboroi Post at 26-2-2012 14:29
nih pasal environment....
Lynas untung berbillion hengget......pastuh toxic tertinggal kat msia???gomen bg 10 tahun TAX FREE???
Bernas ke cara nih memelihara alam sekitar??ko pikiq la.... |
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msia yang buka peluang pada diorang....kalau x silap lynas tak perlu bayar cukai selama 12 tahun ...
abgboroi Post at 26-2-2012 14:33
camner gomen untung berbillion kalo bg TAX FREE 12 tahun??sila bg pencerahan sikit, i need statistic to Prove........ |
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Post Last Edit by abgboroi at 26-2-2012 15:13
nih pasal environment....
Lynas untung berbillion hengget......pastuh toxic tertinggal kat ms ...
Boon_head Post at 26-2-2012 14:35
aku x nak fikir masalah politik yang kurang stabil di msia ni...tapi cuba baca ni...
The Truth About Lynas In Kuantan
By: Melinda Mazhar
Lynas, a simple, honest chemical processing plant in Kuantan, is somehow dragged into politics by irresponsible politicians who are out of genuine issues to fight for. Now, these politicians disguise themselves as environmental champion, plan to hold a protest to stop Lynas from operating, claiming that the chemical processing is hazardous to human and the environment.
However, they are not at all interested in going by the law and apply for a court injunction to legally and seriously stop the operation which is evident that this protest is nothing but a political stunt.
Tireless efforts are made by the Lynas team to explain, but these desperados refuse to listen or even visit the plant. As such, there seems to be no ending to this Lynas issue.
Believe it or not, the public are not all aware of this whole thing about Lynas controversies. Now, here’s what it’s all about:
FACTS AND FALLACIES OF LYNAS PART 1
Allegations by Oppositions:
Facts:
Lynas takes advantage of weaknesses in Malaysian law by proposing China standard.
Malaysia’s law on radiological safety and health is AT PAR if not STRICTER THAN any of those used internationally. Lynas has never proposed the used of any China’s standard.
Australian law restricts construction of such plant within 35km radius of residential area.
There is no such Australian law or even other international law on this. The nearest town to Mt. Weld, Laverton just HAPPENS TO BE 35km away. The distance is not a requirement.
Lynas brought in lanthanide concentrate without license.
Lynas DID NOT and HAS NEVER brought in any lanthanide concentrate into Malaysia. The logistical trial run carried out by Lynas used an empty container instead.
Lynas came to Malaysia to avoid strict Australian rules.
Malaysia regulatory requirements IS EQUAL TO or STRICTER THAN that of Australia’s. But, Malaysia is chosen for its:
- conducive and competitive investment climate
- optimum resources.
Lynas was chased out from Terengganu due to environmental reasons.
Lynas WAS NEVER chased out of Terengganu. But, Gebeng has the required port facilities, reliable support facilities and technically competent work force.
Lynas is a nuclear plant.
Lynas is NOT a nuclear plant but a simple chemical processing plant operating at atmospheric pressure and ambient temperature. Therefore, there will be no fire or explosion that will cause radioactive dispersion and contamination into the environment.
Lynas is the same as the controversial Asian Rare Earth (ARE) plant.
ARE uses monazite as raw material and Lynas DO NOT use monazite. Lynas’s raw material radioactivity is 37 times LESS than ARE. Lynas residue is 60 time LESS radioactive than ARE.
Environment will be polluted because the plant is located in a swampy land with shallow water table.
Lynas original site is about 2 m above the water table. The site has been prepared by replacing with 1.4 m local fill making the site 3.4 M. above water table. The RSF is built on top (not excavated) of the new site. The base of the temporary storage facility is 0.75 M. thick making the base now 4.15 M ABOVE WATER TABLE. The wall of the storage facility is 9 m high.
Radioactive Exposure Prevention measures taken by Lynas:
- Thorium is not soluble in water and thus can be precipitated and separated out.
- HDPE liner will prevent leaching
- Clay (layer below HDPE) has very low permeability to water and that will further prevent any possible leaching.
- Thorium has strong affinity (stick strongly) for clay, thereby further reducing leaching.
- An under liner leak detection system (ULLDS) monitors and detects any possible leak.
Lynas will cause radioactive rain from the gas released by the stack.
In a worst case scenario, the Radiological Impact Assessment estimated that stack release may only contribute 0.002mSv/year to the public which is 500 TIMES LESS THAN THE MAX. PERMISSABLE DOSE LIMIT set by the AELB (1 mSv/year)
The plant uses a lot of acid that can contaminate the soil.
All process areas are built on BUNDED CONTAINMENT CONCRETE structure. Any acid spill will be contained in the bund and WILL NOT come into contact with the ground.
Lynas did not carry out study on internal radiation exposure.
Lynas carries out RIA in accordance to all regulatory requirements and IAEA standards. RIA is an assessment of total dose and risks to critical targets (eg. workers and public) calculated based on all possible exposure pathways. This means that both external and internal exposures were already considered.
Lynas operation will induce cancer and caused deformed newborns.
Statistic from Ministry of Health 2007 shows that cancer prevalence is 720 cases per million. BEFORE LYNAS the, estimated fatal cancer from background radiation at Lynas site is 35 cases per million. With Lynas in operation, based on the 0.002 mSv/y, the estimated fatal cancer is 0.1 case per million.
Radon and Thoron can travel thousands of miles and cause health problems.
Radon and Thoron are radioactive gases with VERY SHORT HALF LIVES AND WILL NOT TRAVEL FAR. Once formed, these radionuclides will immediately transform into solid and cannot travel at significant distances from its base.The dose rate at Lynas outside fence:
Radon – 0.00002 mSv/year
Thoron – 0.002 mSv/year
No level of radioactivity is safe.
Radiation is all around us. Some areas in Perak, Selangor and Langkawi have higher than the average Malaysia’s level of radiation but posed no hazardous onsequences. Radiation is also used in the medical field and it is perfectly safe.
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No....aku bkn nak tengok bullshit by someone else
ai nak tengok statistic bhw menda nih x memudaratkan org kalo tertimbun kat tanah...... |
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Kerajaan biasanya akan bagi incentive untuk menarik pelabur asing. Tax incentive merupakan salah satu drpd incentive tersebut.
Cuba check incentive yang kerajaan kasi kat kilang-kilang lain di Gebeng tu. Lebih kurang je..bukan Lynas je yang dapat.
Mereka ni pelabur antarabangsa, jadi kerajaan akan offer incentives yang akan membuatkan mereka melabur di Malaysia.
Orang MITI kat sini tolong kasi tau mereka pasal ekonomi ni...berapa banyak FDI yang lari ke Singapura, Indonesia dan Thailand pasal kita punya non competitive incentive. |
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Nak tengok, betul-betul tutup tak kilang ni bila PKR menang. Bagi Cina wang menjana wang (peribahasa). Tak kan ditutupnya sebab kilang ni kasi byk untung kat negara. Pasti kasi alasan baik punya lepas tu..biasalah PKR ni..pasal konar-konar no 1.
PAS dah setuju dgn Dr. Rosli. Tinggal mereka yang nak popular dan jadi wakil rakyat je yang dok bising pasal ni. Semuanya POLITIK. |
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No....aku bkn nak tengok bullshit by someone else
ai nak tengok statistic bhw menda nih x memudar ...
Boon_head Post at 26-2-2012 14:49
cari laa pakar bebas....so far x jumpa lagi pakar bebas ni...kecuali org politik ajer dok bergebang pasal hal ni... |
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negeri 9 dan johor pun banyak kilang yang lebih bahaya dari lynas ni...x kecoh pun...
abgboroi Post at 26-2-2012 13:57 
contohnye? |
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buat jer kat Putrajaya....byk tanah kosong lagi kan...
sebelah2 dgn kompleks kerajaan tu ker... ...
peachRose Post at 26-2-2012 13:58
paling sesuai kat johor  |
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Post time 26-2-2012 02:15 PM
