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Untold History : Perjanjian Setan 19 Disember 1862
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Post Last Edit by unekspekted_XII at 20-5-2011 15:19
Ada 3 Perjanjian antara Sultan Johor dan Colonial British for sovereign state of Singapore. 2 Perjanjian awal.. accessible thru archieve, isinya.. intipati perjanjian, butiran dan salinan asalnya. Korang pun boleh dapatkan kat mane2 salinan ni... BUT...
.... Perjanjian yang terakhir.. bertarikh 19 Disember 1862, yang dipersetujui bersama oleh HH Albert Baker dengan Queen Victoria... tidak dapat dipastikan.. dicari... dan diselidiki... = menjadi perjanjian "Rahsia"..
Cume sikit clue jee yang diberi..... :
PERJANJIAN PERTAMA 1819
Ini adalah butiran asal Perjanjian Persahabatan British dengan Temenggong dan Sultan Hussin.
Ditandatangani oleh Stamford Raffle himself, Sultan Husin dan Temenggong Abd. Rahman.... tiada ape2 yang pelik.
PERJANJIAN KEDUA 1824
5 tahun selepas perjanjian Pertama tadi.. British semakin tamak.. dan mengemukakan Perjanjian Ke-Dua ni.
Lihat butiran-butiran ini :
1. Clause II
Persempadanan Singapore = kesemua tanah.. dan pulau2 sekeliling Singapora sejauh 10 batu nautika.. semuanya termasuk ke dalam sempadan Singapura kepunyaan British..
TETAPI TIDAK.. kepulauan Batu Putih.. = yang terletak sejauh 24 Batu Nautika daripada Pulau Singapore...
Perkara ini tidak disentuh secara jelas semasa prosiding tuntutan Pulau Batu Putih in ICJ few years ago.
2. Clause VI dan VII
Dinyatakan dengan terang :
.. 'jika' Sultan dan Temenggung.. ingin berpindah.. British akan memberi pampasan 20,000 + 15,000 Pound.. sebagai timbalbalik.. Sultan dan Temenggung DAN KETURUNANNYA TIDAK BOLEH MENUNTUT ape-ape, yang ada ditanah/kebun/dusun/sungai dan segala macam hartabenda yang ditinggalkan di Singapura
... dan dengan itu.. Perjanjian ini lah.. yg dibuat pada tahun 1824, tergadailah keseluruhan Singapura....
TETAPI.......................
Telah dinyatakan dalam Law Journal.. bahawa, terdapat satu lagi Perjanjian.. yang dibuat pada tahun 1862.. yang.. abolish Clause VI dan VII ini
UNKNOWN AGREEMENT OF PERJANJIAN 1864
1858.. Temenggung Ibrahim berpindah ke Johor Bahru.. = thus make him.. terpaksa menjual semua tanahnya di Telok Blangah, mengikut perjanjian diatas...
In 1865.. selepas perjanjian ini dibuat antara anaknya HH Albert Baker dengan Queen Victoria.... :
- Telok Blangah menjadi sebahagian jajahan Takluk Johor oleh Sultan Abu Bakar dan keturunannya...... sampai sekarang
- Tyersall Estate menjadi tanah kepunyaan Sultan Johor
- Kawasan Bidadari dan beberape kawasan disekitar Keppel Harbour.. kembali ke tangan Sultan Johor..
Keadaan jadik terbalik.. instead of loosing more property.. he is gaining more and more...
PLAUSIBLE FACTS
= Ape sebenarnya intipati perjanjian 1864?????? by right... kesemua tanah sepatutnya Sultan Johor sudah tergadai mengikut fasal VI dan VII perjanjian 1824
Hahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
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internet lembap. nanti je laa aku pastekan butirannye |
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mananya ? bila nak paste ? |
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Perjanjian rahsia 1864 itu.. hanya dibuat untuk keturunan "Temenggong" dan British sahaja... bukan keturunan Sultan Husin
So.. sesape yang ade butirannye.. sile laa paste kat sini {:1_125:} |
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lagi????????? |
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Sampai sekarang Sultan Johor bebas aja bawak kereta dia dengan plat Johore atau TMJ masuk ke Singapore. Ada apa2 kaitan kaaa? |
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mesti ada rahsia atau perjanjian tersembunyi yang kita x tau...sebab bukan mudah & senang2 je kita nk dapatkan tanah kita semula...british pn banyak muslihat, tapi akhirnya tertipu jugak...or, sultan dah beli semula apa yg tergadai tu...ni my opinion la... |
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silap pemerintah dulu2 pegi gadai singapore tu sama mat saleh |
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Reply 11# tokapi
Some details menyentuh pasal Boundary agreement antara Pahang dan Johor mase Perang Bendahara Pahang.
The last part, part VI dan VII are 'abrogated' and 'annuled' or di cancel dengan persetujuan kedua belah pihak tanpa sebab2 yg diketahui. |
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Reply tokapi
Some details menyentuh pasal Boundary agreement antara Pahang dan Johor mase Peran ...
unekspekted_XII Post at 21-5-2011 09:51
Yerp.. agak kabur... persoalannya, kenapa British nak ambik sebahagian dari Tanah Telok Belanga tu sampai kena batalkan perkara 6 & 7 dalam perjanjian sebelum ni? Bukan ke dalam perjanjian sebelum tu dah setuju tanah sumer kat Singapore dah bagi kat British? Buat pe nak adekan nego dgn Abu Bakar lagi? Dah hak sendiri, nak buat ape pon buat la kan patutnye.
Adekah sebab pada mase British nak ambek sebahagian tanah tu, Maharaja Abu Bakar belum lagi pindah keluar dari Telok Belangah?
Bertambah penin!
Anyway, nampak mutual agreement antara pahang dan johor dan penetapan sempadan negeri pahang dan johor sebelum perjanjian 19 disember 1862 ni. Kalau Johor kena serang, Pahang kena tolong habis-habisan. Kalau Pahang kena serang, Johor pon kena pertahan habis-habisan.
Lepas tu kalau ada pesalah undang2 rakyat British di negeri tu, mesti diadili dgn undang-undang British dan mesti dilapor pada kerajaan yang ada Johor/Pahang. Adekah ada pristiwa di sebalik perjanjian ini? Ade mana2 British subject yang buat kacau ke masa kat Pahang / Johor dulu?
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Salam,
Tuan Uneks and lain2,
Maybe ni kot Perjanjian 1864 tapi x melibatkan Maharaja Abu Bakar dalam perjanjian ni.
Sebab x de pun tandatangan die.
Tapi perjanjian2 ni die berkesinambungan,
Start dari Perjanjian 1824.
Then Perjanjian 1862, British ada mention pasal article 6th dan 7th Perjanjian 1824.
Then Perjanjian 1864 sbg kesimpulan terhadap Perjanjian 1824 dan 1862.
kot la..maybe Tuan Uneks lebih mahir dan berpengetahuan ttg ni.
Kalu silap..arap maaf yer..kih kih kih..
Tadik duk tengah tulis pasal Perjanjian 19 Disember 1862, pahtu ada problem plak, then buke2, dah ade ditunjukkan dah perjanjian tu.
yang ni plak kesinambungan die..tp x tau la ni bersesuaian dengan kehendak Tuan Uneks.
Perjanjian 15 Ogos 1864
Conveyance of Tumongong’s Land at Tulloh Blangah
To all to whom these presents shall come I, the Honourable Captain James Burn, officiating Resident Councillor at Singapore, send greeting. Whereas by a Treaty entered into a Singapore between the Honourable Colonel Orfeur Cavenagh, Governor of Prince of Wales’ Island, Singapore and Malacca, by authority of the Right Honourable the Governor-General of British India in Council of the one part and His Highness Datu Tumungong Aboobakar Sri Maharajah Sovereign Ruler of Johore (The son and successors of the late Highness Daing Ibrahim Tumungong of Johore, one of the parties to the within written Indenture) of the other part, dated the nineteenth day of December, 1862, the provisions of the Treaty of 1824 in the within Indenture mentioned, referring to the lands at Tulloh Blangah in the Island of Singapore, also in the within written Indenture mentioned, are abrogated and annulled, and it is no longer necessary for the Government of British India to hold the piece of land, comprised in Government Lease Lot no. 1 of Lease No. 69 mentioned and assigned in the within written Indenture upon the trust therein declared in relation thereto. And his said His Highness Datu Tumungong Aboobakar Sri Maharajah has requested that the said piece or parcel of land shall be assigned in manner hereinafter mentioned. Now, know ye, that in consideration of the premises I, the said officiating Resident Councillor at Singapore, by virtue of the powers and authority in that behalf in me invested hereby assign and set over unto Inche Wan Abdulrahman of Singapore Inhabitant, the acting executor of the last will and testament of his said late Highness, Daing Ibrahim Tumongong of Johore, all the within mentioned piece of parcel of land together with the appurtenances thereto belonging, to have and to hold the same unto the said Inche Wan Abdulrahman as such executor as aforesaid, his executors, administrators and assigns, for the several trusts, provisos, declarations and agreements concerning the same in the within written Indenture mentioned and contained. In witness whereof I, the said Honourable Captain James Burn, officiating Resident Councillor as aforesaid, have hereunto set my hand and seal of office this fifteenth day of August, in the year of Our Lord One thousand eight hundred and sixty-four
(Signed) J. Burn, Captain.
Off Resident Councillor.
Signed sealed and delivered in the presence of
(Signed) Geo. Perreau
(Signed) J. Blundell
Registered No. 2118. This 15th August 1864,
(Signed) J. Blundell.
Head Clerk, Land Office. |
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PS: Sori..saya orang baru di sini n baru nak blaja.. time kasih |
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Reply 13# tokapi
biar aku tambah pening ko :
Adekah sebab pada mase British nak ambek sebahagian tanah tu, Maharaja Abu Bakar belum lagi pindah keluar dari Telok Belangah?
Abu Bakar sudah berpindah.. even sejak zaman bapak dia lagi dorang dah pindah duduk JB bersama2 anak beranak dorang.
Anyway, nampak mutual agreement antara pahang dan johor dan penetapan sempadan negeri pahang dan johor sebelum perjanjian 19 disember 1862 ni. Kalau Johor kena serang, Pahang kena tolong habis-habisan. Kalau Pahang kena serang, Johor pon kena pertahan habis-habisan.
Lepas tu kalau ada pesalah undang2 rakyat British di negeri tu, mesti diadili dgn undang-undang British dan mesti dilapor pada kerajaan yang ada Johor/Pahang. Adekah ada pristiwa di sebalik perjanjian ini? Ade mana2 British subject yang buat kacau ke masa kat Pahang / Johor dulu?
Yes.. berhubung perang bendahara pahang.. dan pengambilan Endau, Sedeli, Mersing, dan segala2 pulau hingga ke Tioman kepada Johor.
Old boundaries sejak zaman Melaka ialah : Negeri Pahang termasuk - sehingga ke Sungai Sedeli di Kota Tinggi sempadannya.. |
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Reply 14# manuskrip_lama
dated the nineteenth day of December, 1862, the provisions of the Treaty of 1824 in the within Indenture mentioned, referring to the lands at Tulloh Blangah in the Island of Singapore, also in the within written Indenture mentioned, are abrogated and annulled, and it is no longer necessary for the Government of British India to hold the piece of land, comprised in Government Lease Lot no. 1 of Lease No. 69 mentioned and assigned in the within written Indenture upon the trust therein declared in relation thereto. And his said His Highness Datu Tumungong Aboobakar Sri Maharajah has requested that the said piece or parcel of land shall be assigned in manner hereinafter mentioned. Now, know ye, that in consideration of the premises I, the said officiating Resident Councillor at Singapore, by virtue of the powers and authority in that behalf in me invested hereby assign and set over unto Inche Wan Abdulrahman of Singapore Inhabitant, the acting executor of the last will and testament of his said late Highness, Daing Ibrahim Tumongong of Johore, all the within mentioned piece of parcel of land together with the appurtenances thereto belonging, to have and to hold the same unto the said Inche Wan Abdulrahman as such executor as aforesaid, his executors, administrators and assigns, for the several trusts, provisos, declarations and agreements concerning the same in the within written Indenture mentioned and contained. In witness whereof I, the said Honourable Captain James Burn, officiating Resident Councillor as aforesaid, have hereunto set my hand and seal of office this fifteenth day of August, in the year of Our Lord One thousand eight hundred and sixty-four
aku boleh sum kan :
1. perjanjian sebelum2nya di sahkah 'batal'
2. Abu Bakar boleh buat ape saje 'as he wishes' terhadap tanah2 tu
3. Execute hak penjagaan terhadap successor2 Temenggung Abd. Rahman dan Temenggung Ibrahim
Just wondering... what makes British decided the foolish findings by loosing more grounds???? |
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jadi apa kah kesimpulan nya?adakah kita akan mungkin dapat singapore pakej dengan rakyatnya atau kita cuma nak singapore tanpa rakyatnye..
maaf sy baru belajar |
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yea ana pun nak tahu gak apa effectnya Perjanjian tue kat negeri Johor, akan dapat balik ke tanah tue
maaf ana pun br belajar jadi perlukan pencerahan dari yg pakar |
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adekah Albert Baker menggunakan kabel terBESAR nye iaitu Queen Victoria untuk mendapatkan tanah2 kat Singapura tu? mungkin sebab tu kompeni hindia timur tu tepaksa akur kot..
Kalo cam tu tak hairan la, sebab diorang kan kamceng dolu2.. |
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