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The Legend Of Immortality...
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Post Last Edit by Cerridwen at 21-12-2010 16:08
Salam sejahtera. Minta maaf kalau isu ni pernah dibincangkan sebelum ni. Tempohari saya ada terserempak dgn 1 post kat sebuah forum lain (forum Barat), di mana threadnya adalah berkenaan dgn Immortality (Are there any immortal people in this world?). Salah seorang poster telah memberikan satu jawapan yg sgt menarik & misteri (bagi saya). Poster tersebut memberitahu:
A total of 8 extremely long-lived individuals are still alive out of an original group of 12.
1 (male) was murdered in Barcelona, Spain in 1796
1 (female) last known whereabouts Kiev in 1893 - presumed dead
1 (male) committed suicide in Oslo in 1954
1 (female) last known whereabouts Warsaw in 1895 - presumed dead
Poster ini sanggup register di forum tersebut semata2 utk memberikan jawapan di atas, dan kemudian bila ada poster lain yg bertanya lebih lanjut bagaimana dia tahu tentang jawapan di atas, poster misteri tersebut berkata, dia dah bercakap terlalu banyak dan terus hilang lepas tu. Dia cuma buat 4 total post (termasuk self-intro) dan terus tak post2 lagi sampai sekarang. Nick yg digunakannya juga misteri, ia merupakan nick org yg paling lama hidup, menurut Bible - 969 tahun.
Ada kemungkinan tak info yg diberikan oleh poster tu adalah benar? Yg saya tau, antara manusia2 yg memang sah immortal (di sini, immortality merujuk kpd manusia2 yg dah hidup beratus2 atau malah beribu-ribu tahun & masih hidup hingga kini, dan bukanlah maksudnya langsung tak mati2) ialah Dajjal & Nabi Isa (albeit not currently on earth). Pernah juga saya baca bahwa Nabi Khidir, Nabi Idris (albeit not on earth) & St Germaine pun immortal, tapi ini tak pasti sgt.
Thanks in advance for any input.  |
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immortal? cuba tanya abby abadi (immortal)
-kalau mortal, cuba tanya abby fana (mortal) :d |
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immortal? cuba tanya abby abadi (immortal)
-kalau mortal, cuba tanya abby fana (mortal) :d
sekngucing Post at 20-12-2010 00:26 
hadehh sempat buat lawak...
tapi seram pulak aku baca thread TT ni.. |
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immortal? cuba tanya abby abadi (immortal)
-kalau mortal, cuba tanya abby fana (mortal) :d
sekngucing Post at 20-12-2010 00:26 
Hahahaha.....
Takpun tanya highlander07...dia tu immortal katanya..... |
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-Appolonius of Tyana
-Count de Saint German
-Nabi Khidir / Green Man?
-Nabi Isa
PERCUBAAN NAK IMMORTAL TAPI GAGAL
-Maharaja Qin Shing Huang Ti
-Alexander The Great |
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-Appolonius of Tyana
-Count de Saint German
-Nabi Khidir / Green Man?
-Nabi Isa
PERCUBAAN NAK ...
zaharul_asriq94 Post at 20-12-2010 08:14 
Thanks for the input zaharul. Nama Appolonius of Tyana adalah sesuatu yg baru bagi saya, sebab sebelum ni tak pernah dengar nama dia dlm list mereka yg immortal. Saya dah cek di wiki, tapi tak dapat kesan paragraf mana yg mengatakan dia ni Immortal. Boleh bantu saya? Atau ada sumber2 lain yg boleh dikongsikan bersama? 1 lagi soalan, Alexander The Great tu apakah Iskandar Zulkarnain, atau org yg berbeza? |
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who wants to live forever................ |
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Reply 7# unekspekted_III
Ahasuerus? Yg ni, saya sedikit sukar nak digest. |
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few legends yg berkait dgn 'immortalities'
- duke of chesshire ; playing poker with the devil.. betting his live for eternity, klu kalah dia akan bermain poker sampai mati.. thus dia kalah.. and bilik tempat dia bermain poker ini ditutup.. castle tu masih ade lagi.. aku dah lupe ape name
- flying dutchman ; sworn to sail at sea for eternity, klu dapat lepas tanjung harapan
- few known US celebrities.. normally during 1920's ; sold themselves to a devil at Tcula Junciton/Bluesman Crossroad.. now live in eternities, as ghosts
most of the legends - cite pasal selling his soul to a devils.. then they live in 'eternities'..
mau???? |
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Reply unekspekted_III
Ahasuerus? Yg ni, saya sedikit sukar nak digest.
Cerridwen Post at 20-12-2010 12:20 
christian folklore.. sekor yahudi, mengejek jesus mase dlm perjalanan utk disalib.. - disumpah utk terus wandering on earth for eternities...
the interesting is.. dia dikatakan dari clan 'shoemaker'/'goldstein/rothchild.. yg memang terkenal amat..... err.. amat... influential sejak dulu.. mcm tak penah habis2 |
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few legends yg berkait dgn 'immortalities'
- duke of chesshire ; playing poker with the devil.. b ...
unekspekted_III Post at 20-12-2010 12:21 
Thanks for the input. Ada tak sebarang legend lain selain Count St Germain & Nabi Khidir, yg bukan berdasarkan 'sold their souls to the devil'? (Count St Germain for all we know, could have sold his soul to the devil as well, but it was never stated that way). |
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dalam forum abovetopsecret ada sorang mamat omputih dia claim dia dah jumpa ramai orang yang immorta ...
tinbeskut Post at 20-12-2010 12:21 
Dah baca thread dia kat ATS, tapi dia ni la yg kena debunked dgn poster misteri tu. By the way, website dia tak boleh loading la. Did you try? |
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christian folklore.. sekor yahudi, mengejek jesus mase dlm perjalanan utk disalib.. - disumpah u ...
unekspekted_III Post at 20-12-2010 12:27 
Ha'ah, i read that too. Tapi, kemusykilan yg membuatkan saya agak sukar nak digest legend Ahasuerus ni ialah sebab ia berkaitan dgn Nabi Isa. Seperti yg kita tahu, Nabi Isa tidak pernah disalib, sedangkan dlm legend itu, ia mengatakan bahwa Ahasuerus disumpah setelah mengejek Nabi Isa yg membawa palang salib menuju ke Golgotha. Jadi kalau Nabi Isa tidak pernah disalib, maka legenda Ahasuerus secara automatik menjadi tidak benar. Atau mungkin ada pencerahan lain? |
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Reply Cerridwen
bley je load... maybe sbb kawan guna adblock (extension/add-on) takde prob..
tinbeskut Post at 20-12-2010 12:34 
Dah try, tapi FF bagi ni.
Tak apa, nanti saya cuba lagi. Thanks for the link.  |
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Reply 6# Cerridwen
Ni pun zahrul refer kat buku We Are Not The First karya Andrew Tomas chapter APPOLONIUS OF TYANA |
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Reply 16# Cerridwen
"Folklore" beb.. Folklore.. mcm cite prince of toad jugak |
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Post Last Edit by zaharul_asriq94 at 20-12-2010 14:59
Appolonius of Tyana tu pernah kene hukum dgn maharaja domition. diorang mmg anti dgn appolonius, yang peliknya, tarikh kematian Appolonius x dpt dipastikan, sbb dia hilang ghaib depan maharaja Rom
kata2 terakhir sebelum ghaib depan mata raja:
You can detain my body, but not my soul, and also not my body
ratusan audience saksikan appolonius lenyap dalam cahaya....
dipercayai Appolonius larikan diri ke Tibet aka Shambhala, dan terus hidup kat sana
(We Are Not The First, Andrew Tomas, ms 178 -182)
* jgn risau, zahrul akan refer dari buku2 yg sahih, bukan mcm "nobito doremon" yg tau membebel, menggugel, pastu transform jadi hotel maniac* |
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