Wine,CrossOver,WineX,Cedega

ascari · Post time 6-12-2006 11:32 AM

apa yg best .. apa yg kurang antara benda2 nih..sesiapa yg tahu ceritalah sikit...

[ Last edited by ascari at 6-12-2006 11:34 AM ]

bzzts · Post time 6-12-2006 03:50 PM

Originally posted by ascari at 6-12-2006 11:32 AM
Wine,CrossOver,WineX,Cedega

apa yg best .. apa yg kurang antara benda2 nih..sesiapa yg tahu ceritalah sikit...

oleh kerana ko dah sebut nama2 pelik tu, apa kata ko intro sikit apa yg ko tau pasal bebenda tuh.

ascari · Post time 6-12-2006 03:57 PM

nak bagi intro yg aku lemah nih...... tapi aku tahu sapa yg tere mende2 nih... minah flunxy tolong bagi intro sat...

[ Last edited by ascari at 6-12-2006 04:04 PM ]

Aefy_Laily · Post time 6-12-2006 06:37 PM

mengikut pengetahuan saya yang sikit nie wine crossover tu digunakan dalam linux OS.
yang mana kita boleh install windows application dalam linux OS. contoh kita nak guna
microsoft office dalam linux kita tidak boleh menginstall terus keatas platform Linux kerana
sistem nya adalah berbeza sama sekali.

cara2:-
1. kita perlu install wine atau crossover dalam linux OS
2. Run wine @ crossover
3. masukan cd microsoft office
4. dan install seperti biasa.

kalau nak pakai microsoft office just double click macam biasa.

nuckletight · Post time 6-12-2006 09:36 PM

err.. what is this..?

Show all posts · Post time 6-12-2006 11:19 PM

it's like u implement win32 API dalam linux or Mac OS X, i dah try crossover for mac, linux err! tak tau.. i boleh laa run NFS Underground inside it.. since crossover nie ada direct x API gaks built -in...

so apa beza nyer?:

1. wine adalah first project diaorang implement untuk windows apps runs kat linux,

2. crossover is a commercial and proprietary program developed by CodeWeavers.. wine based actually

3. cadega nama baru untuk WineX, cam transgaming untuk linux, tertumpu pada games jer focus utama pada DirectX API... cam wine lebih pada aplikasi windows (office, internet explorer, flash etc..etc)..

4. lagi satu ialah Darwine, which sama cam wine tapi di port masuk untuk Mac OS X & Darwin (Intel Version), kalau ur on PowerPC Mac dia akan emulate those x86 code (Slow!)..

advantage guna wine nie or variasi lain, antara nya sebab cepat, kekadang game runs lebih pantas FPS nyer pada linux... so tak perlu emulator yang slow itu cam VPC, Qemu, Bochs, parallels, or VMware ...

kat bawah nie contoh winzip windows version, di jalankan pada Mac OS X 10.4:

[ Last edited by Minah_Flunxy at 6-12-2006 11:49 PM ]

ascari · Post time 7-12-2006 10:08 AM

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Cedega (formerly known as WineX) is TransGaming Technologies' proprietary fork of Wine (from when the license of Wine wasn't the LGPL but the X11 license), which is designed specifically for running games written for Microsoft Windows under GNU/Linux. As such, its primary focus is implementing the DirectX API.

The community has managed to keep Wine in touch with developments in Cedega; many of the games and 3D applications perform almost as well as when natively running under Microsoft Windows. [citation needed]

WineX was renamed to Cedega on the release of version 4.0 on June 22, 2004.

Licenses

Though Cedega is mainly proprietary software, Transgaming does make part of the source publicly available via CVS, under a mix of licenses. Though this is mainly done to allow a means for non-TG staff to view and submit fixes to the code, it is also frequently used as a means to obtain a sort-of 'demo' version of Cedega. Due to complaints of the difficulty of building a usable version of the program from the public CVS, as well as its outdated nature, Transgaming released a proper demo of Cedega. The demo released by Cedega gave users a 14-day trial of a reasonably current version of the product with a watermark of the Cedega logo which faded from almost transparent to fully opaque every few seconds. This demo was removed without comment and it is not clear if it will be re-released in the future.

Note that while the licenses under which the code is released do permit non-commercial redistribution of precompiled public-CVS versions of the software, Transgaming strongly discourages this, openly warning that the license of TG-copyrighted sections of code will be changed if they feel abuse is occurring or otherwise threatened. Transgaming similarly discourages source-based distributions like Gentoo Linux from creating automated tools to let people build their own version of Cedega from the public CVS.

Functionality

Cedega is able to play many games "out of the box." In some cases it closely mimics the experience that Windows users have (insert disc, run Setup.exe, play). In other cases some amount of user tweaking is required to get the game installed and/or in a state of playability. Cedega 5.2 introduced a feature called the Games Disc Database (GDDB) that simplifies many of these settings and adds auto-game detection when a CD is inserted so that settings are applied for the inserted game automatically.

A basic list of features:

* Some types of copy protection
* Pixel Shaders 1.4
* Vertex Shaders 1.1
* DirectX 9.0c
* Joystick support including remapping axes

Controversy

While Cedega is popular among many GNU/Linux users, there is a sizeable portion of the free software community that refuses to use the program. There are three main reasons for this.

ascari · Post time 7-12-2006 10:24 AM

"Free riding" on the free software movement

Many in the community object to Transgaming's business practices by "making a quick buck" off the back of the Wine project, without contributing back. Transgaming obtained the source to the original Wine project when it was under the MIT License (non copyleft) and this license placed no requirements on how TransGaming published their software. TransGaming, unlike other companies with similar models, decided to release their software as proprietary software. Transgaming does release portions of the source code via CVS; however, it attaches legal restrictions which mean that it is not free software. Cedega includes licensed support for several types of CD-based copy protection (notably SecuROM and SafeDisc), the code for which TransGaming say they are under contract not to disclose.

In reaction, the Wine project changed its license to the GNU Lesser General Public License (LGPL). This means that anyone who publishes a modified version of Wine must publish the source code under an LGPL-compatible (and therefore free software) license. TransGaming halted using code contributed to Wine when the license was changed, though this has resumed recently with TransGaming integrating certain LGPL portions of Wine into Cedega and placing those portions of the source code on their public servers.

Reaction to inclusion in Distros

When some GNU/Linux distributions, notably Debian GNU/Linux and Gentoo, decided to package TransGaming's software, TransGaming threatened to make the license even more restrictive to prohibit this.

Quotation from the Cedega license:

Cedega
Note that while this license does permit certain kinds of non-commercial distribution of pre-compiled binary packages of Cedega, doing so on a large scale is discouraged, as it affects TransGaming's ability to continue to improve and develop the code. TransGaming reserves the right to change the license under which TransGaming-owned copyright code is made available, and will not hesitate to do so if non-commercial distribution of pre-compiled binary packages adversely affects the financing of continued development.

Cedega

General criticism to Win32 compatibility layers

Some GNU/Linux users feel that in encouraging development of Cedega, they are discouraging the development of native ports of games, such as those that were made by Loki Software, or even GNU/Linux-exclusive titles.

Show all posts · Post time 7-12-2006 04:54 PM

cedega or Wine u dah try runs it on top of linux ke? hows the game/apps performance? kalau u tak keberatan leh tolong ajarkan kitaorang cam mana nak install maybe dalam ubuntu or mandriva ke..