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Tolong Sebarkan PENGETAHUAN yg PENTING ini!!!
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kpd semua yg mengikuti thread ini....
mak sy sudah kembali ke rahmatullah pagi tadi jam 4.12am dan selamat dikebumikan...
hanya dpt consume product ni dlm 1 bulan je.....agaknya dah terlewat....tq kpd semua...yg membantu... |
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salam dr..
sgt berminat pasal genetic ni.. friki pon wonder n ur argument w Arissa_Sofea buat friki lg nk tau.. Dr Rakyat pls answer to her post..
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Reply 181# biosfree
inalillahiwainnailaihirojiun..  stay strong bro.. |
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innalillahiwainnailaihirojiun....semuga arwah mak dicucuri rahmat dan ditempatkan dikalangan orang orang yg beriman...ibu mertua saya pun meninggal kerana cancer jugak. |
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takziah kpd biosfree.. dari dia kita datang.. kepada dia kita kembali |
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Post Last Edit by annaKarenina at 23-12-2011 22:59
Sorry Dr Rakyat I'm not convinced...not a penny...ppl still dying despite makan your product mcm nak rak.... Too bad... In fact lepas sebulan makan dah meninggal (even faster...)... Takziah kpd saudara bio and family.. |
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Thanks Dr. Rakyat kerana dah jwp soalan sy.
Takziah utk saudara Bio.. |
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WOW.....dah lama saya tak post....sebab banyak sangat perayaan di musim cuti lalu, me also just back from holiday trip with family and also after hantar children for new schooling day so now i'm back in action.....
Akan jawab soalan yg ada now...please bear with me.... |
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Reply 188# Dr.Rakyat
again with the belittling and patronising...oh how i don't know that pain can cause high blood pressure....please oh please enlighten me...
doesn't pain only cause transient elevated BP?? pain does not cause chronic hypertension..
Jawapan:
Belitling & patronising? i think you are over sensitive and got it all wrong....i'm just merely straight to the point and trying to highlight that a sudden surge of Blood Pressure are not always cause by high cholesterol and such as a general guidelines BUT since u mention CHRONIC Hypertension then it is also possible cause by infection. Can you denied the fact?
Again, my point here is that the causes of Hypertension is NOT one but under many circumstances.
yeah, i'm not disputing ppars modulators have a role in cancer etc...I can see the evidence based papers alright...
But not once does those papers mention 'crypto ppars'...
Jawapan:
Let us not twist and turn and go straight to the point whether u can accept it or not.
As for as clinical trial, test, procedures, analysis and etc......they will ALWAYS go for ISOLATED substances. For example, when we sent an Orange to the lab to test it efficacy and potent level of its vitamin C, do u think the report will write there....the conclusion as per our analysis on an orange BRANDED "Sunkist" or an apple BRANDED "Washington Apple" or FUJI Brand APPLE and such has more vitamin C???
NO NO NO!!!! they will instead just concluded the potent level of the vitamin C and its efficacy in anti-oxidant and blar blar blar......this is the SOP in pharmacology and the LOGIC!......gosh.....dah berapa kali explain.....
so answer me this...how does crypto algae works pahrmacologically and pathophysiologically?? explain the mechanism of absorption, metabolism, bioavailability, excretion etc...
Jawapan:
For the question above, i think i have oledi answer too many times oledi for those who really read the medical journals and report whther directly or indirectly, BUT if the "Very obvious" and clear cut answer that you are looking then ok...i shall provide them once and for all and i think its very fair for you to ask this question, BRABO and thanks! info posted as follows:
where are papers showing comparison of crypto algae against other cancer drugs for example...you want to provide evidence based medicine, do it the right way, peer-review your products....
Jawapan:
I think u have a valid argument there but unfortunately there is always policies in whichever industry and particularly sad for the pharmaceutical industry its WORST.....
Hence, frankly and straight forward you WILL NOT get the comparison as refer above UNLESS a company do it themselves which also equal to bias being one of the factor of debate no matter how positive or negative the report will be.
Example: we KNOW it is a FACT that when a person catches a FLU and go to sleep, during the sleeping hours our B-Cell can produce more 40,000 types of Antibody and how many types of ANTI-BIOTIC now available in the hospital in year 2012?
Did you see a LAB publishing comparison between "Antibody" & "Antibiotic"??? or how about LAB publishing comparisan between Natural Orange Vitamin C & Blacksmore Vitamin C???
don't need to exert the effect of ppar...
so what if it has naturally (allegedly) occuring ppar agonists, (which I doubt)
ppar are receptors specifically made by human ribosomes...how come ppar agonist in algae be of use to human?
Jawapan:
Again, the question was mooted in a way like all the previous question that you'd asked for........
You DOUBT naturall occuring PPAR?? do you KNOW that naturally human have PPAR inside them??
How come PPAR in Algae can be use to HUMAN??? goosh..... why not u explain to me how come MILK from the COW can be use to human? aren't plants protein is 100% more better animal protein for example??
PPAR Receptors are SPECIFICALLY MADE?? my god.......i think it is FAIR to you and also to ME....please READ more about PPAR before u cast any doubt, conclusion and even to a certain extend BIAS view in PPAR before u comment.......a tips for you....
there is DIFFERENCES between PPAR Agonist, PPAR Modulator & PPAR Ligands. Read and understand first....thank you.
those ppar agonists like pioglitazone and fenofibrate have to be constructed by chemical labs...isn't it??
even if those algae have ppar agonists which suits human....those are proteins....once you ingest them, it will be broken down it human's gut to amino acids or smaller peptides....am I right?
unless, unless, it is specifically constructed to be absorbed without being broken down by the gut like pioglitazone or fenofibrate....
Jawapan:
Again all the question somehow or rather goes back to the same pointer which shows you still cannot accept the fact or maybe i fail to show the clearer path......from the question above, let me ask you back EXACTLY the same thing......when something is WHOLESOME like an orange or apple or even rice, do you think it is SPECIFICALLY CONSTRUCTED to be absorb by human body?....sigh....
if it's really effective, we would have seen these crypto algae in hospital use by now for oncology patients....why not?
it's cheap, far cheaper than the likes of 'imatinib' or other chemo agents....who doesn't want cheap drugs??
Jawapan:
hospital will ONLY ALLOW to use medicine or drug or chemical because it is control under the industry call PHARMACEUTICAL NOT Neutraceutical. do u understand the differences between Pharmaceutical & Neutraceutical??
First, open your mind, dont be skeptical and u shall get all the answer u are seeking cos i was ONCE like you, to me all this natural thing is all bullshit but once i have seen the effect and real life experiences that i had with hundreds of my patient i cannot help but have to be humble and KEPT MY MOUTH shut and learn. 
you want me to ask oncologists?...yes I can ask them, indeed they are going to say ppar have some role in cancer....but i doubt they are going to say specifically 'crypto algae' can help improve cancer......
Jawapan:
Again! the same question that shows you still cannot accept the fact.......when you ask what is the best antioxidant in the world, answer will be berries, resveratrol, vitamin c and such.......NO ONE WILL ANSWER its AMWAY acai berry, Red Wine Resveratrol or Sunkist Orange Vitamin C.....sigh.....
well, who am I to argue...Im not from that field...Im just a cardiology registrar....
jawapan:
Its perfectly OK for you to ask more not because u can't argue as a cardiology registrar, even like skeptical and very scientific based person like me, so what.....me too did not see the fact slapping on my face a year ago. |
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innalillah....
salam takziah. |
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x payah gaduh2........sharing ilmu je d sini....sy yg baru 3 minggu kehilangan Mama tersayang pn x kecoh2.......biarla...saling faham memahami, cuma...perlukan penerangan dgn kaedah mudah, sbb manusia ni x sama, masing2 ada proses pemahaman yg berlainan....
well, product ni hanya la supplemnt bukan ubat,,,,well mngkin arwah mak punya kes dah agak terlewat, ya..mmg dah final stage pun, dpt tau product ni pun baru,,,,...mungkin kalau tahu bulan januari thn lepas ok gak..... |
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TAKZIAH BIOSFREE
SAMADA MAMA U AMBIK SETAHUN LEBIH AWAL ATAU HANYA SEBULAN SAHJA
TAPI ITULAH JANJI TUHAN PADA SAAT ITU, SAMPAI MASANYA DIA AKAN PERGI JUGA.
BUKAN BOLEH DILEWAT ATAU DICEPATKAN WALAU SESAAT.
JANGAN KESAL KERNA TAK BAGI SPPLEMENT TU LBH AWAL. |
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dr rakyat...supplemnt ni untuk penyakit gout dan kencing manis bole ke? |
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TAKZIAH BIOSFREE
SAMADA MAMA U AMBIK SETAHUN LEBIH AWAL ATAU HANYA SEBULAN SAHJA
TAPI ITULAH JAN ...
mekja96 Post at 9-1-2012 13:48 
Betul kata2 MekJa.
Takziah Biofree. So jgn sedih2. |
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To All Loyal Customers & Consumers;
Please be informed that the company will be close for CNY from 20th January 2011 until 29th January 2011. The company operation will be resume on the 30th January 2011.
*Should there be any Urgent / Emergency cases arise during the holiday period, please call our (24/7) Helpline at +6016-969 9966.
Hereby, we would like to take this opportunity to wish you a great Happy Chinese New Year 2012 and may the year of the "Water Dragon" brings you Great Opportunity, Abundance Wealth & of course; Excellent Health.
Thank you.
THE MANAGEMENT OF Crypto PPARs (M) Sdn Bhd |
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Reply 192# biosfree
Takziah buat BIOSFREE.. |
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To All Loyal Customers & Consumers;
Please be informed that the company will be close for CNY fro ...
Dr.Rakyat Post at 18-1-2012 14:39
Please be informed that the company will be close for CNY from 20th January 2011 until 29th January 2011. The company operation will be resume on the 30th January 2011? That is the old story,now we are in the year of 2012! Confused.... |
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To All Loyal Customers & Consumers;
Please be informed that the company will be close for CNY fro ...
Dr.Rakyat Post at 18-1-2012 14:39
Dr. Rakyat saya ada masalah penyakit saraf akibat jatuh masa kecil dan juga kesan psikologi,adakah sesuai dgn rawatan ini? Sbb saraf dan kesan psikologi tu bukan masalah baka,kan? What do you say? |
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Please be informed that the company will be close for CNY from 20th January 2011 until 29t ...
servantforever Post at 22-1-2012 13:02 
THANKS for notifying the year error....thank very much |
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Post time 21-12-2011 10:32 PM
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eople still DYING despite makan your product, even die faster" this show how SHALLOW is your mentality in uttering word that of no LOGICAL sense.......IF u think Crypto PPARs made a person die faster then it should be then please go and REPORT to the authority and please back up with your facts! 
