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MB: Serbuan JAIS memalukan, rosakkan majlis kahwin 730 32
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vikramavardhana posted on 7-6-2014 10:47 PM
I think Malaysian Hindu Organizations should help this girl toward legal action. She suffers humilia ...
first of all, hindu sangam should send memorandum to all temples in malaysia to conduct more spiritual study or sermon before any prayer....if you do not want your kids to convert to other religion...
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I think none muslims love to attacked JAIS out of revenge or anger. this not good. The officers are given a responsible to look after the muslims in this country. it is his duty to conduct investigation if received information from public...none muslims view it as raid aka taliban.... why calling it taliban when the officers not carrying weapon nor doing in very terror act ? I think the none muslims need correct this kind of thinking....we should be fair what we think and write....I sometime do not agreed Jais act for certain issue.....than I voice out but that kind issue is base on something do not make sense like for example a convert want to come from islam when he/she no longer keeping islam or a convert running with kids when the kids still below 18....and etc..for this kind issue, we can comments....but the comments must come out without anger nor revenge...it should be fair comments accoridng facts...bukan bantai babi buta..
This not a raid rather a investigation ....it is their duty to stop the women who carrying Muslims IC from marrying hindu ritual...I do not found any wrong doing in this issue..
Secondly, like I said...we living in Islamic country and we should respect their law ....we have king and the law according to Islamic law... iif anyone feels this laws is burden and unfair, please pack your things get out from this country...Thank you
Last edited by Truth.8 on 9-6-2014 11:37 AM
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by Muslim.8
I think none muslims love to attacked JAIS out of revenge or anger. this not good. The officers are given a responsible to look after the muslims in this country. it is his duty to conduct investigation if received information from public...none muslims view it as raid aka taliban.... why calling it taliban when the officers not carrying weapon nor doing in very terror act ?
We attack JAIS because they are full of backstabbers like you. Calling yourself Christian but have NOT FAITH in Christianity and always wash the rear end of Muslims. A special place in Hell awaits people like you.
JAIS have no authority over non-Muslims. They have no rights to enter another race's temple or house of worship nor do they have any authority to raid and hold anyone. WHO GAVE THEM SUCH POWER? What is the Constitutional laws which empowers JAIS to commit such actions? Even police have to produce warrants before entering a premises or stop anyone, so who gave them such authority? Are JAIS equal to Police here? IF so, then labelling JAIS as Taliban-like are not far-fetched.
My advice to non-Muslims - DO NOT ENTERTAIN JAIS IF THEY DEMAND ANYTHING FROM YOU. THEY HAVE NO AUTHORITY OVER MALAYSIAN PEOPLE, INCLUDING MUSLIMS. Malaysia do not govern by Syariah or Hudud Laws and we should not be bothered about this Taliban-wannabees.
And if they (JAIS) use violence, then you should use violence to defend yourself as well. Maybe when a few JAIS members died in such raids, they will know what fear is. |
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by Snake.8
Like i says, Jais has responsibility to act...if there received tip off, do you expect them to be silent?
They have NOT authority or responsibility in this country. SHOW ME the Constitution which allows JAIS members (or any members of a religious order) to raid other races' temples, premises and homes.
simple, she should consult JAIS before the marriage.......
And what makes you think she did not? In the interview, she have stated that she had spend YEARS and over RM 20,000 trying to get her IC changed through court orders. DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT BEFORE YOU OPEN THAT MOUTH?
...during the Investigation not raid, they found she carrying muslim name..
Yes, a name. But is she a Muslim? Did they ask her politely what had happened (whether she is a Muslim or not) before performing the raid? Answer :- NO. They just want to showcase their Taliban attitude.
One of these days, someone going to get really upset and chop this JAIS ba$tards to little pieces.
It's a F*#king RAID, @sshole. |
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Sephiroth posted on 9-6-2014 01:07 PM
by Muslim.8
there is no violent nor raiding...it merely a responsbility given to JAIS officers to carry out their duty...to investigage....if found that the betina using muslim ic for marriage of hindu ceremony....
if you have hindu daughter and marrying cannibals style like eating human flesh before married, what you do??
so in this case it look this betina creating problem rather than seeking advise from JAIS in first place..
So, it is justify according to JAIS acts..
next please....
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Sephiroth posted on 9-6-2014 01:07 PM
by Muslim.8
secondly I am not like you inject hatred to create war and bringing unstable situation in this thread ...
I write using my brain ...thank you
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Sephiroth posted on 9-6-2014 01:13 PM
by Snake.8 They have NOT authority or responsibility in this country. SHOW ME the Constitution which allows JAIS members (or any members of a religious order) to raid other races' temples, premises and homes.
Like i said they did not raid rather received a information that muslim women marrying hindu ritual....which is totally wrong.... ...if they kept silent after received the information ....they need to:
answerable to Goverment
answerable to public for being weak department
answerable to God during judgment day
so, what choice do they have???
so, before you open you dirty mouth ...i would advise you to make use of your tiny brain to THINK....thank you
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by Snake.8
there is no violent nor raiding...it merely a responsbility given to JAIS officers to carry out their duty...to investigage....if found that the betina using muslim ic for marriage of hindu ceremony....
Responsibility given by WHO? What constitution empowers JAIS to RAID other people's premises, temples and ceremonies in such way?
Do you even know what is the lawful definition between investigation and a raid or not? Investigation means the party in question have to produce warrant to enter a premises and reasons to question people. JAIS have no warrant nor do they produce lawful reasons to stop the ceremony. Therefore this is a F#%KING RAID.
So, it is justify according to JAIS acts..
ONLY @ssholes like you could justify a Taliban-group like this. |
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by Snake.8
They can start by answer the question WHO gave them the authority to enter non-Muslims' premises.
answerable to public for being weak department
Non-Muslims are also public. JAIS FAILED to follow laws which exist to protect the non-Muslims' rights to exist in this Country. Therefore they should answer why they behave more like Talibans than civilised people in a court of law.
answerable to God during judgment day
What god? Some Arabic nonsense called Allah which they themselves cannot prove exist? For that imaginary god, they are going to waste our time here while still living?
IF they worry so much about what happens after death, TELL THEM TO DIE FIRST. |
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Sephiroth posted on 9-6-2014 04:07 PM
by Snake.8
whether we like or not we are the malaysia citizen and should respect malaysia being islamic state:
TRADITIONAL CONSTITUTION ELEMENTS AND SOCIAL CONTRACT
Elements of traditional constitution are
1. Monarchy
Absolute monarchy system is changed to system of constitutional monarchy
2. Islam Religion
Puts Islam as the official religion of the Federation.
3. Special Position of the Malays
The special position of Malays is preserved as the special responsibility of YDPA.
4. Malay Language
Malay language as the language of the federal National.
so, when islam is official religion, JAIS being given the task to look after the muslims here, they have every single right to investigate or raid if recieve information from public.
As what Jesus says:
And they brought it. And he saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription? And they said unto him, Caesar's.
Mark 12:16
And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. And they marveled at him. Mark 12:17
If non muslims feels such move was not justify, than you packed up you things GET OUT from malaysia. simple as that
Last edited by Truth.8 on 9-6-2014 05:24 PM
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Sephiroth posted on 9-6-2014 04:12 PM
by Snake.8
now you dont need jump all around blaming arab , taliban and bla bla bla...
I am malaysian, so I need to respect the rules in this country...as citizen of malaysia....I should respect malaysia being Islamic country...
MAKA KAMI, rakyat Malaysia, berikrar akan menumpukan seluruh tenaga dan usaha kami untuk mencapai cita-cita tersebut berdasarkan atas prinsip-prinsip yang berikut :
KEPERCAYAAN KEPADA TUHAN;
KESETIAAN KEPADA RAJA DAN NEGARA;
KELUHURAN PERLEMBAGAAN;
KEDAULATAN UNDANG-UNDANG;
KESOPANAN DAN KESUSILAAN
p/s : Raja dan Negara? They are Muslim...so anyone go aganist the country rules, it kind of mocking the King and Country...Thank you....Next please
Last edited by Truth.8 on 9-6-2014 05:28 PM
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Truth.8 posted on 5-6-2014 06:31 PM
tindakan JAIS dlm isu ini di panggil " tanggunjawab" kerana sudah menerima maklumat ...maka mer ...
NI ADALAH KONSEP PROFESSIONALISM.
macam ada polis yg professional yg patut respect.
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wei_loon5063 posted on 9-6-2014 05:28 PM
NI ADALAH KONSEP PROFESSIONALISM.
macam ada polis yg professional yg patut respect.
Yes they act professional in this manner after getting information from public.
what happen if they do not act? it call not professional and lazy
please open up your eyes and mind and try to understand the law in the country..
what i can see , the non muslims are so emotional , anger and revenge...this is not good for our beloved country..
whatever differences we have, we cannot blame the authority for everything...we need to be responsbile in our comments if what the authority doing is justify or not...
in this manner the JAIS act base on their Professionalism and responsbilities ..we should respect that.
Last edited by Truth.8 on 9-6-2014 05:39 PM
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Truth.8 posted on 9-6-2014 05:30 PM
Yes they act professional in this manner after getting information from public.
what happen if th ...
yes, I concur, this is a muslim country and federal constitution is to be uphold.
if this is to be uphold, then act with no double standard
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wei_loon5063 posted on 9-6-2014 05:35 PM
yes, I concur, this is a muslim country and federal constitution is to be uphold.
if this is ...
in this issue there is no double standard....
let says if you were the guest and noticed the wedding card show muslim women name and performing hindu ritual, first thing come to your mind is the authority are weak... many question come to you mind....
simple as that..
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