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kamu solat menghadap dan membelakangi kaabah jika bumi ini adalah sfera...... ko nie mmg slow? 
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Lobainita dah habis hujah lah tu, last last bagi tau acong ummah suchi boleh semayam dalam ello plane...ello plane. .
You bila lagi nak semayam dalam ello plane di regent mosque supaya ada excuses tak payah hadap kaabah?
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Oh my good acom, selama ni ummah suchi semayam hala ke langit lah ye?
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lu ingat sembah ultraman kaa? 
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Hello lobainita kaki putar belit satu alam, itu kat isis lah bukan dalam mesjid regent! Lembam tak habis habis!
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Kalau bumi ni macam bola ping ping pong ... Mestilah ummah suchi semayam hala ke langit..macam sembah bintang tu iatu tohan Egyptian kuno tu!
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aku terlupa pasal isu ini..... nie antara sebab yg meyakinkan aku tuhan tu tak wujud
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Last last ummah suchi sembah bulan dan bintang, kan acong kan? Patutlah Kat mesjid ada lambang bulan dan bintang kat atas dome tu.
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tu ciplak ugama hindu punya laa
lu ingat itu sailormoon kaa?
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kat mana saya kata solat tak hadap kaabah?
yes , boleh aje solat dalam plane dari pelbagai arah pun.
bila awak jawab macam ni , ini menunjukkan awak tak tahu langsung pasal hukum solat , tatacara solat.
bezakan lokasi dan arah.
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saya tanya soalan : awak faham tak apa yg awak copy and paste?
awak dah tak tahu beza idol and god
dan tak tahu makna lokasi dan arah
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oh untuk pengetahuan anda oky je solat dalam plane dan berarah ke arah mekah.
kat ISS pun dah boleh dah pun.
kenapa terkejut sangat ?
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bila anda bertanya sebegini nyatalah kepada saya and abuta tentang islam tapi masih berasakan ad ahak bercakap tentang islam?
anda buta pengetahuan tentang ibadat dan tatacara ibadat dalam islam.
tak faham setiap perkataan pun dalam tatacar solat dalam islam dan syarat sah solat solat.
sebab tu anda boleh buat hujah begini.
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makin lama makin terserlah kebebalan ko
Jika bumi ini adalah sfera, bukankah kamu solat membelakangkan Kaabah? 
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kalau berani lah - mana link ?
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Edited by FOTHER-MUCKER at 29-8-2016 08:03 PM
Hello lobai nita lembam. Dalam kapal terbang tu diboleh kan lah. Semayam sambil duduk atas kerusi pun boleh tak payah hadap kaabah. Sekarang ni acong cakap ummah suchi semayam di atas bumi. Lembam tak habis habis tapi nak tunjuk pandai.
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ko nie lembam kaa? cari laa dalam posting aku sebelum nie........
so boleh solat membelakangkan kaabah? 
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Lobai nita ni terlebih minum air kencing hunta sebab tu lembab. Orang dah sampai mukkah 7 kali tawaf kaabah dia baru nak semayam di regent mosque hadap ke langit
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Edited by mbhcsf at 30-8-2016 04:19 AM
Qur'an 2:144
We have seen the turning of thy face to heaven (for guidance, O Muhammad). And now verily We shall make thee turn (in prayer) toward a qiblah which is dear to thee. So turn thy face toward the Inviolable Place of Worship, and ye (O Muslims), wheresoever ye may be, turn your faces (when ye pray) toward it. Lo! Those who have received the Scripture know that (this revelation) is the Truth from their Lord. And Allah is not unaware of what they do.
Qur'an 2:144
This verse tells all Muslims to pray towards the Ka'aba (qiblah being the direction that one has to face in order to do this). This is only possible on a flat earth model. Due to the sphericity of the earth, a prayer in any direction will point towards the sky/outer-space, not Mecca.
For people who are praying a great distance from Mecca, their qiblah would be somewhere down towards the ground, and the people who are located on the opposite 'side' of the earth would have to pray vertically downward towards the center of the earth.
So, for example, Muslims in the Solomon Islands in fact blaspheme against Allah, because they defecate toward the direction of the Ka'aba when they answer the call of nature.
Even if we were to use the traditional Muslim method of determining qiblah (i.e. a great circle) this would still be blasphemous because you would be simultaneously praying with your face and backside aimed towards the Ka'aba.
There is also one point on the opposite 'side' of the earth where any direction for all 360 degrees would be facing 'towards' Mecca and consequently, there would be no one direction that would be the correct one.
In addition to all of the direct evidence we have provided, this is just one of the problems which indirectly indicate that the narrator/writer of the Qur'an believed in a flat earth model.
Top-left: Due to the sphericity of the earth, a prayer in any direction will point towards the sky/outer-space, not Mecca.
Top-right: People who are located on the opposite 'side' of the earth would have to pray vertically down towards the center of the earth, and would also blaspheme against Allah, because they defecate toward the direction of the Ka'aba when they answer the call of nature.
Bottom-left: If we use the traditional Muslim method of determining qiblah (i.e. a great circle) this would still be blasphemous because you would be simultaneously praying with your face and backside aimed towards the Ka'aba.
Bottom-right: There is one point on the opposite 'side' of the earth where any direction for all 360 degrees would be facing 'towards' Mecca and consequently, there would be no one direction that would be the correct one
orang yg bekerja di jabatan ilmu falak boleh gelak je, dengan penjelasan ini.
sampai ambik contoh perbuatan membuang najis yg dikatakan terpaksa ikut Mekah ( as in mecca 's location relative to their country's location )
kalau macam ni punya argument tak payah ambil analogy solomon island yg terletak pada longitude 180degrees east lah something like that
u boleh je ambik rumah org di mekah bebetul kalau terlekat di sekitar masjidil haram... faham tak, u tak payah ambil analogy manusia kat fiji ke suva ke vaniatu ke? marshall island ke...
sebab paling simple - manuisa yg mendiami hotel di mekah dan kedudukan tandas dan bilk mereka? hotel depa depan je , and who knows kedudikan tandas etc ( if the architect and developer developer ada some senses )
adakah mereka dikatkan menghina kaabah apabila depa ke tandas sebab hotel depa sendiri hanya beberapa meter sahaja daripada baitullah?
( oh ya muslims tak sembah kaabah ye , muslim sembah Allah ) i dah kata kaabah tu heavenly axis.
golongan kamu sahaja yg bawa kedudukan kaabah ni semata mata nak tunjukkan islam ni pincang dan tak ke depan dalam science sebab nak sokong hujah kamu yg islam kata ' bumi' ni rata ikut pemahaman ayat ayat anda yg anda bawa. dan kalau bumi flat kedudkan kabaah tu akan jadi okay dan tak terhinalah kaabah sebab penduduk di kepualuan pasifik yg berkedudukan antara 150 degrees east - 180 degrees east tu...
walhal tak faham pun beza lokasi dan arah.
dan kalau ikut pemahaman you susha lah org yg nak terbang pi london ke dari southern hemosphere sebab susah benar nak tentukan kedudukan sesuatu lokasi dengan lokasi lain.
sebab tu i bagi analogy.
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You tu lembam semacam. Acong cakap semayang atas bumi. You nak cerita dalam aeroplane dan di Isis. Macam lah saya tak tau kalau semayam dalam aeroplane tak payah hadap kaabah. Semayam sambil duduk atas kerusi pun dibolehkan.
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Post time 30-8-2016 03:10 AM
