Keseimbangan Kekuatan Di Laut Cina Selatan

rifa

Reply 20# ejack85


    iya banyak kapal yang sudah tua,yang sudah tidak bisa dipakai,dihibahkan kepemerintah daerah provinsi dan yang lain jadi sasaran tembak,tapi banyak juga kapal baru yang dibuat seperti Kapal cepat Rudal,LPD,Sigma class Corvette yang ada dilebanon sekarang.kapal tahun 70an sudah dihapus dari inventaris TNI AL,pelan-pelan karena dana kurang.

mamat2009

adoila
ape2 topik pun, mesti indon dgn melayu nak tunjuk siapa lagi kuat

lkick2113

indon yg bukak thread ni...patut la.........malas layan...

wartakita

TNI AL saat ini berkisar 165 KRI dari berbagai jenis. Prediksi kekuatan armada itu pada tahun 2014 akan menyentuh angka 200 KRI. Yang menarik dari jumlah KRI sebanyak itu, 130 KRI adalah striking force mulai dari kelas fregat, korvet dan KCR karena punya kekuatan rudal Yakhont, Excocet, C805 dan C705.
rifa Post at 16-5-2011 23:16

Your TNI-AL's assets maybe adequate to counter Malaysia and/or Singapore ... but you still need more than that because your waters is very huge ......

TNI-AL need more frigates, destroyers, LPD/LHD, attack sub-marine, sea patrols etc urgently if Indonesia want to be respected in this region .... most important ... to balance a growing power of China and India (because no other country in this region has the capacity to do that except Indonesia) ..

innocentti

bukakla 10 thread baru..bubuhla tajuk apa pun..isi dalam, indomnesia stromgggg!!11

yang terulung terhebat terpantas lari semua depa

wartakita

bukakla 10 thread baru..bubuhla tajuk apa pun..isi dalam, indomnesia stromgggg!!11


yang terulung terhebat terpantas lari semua depa ..
innocentti Post at 18-5-2011 23:17

Don't worry and sad ... Malaysia + FPDA is still stronger than Indonesia and China .......

cmf_yipun78

2 frigates + 2 scorpenes + FPDA ... more than enough to make afraid Indonesia  ....
wartakita Post at 16-5-2011 21:25

    weyyyy, lu kalau nak bikin ribut kat sini dengan ayat sarcastic, wa akan pastikan ID lu dalam forum ni kene ban ya   so reti-reti beradab kalo masuk kawasan orang...

gede-bab

Reply 27# cmf_yipun78

Yip jangan cakap banyak...kasi hajar sama indon bego tu....:@

innocentti

Don't worry and sad ... Malaysia + FPDA is still stronger than Indonesia and China .......
wartakita Post at 19-5-2011 00:23

kenapa perlu bersedih sedangkan kami mempunyai kamu sebagai laughing stock disini?

sayapghaib

Don't worry and sad ... Malaysia + FPDA is still stronger than Indonesia and China .......
wartakita Post at 19-5-2011 00:23

FPDA tak ada maknanya sebab Malaysia perlu saing dengan Singaporah.Bukannya Indonesia.Kalau niat nak saing dengan Aussy buat apa nak harap FPDA.Kepada Indonesia terpulanglah nak kuatkan ketenteraan anda atau pun tidak.Jangan dilayan oleh jiran-jiran seperti kucing tanpa tuan merayu minta ikan sudahlah.

rifa

Ada orang indonesia,dia habis melancong ke singapura,dan ketemu dengan temannya yang habis menyelesaikan program NS(wamil).

Indo:Negara mana di asean yang menjadi ancaman anda?
sing:Ancaman terbesar adalah Malaysia
Indo:Apakah kalian ingin menyerang Indonesia,atau bagaimana jika terjadi perang indo-sing.
Sing:Indonesia ? Indonesia urusannya NAVY dan AIRFORCE.
Indo::Bagimana dengan Tentara darat?akan menginvasi Indonesia
Sing::Apa kamu bercanda?hahhahaha
Indo::Bagaimana cara singapura menginvasi malaysia?
Sing: peralatan Militer Singapore, disesuaikan berdasarkan kebutu*an:
untuk Menguasai Kuala Lumpur dalam waktu 3x24 jam, mendapatkan Supply Line,
Militer Singapura memiliki doktrin Forward Defense Line
Indo:dimanakah Leopard ?
Sing::Tidak tahu.hanya Armored Division dan Perwira yang mengetahui lokasinya, dan.dekat dengan Johor Baru
Indo:oh begitu
Sing::"Singapore sangat membutu*kan Indonesia, kami akan mencoba berbagai macam cara untuk tidak berperang dengan Indonesia.
dimana sebenarnya, ancaman Indonesia jauh di atas Malaysia."
Indo:cina atau Australia
Sing::hahahha anda sudah bisa menebak
Indo::Apa kelebihan ikut NS atau Wajib Militer
Sing::tahukah anda Setiap pemuda Singapura, yg lulus NS, mereka akan memiliki batalion tersendiri, dan memiliki Code tersendiri,lalu code itu bisa saja muncul dimana saja , mungkin ketika kami sedang nonton Movies di Theather or anywhere.
begitu code itu diluncurkan kami memiliki waktu 12 jam untuk report ke camp kami
Indo::Semoga sukses buat kalian.

Kita tidak boleh memandang mereka dengan enteng atau culun,Di Asean Singapura yang paling Modern Militernya,tapi soal battleproven belum teruji,dan singapura salah satu negara yang bisa menstabilkan SCS

gede-bab

Reply 31# rifa

wah...negeri titik merah memerlukan 12 jam untuk report di camp???....lama banget gan...
tempoh 12 jam singapur udah ancur jadi laut....

wartakita

The latest news ..... China vs Vietnam ..

VN demands China stop sovereignty violations

29/05/2011


Vietnam demands that the Chinese side immediately stop and not to repeat actions that violate Vietnam’s sovereignty and jurisdiction rights over its continental shelf and exclusive economic zone as well as pay damages for the Vietnamese side.


The statement was made by Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Nguyen Phuong Nga at a press conference in Hanoi on May 29 regarding the case that Chinese marine surveillance vessels on May 26 cut exploration cables of the Binh Minh 02 ship of the Vietnam National Oil and Gas Group (PetroVietnam) when the ship was conducting seismic surveys on the continental shelf of Vietnam.


“ Vietnam resolutely opposes the Chinese side’s action that damaged and hindered Vietnam ’s normal exploration and survey activities on its continental shelf and exclusive economic zone, causing great damages for PetroVietnam,” she stressed.


This action seriously violated Vietnam’s sovereignty and jurisdiction rights over its continental shelf and exclusive economic zone, breaking the 1982 UN Convention on the Law of the Sea and going against the spirit and words in the Declaration on the Conduct of Parties in the East Sea (DOC) signed between ASEAN and China in 2002 as well as the common perception of the high-ranking leaders of Vietnam and China, she added.


Nga also rejected the Chinese Foreign Ministry Spokesperson’s remarks on May 28 that the Vietnamese side’s oil and gas exploration activities in the waters managed by China damaged the country’s interests and management right in “South China Sea”, going against the two countries’ common perception on the “South China Sea” issue and that the action taken by the Chinese governing body is merely a marine supervision and law execution in the China-managed waters.


She explained that the area where Vietnam conducted explorations is entirely within the 200-nautical mile exclusive economic zone and continental shelf of Vietnam as stipulated by the 1982 UN Convention on the Law of the Sea. This is neither a disputed area nor an area “managed by China ”. China is intentionally misleading the public opinion into thinking it is a disputed area.


Nga at the same time stressed that Vietnam always adheres to the common perception of the countries’ high-ranking leaders on addressing all disputes through peaceful measures and avoiding actions that further sophisticate the situation. “There is no common perception that says China has the right to impede Vietnam ’s activities in the exclusive economic zone and continental shelf of Vietnam ,” she said, adding that it is China ’s action that goes against the common perception of the two countries’ high-ranking leaders.”


The spokesperson also pointed out that while China calls for solving relevant disputes through peaceful measures, its own action is making the situation in the East Sea more complicated.


Asked about China ’s nine-dashed line claim in the East Sea and a series of recent disputes with Vietnam and the Philippines , Deputy Chairman of Vietnam ’s National Border Committee Nguyen Duy Chien said:


“ China ’s nine-dotted line or “U-shaped line” in the East Sea is completely groundless and runs counter to the 1982 UN Convention on the Law of the Sea of which China is a member. The claim has violated the exclusive economic zones and continental shelves of a number of countries in the region, including Vietnam , and prompted protests from these countries. China ’s attempt to materialise this claim is in fact increasing tension in the region.”


In response to journalists’ questions about Chinese leaders’ repeated proclamations that “ China advocates peaceful solutions to disputes” and that “It is powerful but not hegemonic”, Nga said “We hope that China will fulfil its role as a power and strictly follow what Chinese leaders have declared.”


Do Van Hau, Deputy General Director of PetroVietnam, briefed reporters of the incident when PetroVietnam-owned Binh Minh 02 ship was blocked and threatened as well as had its cables cut by three Chinese marine surveillance vessels while conducting explorations at 12 degrees 48’25” north latitude and 111 degrees 26’48” east longitude, some 116 nautical miles off Dai Lanh cape in the central coastal province of Phu Yen.


Hau emphasised that the sea water where PetroVietnam’s ship was operating is deep inside Vietnam ’s continental shelf.


PetroVietnam has conducted seismic surveys in the area for numerous times and Binh Minh ship 02 operation within the sea waters under Vietnam ’s sovereignty is quite normal, said the PetroVietnam senior official.


Hau said the Chinese ships’ cutting Vietnamese ship’s cables is a deliberate and well-prepared action.


“It is impossible to cut cables at a depth of 30m under the water without special equipment,” the oil and gas exploration expert explained.


“The incident has caused considerable losses and obstructed operations of PetroVietnam. The Binh Minh 02 ship and logistics ships had to stop working in order to repair the damaged facilities,” Hau said, adding that the Binh Minh 02 ship has so far resumed normal operation after the repair.



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