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[SBS] Six Flying Dragons ~ Yoo Ah In, Shin Se Kyung, Kim Myung Min [Part 3]

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mimifa replied at 12-2-2016 11:33 PM
skrg ni dikorea ada lg ke dinasti joseon nih?

Joseon Dynasty...dinasti yg terakhir....


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 Author| Post time 15-2-2016 08:55 AM | Show all posts
List of monarchs of KoreaGojoseon[edit]
Gojoseon (? – 108 BCE) was the first Korean kingdom. According to legend, it was founded by Dangun in 2333 BCE.[1]
Bronze age archaeological evidence of Gojoseon culture is found in northern Korea and Liaoning. By the 9th to 4th century BCE, various historical and archaeological evidence shows Gojoseon was a flourishing state and a self-declared kingdom.
Both Dangun and Gija believed the mythological figures.[2]
Both Gija and Wiman were Chinese.

Buyeo[edit]
Buyeo (c. 2nd century BC – 494 CE) ruled in modern-day Northeast China. Although records are sparse and contradictory, it is speculated that in the 1st century BCE, Dongbuyeo (Eastern Buyeo) branched out, after which the original Buyeo is sometimes referred to as Bukbuyeo (Northern Buyeo). Its remnants were absorbed by the neighboring and brotherhood kingdom of Goguryeo in 494.

Goguryeo[edit]
Goguryeo (37 BC – 668 AD) was one of the Three Kingdoms of Korea. Goguryeo rulers may have used the title of Taewang (太王, "Greatest King"). [1]

Baekje[edit]
Baekje (18 BC – AD 660) was one of the Three Kingdoms of Korea. Temple names were the same as personal names, unless noted otherwise.

Silla[edit]See also: Silla monarchs family tree
Silla (57 BC – 935 CE) was one of the Three Kingdoms of Korea. In the early years, Silla was ruled by the Pak, Seok, and Kim families. Rulers of Silla had various titles, including Isageum, Maripgan, and Daewang. Like some Baekje kings, some declared themselves emperor.

Gaya confederacy[edit]
The Gaya confederacy (42–562) consisted of several small statelets. All rulers of Gaya bore the title Wang ("King").

Balhae[edit]
Balhae (698–926) was an ancient Korean kingdom established after the fall of Goguryeo. Balhae occupied southern parts of Northeast China, Primorsky Krai, and the northern part of the Korean peninsula.

Later Baekje[edit]
Hubaekje (900–936) was founded by Gyeon Hwon, who was a general during Later Silla's period of decline. Thus began the Later Three Kingdoms period. Hubaekje met its downfall at the hands of Gyeon Hwonhimself, who later led the Goryeo armies alongside Taejo of Goryeo to capture Singeom, the prince of Hubaekje, who had betrayed Gyeon Hwon.

Goryeo dynasty[edit]See also: The family tree of the Goryeo monarchs
Goryeo (918–1392) was ruled by the Wang Dynasty. The first ruler had the temple name Taejo, which means "great progenitor", and was applied to the first kings of both Goryeo and Joseon, as they were also the founders of the Wang and Yi Dynasties respectively. Starting with Gwangjong, rulers of Goryeo styled themselves emperors, with the first three rulers elevated to that title posthumously. With the Mongol conquest, however, the title of the ruler was demoted to a king, or "Wang."
The next twenty-three kings (until Wonjong) are also referred to by their temple names, ending in jong. Beginning with Chungnyeol (the twenty-fifth king), all the remaining kings of Goryeo had the title Wang ("King") as part of their temple names. Era names are in bracket where available.

Joseon dynasty[edit]See also: List of Joseon monarchs and Joseon kings family tree
Joseon (1392–1910) followed Goryeo. In 1897, when Joseon became the Korean Empire, some of the Joseon kings were posthumously raised to the rank of emperors.
Joseon monarchs had temple names ending in jo or jong. Jo was given to the first kings/emperors of new lines within the dynasty, with the first king/emperor having the special name (Taejo), which means "great progenitor" (see also Goryeo). Jong was given to all other kings/emperors.
Two kings, Yeonsangun and Gwanghaegun, were not given temple names after their reigns ended.
Each monarch had a posthumous name that included either the title Wang ("King"), Hwangje ("Emperor"), Daewang ("King X the Great"), or Daeje ("Emperor X the Great"). For the sake of consistency, the title "King/Emperor" has been added to each monarch's temple name in the list below.

Korean Empire[edit]
In 1897, Joseon Dynasty became Korean Empire, which lasted until 1910. Technically, the emperors should be referred to by their era names rather than their temple names, but the latter are commonly used.



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Six Flying Dragons Ep. 37~38 Q&A


Q1. I don’t understand who was Lady Ahn a.k.a. Queen Dowager? How comes she had so much power for Yi Seong-Gye’s men could receive a petition from her?

Lady Ahn / Queen Dowager is King Gongmin’s consort. She deposed King U and enthroned King Chang with Yi Saek and Jo Min-Soo in SFD episode 22. She was regarded as the highest member of Goryeo’s royal family at that time, so the ministers petitioned Queen Dowager (Lady Ahn) for the deposition of King Gongyang. She was a puppet of the politicians after all.  


Q2. Why do the princes get other names instead of their real names? Is it like prince 1st, 2nd and etc?

Almost every royal family members in East Asian history have official royal titles beside their full names. For example, here is the names of Goryeo’s last king.

His full name : Wang Yo 왕요 王瑤
His official royal title : Prince Jeongchang 정창군 定昌君
His posthumous name as the king : King Gongyang 공양왕 恭讓王

Likewise, here is the names of Yi Bang-Won.
His full name : Yi Bang-Won 이방원 李芳遠
His official royal title : Prince Jeongan 정안군 靖安君
His posthumous name as the king : King Taejong 태종 太宗

His son, King Sejong the Great
His full name : Yi Do 이도 李裪
His official royal title : Prince Chungnyeong 충녕대군 忠寧大君
His posthumous name as the king : King Sejong 세종 世宗





Q3. Historically, does it then mean Yi Seong-Gye never had any intention of passing the throne to Yi Bang-Won? Was it, as in the drama, because of his hand in Poeun’s death, or simply because he doted on the sons of Queen Sindeok more?

History says Yi Seong-Gye’s first choice was Yi Bang-Beon (the 7th son). We don’t know exactly why he favored him over other grown-up sons. Maybe, as an invincible warrior, Yi Seong-Gye was too much confident that he could choose any son he wanted? Or, he just wanted to start the new dynasty with a pure and innocent prince? Of course, Sageuk drama writers love to describe it as his disappointment about Bang-Won who killed his best friend Poeun, but I’m not sure about this.


Q4. One thing that puzzles me is the abdication of the throne to their successors… first by King Taejo, then even King Taejong did it too. From what I was given to understand, King Taejo’s abdication was due to the horror that his sons would kill each other for the throne after the first Strife of the Princes. Yet, why did King Taejong abdicate 18 years after ascending to the throne, especially since he was still the one who held the real power behind the throne?

King Taejong (Yi Bang-Won) declared abdication 4 times during his reign. It was his scary political tactic to sort out unfaithful subjects. For example, when you hear the king’s abdication news, and if you have an eye on the next heir and try to make a connection with him, you will be purged sooner or later by the King. King Taejong’s successor, Crown Prince Yangnyeong, was caught in such a trap that his maternal uncles from Min clan were executed for that reason. As a result, King Taejong replaced the Crown prince to his 3rd son,Prince Chungnyeong (King Sejong the Great). A few months later, the king really abdicated and set the new Crown prince on the throne in order to prevent any future legitimacy issue. Lest the previous crown prince’s supporters should rebel against the new crown prince, the king enthroned the new Crown prince as the legitimate ruler, although he was holding the actual power behind the throne.


Q5. What is the Hwado Gaekbang? The Mugeuk said that she did not want to use the Hwado Gaekbang but she will have to use it in this case. What is it?

We don’t know yet what Hwado Gaekbang means. In my guess, it is 화도객방 禾刀客房 in Chinese characters.
Hwa (화 禾 “rice”) + Do (도 刀 or 刂 “sword”) =  Yi or Ri (利 “profit, gains”)
Mugeuk (Yeon-Hayng) told Sambong that Nameless’ belief is “Human beings pursue gains, and the world follow their trails”. Therefore, I guess, Hwado is a name related to their Capitalist belief.
Meanwhile, “Gaekbang (客房)“ means ‘guest room’ or 'inn’.
So, I guess it can be Nameless’ secret internal organization disguised as a kind of accommodations.


Q6. Yeon-Hyang also called Cheon-Ji-Bi to enter. I am wondering if it is someone we know with the last name of “Cheon” in it?  

Cheon-Ji-Bi (천지비 天地否) is the code name of Head Monk Geolji of Geumwolsa temple who whispered to Lady Gang (Queen Shindeok) that Bang-Seok should be the King.   

Do you remember the 64 hexagrams to express the cosmological order in ancient Chinese divination text ”Book of Changes“? Cho-Young of Hwasadan was "Ji-Cheon-Tae” (지천태 地天泰) and Monk Jeok-ryong of Biguksa temple was “Poong-Ji-Gwan” (풍지관 風地觀). All of their code names came from the 64 hexagrams. Cheon-Ji-Bi (천지비 天地否) is also one of them.


Q7. I didn’t realize that King Taejo all had sons - no daughters!  His genes are strong!

Hahaha… I’m sorry. King Taejo had many daughters. I just skipped them because my post was all about the Crown prince issue. Here is the list of his daughters.

From Lady Han (Queen Shinui)

  • Princess Gyeongshin 경신공주 慶愼公主
  • Princess Gyeongseon 경선공주 慶善公主

From Lady Gang (Queen Shindeok)

  • Princess Gyeongsoon 경순공주 慶順公主

From Lady Kim (concubine Hwaui)

  • Princess Sookshin 숙신옹주 淑愼翁主

From Lady Joo (concubine)

  • Princess Uiryeong 의령옹주 宜寧翁主

Although I wrote all of them as “princess”, they are different in ranks according to their mother’s rank. A king′s daughter by a queen is called Gong-joo (공주 公主) while a king’s daughter by a concubine is called Ong-joo (옹주 翁主).


Q8. I’m curious about Yi Bang-Ui and Yi Bang-Gan. They are not really mentioned in SFD, but what positions are they holding during the SFD timeline?

King Taejo’s 3rd son Yi Bang-Ui (Prince Yikan) was known as a person with a calm nature. He had a close loving relationship with his brothers. Although he helped Bang-Won in the first strife of Princes, his character is often skipped in historical dramas because he didn’t have a strong personality like his brothers. Unfortunately, I can’t find his government position.  



The 4th son Yi Bang-Gan (Prince Hwaean) was a military officer. He was in charge of Left army in 1392, and the military leader of Northwestern region before he revolted against Yi Bang-Won in the second strife of Princes (1400). After his rebellion ended in failure, he was exiled. King Taejong (Yi Bang-Won) refused to execute Bang-Gan, so he had lived comfortably until he died of an illness.  



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nohas replied at 15-2-2016 01:21 PM
Bang Gan ni ada iras2 Sharnaaz Ahmad...

aah ler nohas..mmg ada persamaan ler
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awatnya rambut MH jd lagu tu..
berserabut betul...
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ayushuhada04 replied at 15-2-2016 08:55 AM
List of monarchs of KoreaGojoseon[edit]Gojoseon (? – 108 BCE) was the first Korean kingdom. Accordi ...

Balhae ni yg ada dlm citer Shine or Go Crazy..
dynasty jg rupanya...ingatkan negara lain..

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nohas replied at 15-2-2016 03:06 PM
awatnya rambut MH jd lagu tu..
berserabut betul...

tp nohas....MH nampak hensem juga..
klu lgi kemas rambut tu..lg bertambah macho kan
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nohas replied at 15-2-2016 03:13 PM
Balhae ni yg ada dlm citer Shine or Go Crazy..
dynasty jg rupanya...ingatkan negara lain..

yes mmg betul ler nohas....dinasti Balhae mmg dari cite Shine and Go Crazy..

dan cite yg dorang adaptasi dari cite cina tu utk versi korea pun
dari dinasti Balhae juga
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Post time 15-2-2016 03:52 PM | Show all posts
ayushuhada04 replied at 15-2-2016 03:41 PM
yes mmg betul ler nohas....dinasti Balhae mmg dari cite Shine and Go Crazy..

dan cite yg dorang ...

cite yang Junki brlakon tu ke..Moon Lover?


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ayushuhada04 replied at 15-2-2016 03:39 PM
tp nohas....MH nampak hensem juga..
klu lgi kemas rambut tu..lg bertambah macho kan

kesian MH & BJ..dari kecik, rambut asik berserabut je..
kalu kemas rmbut MH, dah mcm cendiakawan sungkyunkwan jd nya..
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nohas replied at 15-2-2016 03:56 PM
kesian MH & BJ..dari kecik, rambut asik berserabut je..
kalu kemas rmbut MH, dah mcm cendiak ...

tu le pasal...mmg depa tk sekolah tinggi....hidup pun susah
tkder masa nk berdandan ler nohas...
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nohas replied at 15-2-2016 03:52 PM
cite yang Junki brlakon tu ke..Moon Lover?

yes betul tu nohas...mmg cite Moon Lover....
watak2 yg sama dlm Shine n Go Crazy...
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ayushuhada04 replied at 15-2-2016 03:58 PM
yes betul tu nohas...mmg cite Moon Lover....
watak2 yg sama dlm Shine n Go Crazy...

oo..bukan citer zmn dinasti Goryeo?
ok jg kan, nanti mesti junki kena pakai anting2 ...
dh tengok versi cina, bu bu xing ji, stop at ep15..
entahlah, mcm bosan...
harap2 versi korea ni depa buat lg interesting...
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Edited by ayushuhada04 at 15-2-2016 04:19 PM
nohas replied at 15-2-2016 04:13 PM
oo..bukan citer zmn dinasti Goryeo?
ok jg kan, nanti mesti junki kena pakai anting2 ...
dh ...

ermmm...tp kan dlm cite Shine n Go Crazy...princess tu dari Balhae
means dari negara Balhae...princess yg last dlm dinasti balhae le kan...tp dlm dinasti Goryeo
mcm tu le kan

yes nohas...mmg dari dinasti Goryeo....
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Post time 15-2-2016 04:28 PM | Show all posts
Edited by nohas at 15-2-2016 04:36 PM
ayushuhada04 replied at 15-2-2016 04:18 PM
ermmm...tp kan dlm cite Shine n Go Crazy...princess tu dari Balhae
means dari negara Balhae...pri ...

dlm cite Shine or Go Crazy, dinasti Balhae dah digulingkan
oleh khitans (dinasti Later Baekje)
Balhae royal family lari ke Gaebong, utara korea
org Balhae yg tinggal di Goryeo dh jd hamba
sbb tu princess Balhae yg last tu beli 200++ hamba..

bapa Wang So & pakcik dia yang jahat tu gulingkan khitans
tubuh dinasti Goryeo,
maknanya bapa Wang So tu, King Taejo of Goryeo lah kan..
depa asik refer the First King je..

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