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i nie non chinese n pilih IPTS yg 99% chinese kononnya bleh excel laa..sebab saingan yg kuat but then..hampesss...depa nie control result nak mampus..i mean tak bagi kita yg non chinese ni..lebih kaum diaorg...memang sedih sgt...apa nak buat segalanya dah terlambat..duit dah byk labur..haihhhh....anyone same experience as me??? |
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nak share pengalaman tak kot coz aku study kat public uni, juz curious je are they as competitive as when they are in public uni maksud aku derang ni memang competitive by nature or competitive bile keluar kepompong je?
teaching method and learning system bnyk sgt ke beza ke ngan public uni?
i'm not being racist and all cume curious je coz bila my lecturer complaint pasal law student uia tak kritikal masa PBL n lembap participation mase tutorial [kitaorg kan majority malays] then there this one law lecturer a chinese from other instituioni ckp even she face the same problem dgn student dia [chinese la..] coz they have the tendency to memorize
is that true? |
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mmg betul. to tell you the truth, bukan melayu je, cina memang suka di spoon fed. dulu kat U akak, mmg mcm tu jugalah..nak score A, nak lecturer suap je. hafal teori byk2 tapi praktikal tak reti. ada kesnya ada sorang senior akak tu score 4 flat, tapi bila masuk kerja, tak tahan sbab environment kerja jauh beza dgn belajar. totally different. ada sorang lagi tu (chinese juga), siap menyesal, score waktu degree tapi satu aktiviti ko kurikulum pun tak pernah masuk...
rasanya sistem aducation sgt, churns a lot of As tapi bukan churning mereka yg byk ada analytical thinking.
boleh refer atricle ni
Malaysia Impeded by Poor Graduates
IslamOnline.net & News Agencies
"The general take on Malaysian education is that it is a banking system where students are just passive recipients of knowledge," said Lee.
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teringin gak nak change of environment but if that is the case, i am complacent to be in a normal IPTA..
heheh....
generally chinese ni agak competitive |
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Originally posted by redsinner at 2-12-2006 06:27 PM
teringin gak nak change of environment but if that is the case, i am complacent to be in a normal IPTA..
heheh....
generally chinese ni agak competitive
hehe..nak try? join la UNIVERSITY TUNKU ABDUL RAHMAN!! boleh jadi giler dibuat nyer..:geram: |
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apa yg aku tgk student malay n chinese tak ada bezanya. lebih kurang sama. lebih banyak menghafal dari memahami, so bila kita beri soalan bentuk application tak leh nak jawab coz tak pandai nak relate apa yg dia hafal ngan situasi yg diberi. boleh kata semua, tak kira bangsa, nak kena suap. susah nak dpt student yg betul2 cemerlang, terpaksa adjust markah utk bagi student dpt A. |
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Originally posted by milkteddy85 at 3-12-2006 01:38 AM
hehe..nak try? join la UNIVERSITY TUNKU ABDUL RAHMAN!! boleh jadi giler dibuat nyer..:geram:
hehe...i'd love to do that. anyway, ape bahasa pengantar kat sana?
kalo english ok kot... |
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Originally posted by redsinner at 3-12-2006 09:31 PM
hehe...i'd love to do that. anyway, ape bahasa pengantar kat sana?
kalo english ok kot...
of course english tapi kan..mereka speak their language ALL the time.. |
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Originally posted by milkteddy85 at 9-12-2006 07:46 PM
of course english tapi kan..mereka speak their language ALL the time..
pelik ya... apasal pi sana pulok?? ade kwn melayu sorang blaja kat sana... tapi dia xde masalah sbb dia blaja sekolah cina (mak dia pun cina gok)
dan i'm chinese....
haku rase x pyh susah susah nk ngomel antara kaum... kalau nk blaja, blaja betoi betoi... pastu kalau result kureng seket mungkin rezeki krg kot... ataupun takdir....:hatdown: |
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Originally posted by miaowie at 22-12-2006 01:16 AM
pelik ya... apasal pi sana pulok?? ade kwn melayu sorang blaja kat sana... tapi dia xde masalah sbb dia blaja sekolah cina (mak dia pun cina gok)
dan i'm chinese....
haku rase x pyh susah ...
its quite irritating when u are so slumber n keen to be their friend but they just pulau-kan u juz because u are not their skin colour..universiti life its not just studying my dear..i didnt try to bring up a racial issue but im just very sad with the way they are..as a malaysian we are under one identity..so there is no point being so racial n only wanna stick to their own community |
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Originally posted by milkteddy85 at 3/12/06 01:38 AM
hehe..nak try? join la UNIVERSITY TUNKU ABDUL RAHMAN!! boleh jadi giler dibuat nyer..:geram:
UTAR branch mane?? |
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Reply #10 milkteddy85's post
well...will i be kicked out of the post if i share my point of view since i'm chinese i hope not
i'm not familiar with msia's tertiary edu system since i've spent my undergrad years in overseas
however, i've been hangin around at the Chinese version of Cari forum and i've seen exactly the same statements made by Chinese stu in Msia.
I guess sometimes ppl make all sorts of assumptions abt other races all the time. No offence here ^^
From what i've heard, they think they're underestimated, undervalued and blah blah blah because of their skin color. and here, i see similar issues with slightly different views, the only major distinction here is that both groups are of different skin color.
my perspective is that it aint a skin color problem at all. it's in fact how the education system in msia is like (dont u think?). most of the students are being spoonfed from primary edu-secondary edu to even tertiary edu. A few years ago before i left the country to pursue my degree, i spent 2 years in a local college and i was surprised at the indiferrence btw secondary edu sys and tertiary edu sys. Gosh, i was really disappointed at what i discovered back then.
racial issues are heigtening each year, much to my dislike (well im just a normal civilian who still doesnt have the power to stop all these chaos). why blame/assume things based on racial issues?
so there is no point being so racial n only wanna stick to their own community
well. hm. i'd like to raise my hand and say "i'm not one of them". growing up in a surburb in Kelantan, i've spent most of my childhood and adolescence hanging out with malay friends. all the things abt racial discrimination and stuff were virtually non-existed until i went to KL. i guess Chinese in other states feel less secure with the whole skin color thing since they've been primarily surrounded by Chinese friends. it's the same thing if you were asked to go to, say, denmark, and live within the culture. you wouldnt feel comfortable even if you're holding the country's greencard.
try to talk to them, i'd suggest. if they're arrogant, then be it. talk to some other people. some other chinese, whoever who isnt arrogant and ignorant. i just wish that someday, all the races in this country will stop BACKSTABBING each other. geee, isnt that tiring?
okay im done talking |
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Reply #12 Jasminefow's post
hey jas it was a good post..i really agree with u coz my days in school was more alike yours..i use to mix up with all races without any barriers..and suprisingly my chinese frens back at school arent like those i met in uni..i hope those who like to stick to their own community, break the barrier and mix around with everyone..its kindda fun to learn other ppls culture n learning their language.. |
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Originally posted by bizzybeez6440 at 30-11-2006 09:33 PM
nak share pengalaman tak kot coz aku study kat public uni, juz curious je are they as competitive as when they are in public uni maksud aku derang ni memang competitive by nature or competitive b ...
mark my words..berdasarkan 2 tawon aku kat IPTS yg 85% chinese students,derang nie mmg competitve di mana saje mrk berada..it's their nature to be competitive.. |
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Originally posted by carrie_connie at 30-1-2007 08:59 PM
mark my words..berdasarkan 2 tawon aku kat IPTS yg 85% chinesestudents,derang nie mmg competitve di mana saje mrk berada..it's theirnature to be competitive..
Is being competitive a bad thing? |
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Jasminefow, hang around the local scene more, and maybe you'll find some truth in what was said in Chinese Cari. |
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Originally posted by reinloch at 31-1-2007 05:59 PM
Is being competitive a bad thing?
not at all..because i strongly believe that by being competitive, students will be able to improve their learning & education quality..persaingan yg sihat arr. |
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What is another word for competitive? Kiasu? Folks might balk at the notion for being like a Singaporean. |
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malaysian=singaporean=kiasuan..hehe.. |
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Reply #19 milkteddy85's post
agree your statement: all chinese very kiasu...bad culture |
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