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Different between Original, AP Set & Water Set

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Post time 3-2-2007 07:55 PM | Show all posts |Read mode
   

Original Set

  • Nokia authorized distributors are Zitron, Avaxx and i-Mobile.
  • Sony Ericsson authorized distributors are T-Choice, Grandtech and Midlands.
  • First Mobile Group (FMG) is the main distributor of Samsung phones.
  • FMG is giving 18 months warranty.
  • Motorola authorized distributor are Satellite Technics, Zitron and MDM.
  • Siemens authorized distributors are Zitron and FMG.
  • u can service your phone at any service centres (Nokia Professional Centre, Sony Ericsson Certified Service Centres...)
  • 1 year warranty for the full set including charger, battery, handsfree.
  • geniune parts are used for repairing.


AP Set
  • Approval Products
  • mainly imported from oversea and sell it to the consumers.
  • AP set warranty by companies such as Final Choice, CSL, Nefion, Telstra, GTMax...etc
  • 1 year warranty for the phone and 1 month for the accesories like charger, battery, handsfree.
  • u must bring your phone back to the place u bought the phone for servicing.


Water Set
Stolen / Brought in from oversea without paying tax aka SIRIM Sticker. Considered Illegal. Mostly brought in by student studying oversea.


Tips 1

If you have an AP set with Vodafone or T-Mobile logo, it means that your phone might be locked. Those Vodafone or T-Mobile are the service operators in the UK and that's where the phones come from. Not all AP sets have the logo. AP sets are Approved Products which means that these products are certified by sirim that your product is safe to use.

In other words, AP product not brought in by the authorised distributor like Midland, T-Choice for SE, Avaxx or Zitron for Nokia, FMG for Samsung and etc. The phones can even come from Singapore and may even have the M1, Singtel or Starhub logo. Remember to check the phone if it is locked especially those from Singapore and Vodafone.


Tips 2 AP sets has different level of QC. Big AP companies like Final Choice, GTMAX, Nefion, Telstra, O'Connors have extensive QC checks. Others like MSL, YS, PLANTRONICS or names not mentioned above, are slightly cheaper than the above. Whether they replaced their parts with other stuff, its another question.


Tips 3

AP set actually pay government tax but is juz that they are not taxed by the Local Authorised Dealer. AP set is normally distributed by small handphones companies and they might stop business anytime.
Futhermore if there's major damage on your AP set, the AP companies might not have enough equiptment to fix it. At the end, they still have to send it to the authorized dealer (eg. Zitron, Avaxx).

Tips 4
Like what everyone else have said, a phone without a sirim sticker is considered as illegal and thus cannot be sold here. But I'm gonna assume that if the phone is not available here, it should be better. And besides, if you bought the phone from overseas and bring it back here to use, don't tell me it would be illegal to use it right?

Speaking of buying a waterset from a shop, they might say that you did not inspect it properly before buying and thus you are at fault. So yeah guys, if you wanna buy a phone, do yourselves a favor and do these few things:

  • Check for sirim sticker (this is a MUST. Everyone should know this).
  • Cross check IMEI numbers on the phone and the box
  • Ask for warranty card.
  • Ask if the warranty card needs to be sent to wherever necessary.
  • Check all the features of the phone (iow, play with the phone, make sure everything is working).
  • Check for dead pixels.
  • Check the firmware if possible (*#0000# for most nokias). This way, you can check if it's old stock or not.
  • And of course, make sure you get the propper set. As in nothing missing like the handsfree and stuff.

Sorry, deviated a bit from what is a waterset, but really, people should know these stuff to avoid getting cheated.

Btw, watersets are usually sold without accesories, only phone and charger. So sometimes if you add up buying the accesories elsewhere, it might cost near the same as buying a proper set


There are recon set might be known as water set, so beware while you buying.
Recon set are second hand handphones from overseas, they juz change the phone cover (might not be original cover) and do some servicing inside and sell it as an AP set with warranty 1 year summore. As I know FMG will not fix phones other than FMG warranty handset (even they are paid they will not fix)


Identify Original and AP Set
  • take out the phone case and battery.
  • original set comes with authorized company sticker (Zitron, Avaxx, T-Choice, Midland...)
  • AP set comes with AP company sticker (Final Choice...)
  • press *#06# to check the phone 15 digit serial number (IMEI).
  • compare it with the IMEI written on phone sticker (back of phone case) and package box sticker.
  • for original set, these serial numbers are the same.







source from: www.lowyat.net


[ Last edited by  Ax at 24-9-2007 02:52 AM ]

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Post time 4-2-2007 12:54 AM | Show all posts

Wahh.. nampaknya kredit musang dah ada perubahan positif.. ehehe..

Tp apsal tanda thumbs up eh? Mod beri secara senyap ke?? :hmm:

Ke mod dr bod lain yg beri kredit kat musang? ;)


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Post time 4-2-2007 05:34 AM | Show all posts
mod board ni tidur...

Musang banyak beri kemeriahan dan info pada bod ini..

Tapi...  apa ada pada kredit kan Musang?


Musang.. you are great... at least at our heart...
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Post time 4-2-2007 09:57 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by freekey at 4-2-2007 12:54 AM

Wahh.. nampaknya kredit musang dah ada perubahan positif.. ehehe..

Tp apsal tanda thumbs up eh? Mod beri secara senyap ke?? :hmm:

Ke mod dr bod lain yg beri kredit kat musang? ;)

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dia bukan dapat kat sini la freeky.. dia byk merayau kat board lain2 tu jugak..
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Reply #4 nurr_wilma's post

hehehe....sama la org tu
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Post time 4-2-2007 01:53 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by nurr_wilma at 4-2-2007 09:57 AM


dia bukan dapat kat sini la freeky.. dia byk merayau kat board lain2 tu jugak..

Oh ye ke?

Bukan ke lebai_wordl kata mod kat sini paling rajin bg kredit?? ;)



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Post time 5-2-2007 11:33 PM | Show all posts

Reply #6 freekey's post

dulu-dulu kottt...
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Post time 7-2-2007 12:53 AM | Show all posts
Sapa kata T-mobile tak bole guna di Malaysia???
Sekarang ni ramai pakar2 crack, bukan setakat itu saja, imei no pun boleh di ubah, contoh hp kena curi pun bole ubah ke imei no lain.
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Post time 6-4-2007 10:09 PM | Show all posts

for sony ericsson!!!

aloo...
nie code yang korang kena tekan untuk full info pasal henset se korang.
aku try time beli henset fr my papa aritu,memang bagus.
kalau aku tau dulu,takyah nak antar henset pi factory...

tekan nie:
* left * right * left left * left *
korang pi kat sevice tests, bole try dulu henset tu ble function fully or not.
kalo clamshell,siap bole tau brapa kali bukak/tutup.
:clap:
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Post time 7-4-2007 11:01 AM | Show all posts
baru nak tanya pasal AP set.. .thank u so much, musang :hug:
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Post time 8-4-2007 02:26 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by abemus at 6-4-2007 10:09 PM
aloo...
nie code yang korang kena tekan untuk full info pasal henset se korang.
aku try time beli henset fr my papa aritu,memang bagus.
kalau aku tau dulu,takyah nak antar henset pi factory... ...


x phm la ni... aku cube cm xde mende pun
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Post time 8-4-2007 07:34 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by abemus at 6-4-2007 10:09 PM
aloo...
nie code yang korang kena tekan untuk full info pasal henset se korang.
aku try time beli henset fr my papa aritu,memang bagus.
kalau aku tau dulu,takyah nak antar henset pi factory...

tekan nie:
* left * right * left left * left *
korang pi kat sevice tests, bole try dulu henset tu ble function fully or not.
kalo clamshell,siap bole tau brapa kali bukak/tutup.
:clap:


Aku pernah try pada Z610i, Z558 dan Z550 mmg berkesan..bley tahu braper kali kita bukak katup ...Tp Tak berkesan pada Z800....
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Post time 8-4-2007 01:05 PM | Show all posts
xtau lak aku kalo ader henpon se lain x dapat.
aku tau dr kawan aku ..
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Post time 10-5-2007 07:45 PM | Show all posts

Apa tu AP Set. AP set ni Boleh Dipercayai ke??

korang tau tak apa beza sebena AP set dgn Ori?
AP set ni = under water ke??

kalau AP set ni di kira ori gak.. accessories dia mcm mana plak??
ada sapa2 tau tak AP set dealer yang boleh dipercayai?
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Post time 10-5-2007 08:20 PM | Show all posts
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Post time 11-5-2007 02:11 AM | Show all posts
Koleksi AP aku...

- Nokia 3210 [Hilang masuk lubang jamban, x dapat nak ambik]
- Nokia 3310 [Jual ngan abang, dan masih digunakan]
- Nokia 6600 [OK & trade in]
- Nokia 6680 [OK & trade in]
- Nokia 73 ME [So far OK]

Koleksi ORI aku

- Nokia 3210 [opis bagi]
- Nokia 1100 [opis bagi]

Bagi aku sama je dari segi penggunaan, pandai jaga ok je.. Yang lain cuma co. yang offer warranty.
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Post time 11-5-2007 11:03 AM | Show all posts
ori mahal dari set ap
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Post time 11-5-2007 05:32 PM | Show all posts

Reply #1 apalancut's post

aku beli ap set..

setakat ni x de masalah...
..x de sebab x boleh dipercayai.

hp yg aku beli full set. dealer boleh kaw teim. so kesimpulan beli ap kalau duit ko
cukup2 makan.
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Post time 11-5-2007 09:30 PM | Show all posts
Aku amik dr Forum lain...malas arr nak translate...heheheh

Basically AP set have the same compenent in the box set with so called the "original" box set. I hope you understand the concept of AP and so called "orginal" set. Both are actually comes from the same manufacturer ie Nokia, SE etc. However the "original" sets are basically manufactured and meant for local market. Whereby the AP sets are meant for markets for non-locals. The reason they sell cheaper from the "original" sets is that "original" sets are covered by the local agent ie Nokia Malaysia (Zitron etc). You pay extra for their service they rendered. However, as for the AP sets, since it have been brought in from abroad without going through these local agents, so pay at cheaper price.

The question whether all in the box set is original or not, is all depends on the handphone shops. If you got the right kaki, AP set or not its not a problem. The support will always be there.
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Post time 11-5-2007 11:17 PM | Show all posts
Pegi kedai yang selalu korang 'lepak' la. under water takde jaminan tapi AP ada.
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