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Post time 20-3-2007 11:49 PM | Show all posts
'Columbus was an explorer, he did not invade.'

And why was he exploring, again? Cortez followed suit and brought influenza that killed so many Aztecs, not to mentioned his mischieves of plundering and kidnapping the King. Man, come to think of it, maybe that was the first recorded kidnapping in history!

Wasnt Cortez the one who was looking for the Fountain of Youth! Isnt that odd!!

[ Last edited by  RainbowSix at 20-3-2007 11:50 PM ]
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Post time 20-3-2007 11:50 PM | Show all posts
the crusades came in response to 400 years of muslim invasion and occupation.
had there not been the jihads, there would not have been a crusade.'

The Muslims were also explorers. Just like Columbus! However, the crusades are a whole different thing. I seem to recall the Europeans wanting to liberate Jerusalem from Saracens. And you actually accuse Muslims of wrongdoings in Palestine!

You are wrong, muslism were invaders thru the jihad ideology.
Columbus himself did not invade or attack indians, it was the people who came after him.




Israel return to their land....why would they leave the land if it was theirs? Because, it wasnt theirs.

The jews have always been there.
The diaspora jews did return because it is their land.
The land do not belong to muslims.





A furtherance to Debmey's theory of historical development, America should be returned to the natives, Israel should not exist, Singapore should be handed over to Msia and.....hahaha! its really funny Deb..

America do belong to the Indians today. What teh hell are you talking about?





Next time, I think you shouldnt be to hasty to accuse others. Even Christians are tempted to commit many ill things.

Muslims did the worst things.
You muslism shld teh teh last people to point fingers at others.
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Post time 20-3-2007 11:54 PM | Show all posts
America do belong to the Indians today. What teh hell are you talking about?

Is it? I recall that they lost all their reservations and were diverted to some distant land which are not even fertile for plantation. The Navajo Nation is just history. I dont see an Indian in the Congress nor in the Senate and definitely not the president. The Constitution doesnt even remotely reflect any remnants of this legacy.

'The jews have always been there.
The diaspora jews did return because it is their land.'

You're just basing this on the Bible. If thats the case, I am sorry that you dont see the need for neighbours to live peacefully.

Deb, I never said Muslims didnt do any wrong.

[ Last edited by  RainbowSix at 21-3-2007 12:11 AM ]
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Post time 20-3-2007 11:58 PM | Show all posts

Reply #199 RainbowSix's post

Dajal ni mmg sahih anti agama kita dan seluruh umatnya. Mmg jenis macam abu jahal ler nih....
P/s R6, objective nil joy so far... recce proceeding...
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Post time 21-3-2007 12:18 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by mat_toro at 20-3-2007 11:48 AM


So that makes it right???

You cant say that febce is built of Palestinian territory, because borders of Palestinian territory are not defined yet.

Dont bet with me... gambling is forbidden in Islam... tell it to Discovery Travel & Living Channel... they said like that...

Gambling is something that involves random luck, like throwing dice or cards. I dont offer any gamble.

Anyway, even Palestinian propaganda sites dont tell anything about "Jewish only neighbohoods" in Tel Aviv.

Here a mosque in center of Tel Aviv:





[ Last edited by  Nick_Perelman at 21-3-2007 12:27 AM ]
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Post time 21-3-2007 12:32 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by mat_toro at 20-3-2007 11:55 AM
The Church of Nativity where Palestinian Christians worship fired upon by Zionists tanks...

The only damage to the Church was urine of Palestinian terrorists:


Church emerges unharmed from siege

Until the intifada, the church was a major tourist attraction



The overwhelming smell of urine was the first thing to hit visitors to Bethlehem's Church of the Nativity after the dramatic and bloody 39-day siege of the compound by the Israeli army

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1981046.stm
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Post time 21-3-2007 12:45 AM | Show all posts
next time terrorists hide in a church, blast it down and rebuilt it later.
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Post time 21-3-2007 03:58 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Debmey at 21-3-2007 00:45
next time terrorists hide in a church, blast it down and rebuilt it later.


Next time when Israeli forces commit its military, make sure you let pple go home safely. So they dont urinate in holy places.
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Post time 21-3-2007 07:08 AM | Show all posts
nope, I say kill em all.
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Post time 21-3-2007 01:50 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Debmey at 20-3-2007 10:22 PM


most of these people are anti terrorism. they may be Christian but they don't support this palestinian thing.

also, there are ahrdly any christians left among the palestinians cos they have been oppressed by muslims who treat them as second class citizens....


This is hilarious...

Firstly it shows he dunno what the "alestinian thing" is about thus he referred to it as that.

Next he says they're treated like 2nd class citizens... Ha! Ha! What d齛 think the zionists have been doing??
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Post time 21-3-2007 01:56 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Nick_Perelman at 21-3-2007 12:18 AM

You cant say that febce is built of Palestinian territory, because borders of Palestinian territory are not defined yet.


Gambling is something that involves random luck, like throwing dice ...


So without any clearly defined agreements you go ahead and do whatever you wish... that makes it right??

Watch the program if you have the chance... It didn't say the entire of Tel Aviv... it said certain quarters only... And yeah... build a mosque and claim to be liberal... it dont matter if you kill Arabs on a daily basis... "Look! We already built a mosque!  Now get off our backs and let us kill Arabs as usual!"... Ha! Ha! Hypocrisy!!
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Post time 21-3-2007 02:05 PM | Show all posts

Reply #206 Nick_Perelman's post

Reading between the lines eh??

Priests said some of the gunmen and foreign activists had initially slept there because it was the warmest spot, but had been persuaded to leave so that daily services could be held there.

One priest complained that foreigners who had slipped in during the siege had desecrated the church by smoking and drinking alcohol.


Now tell me... aren't there non-Muslim peaceniks running around in Palestine??  Does Islam allow Muslims to consume alcohol??  Would hardcore non-Muslim hating terrorists adhere to requests for them to move as to allow a non-Muslim prayer service to be held??  

Blinded by hatred and too quick to criticize you forgot to read it through...
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Post time 21-3-2007 02:26 PM | Show all posts

Reply #212 mat_toro's post

What did I tell you MT, the guy is a nut case, seriously Dweeb get out while you can.
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Post time 21-3-2007 02:36 PM | Show all posts
You are wrong, muslism were invaders thru the jihad ideology.
Columbus himself did not invade or attack indians, it was the people who came after him.


Columbus was sent by King Ferdinand to find new lands to plunder and eventually forcefully converted pple. Those are facts. Furthermore, Columbus's discovery of America paved the way for Cortez and others after him to follow suit. Thats another fact. Spain after 1492, as a nation felt it was its duty to spread Chrisitianity by means of conquest and forceful conversion of natives and at the same time plunder for wealth. Those are historical facts.

In their pursuit of wealth and expansionism, Spain had managed to destroy the Aztec civilization, the natives in America and at the same time forced these natives to convert. Spain and its blood thurst for conquest is just one example.

In summation, despite your contempt of Islam and Muslims, you forget that even Christianity was an expansionist religion. And how is it with your hatred for others show that you're embracing a religion which is supposedly emphasises love for all?

The point is, religion is not the problem here.

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 Author| Post time 21-3-2007 02:53 PM | Show all posts
I remember watching National Geographic on Astro that it was the Chinese who discovered America 70 years before Columbus....

Suffice to say, it was the muslim who first discovered America

http://www.asiawind.com/hakka/zheng_he.htm
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Post time 21-3-2007 03:13 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by RainbowSix at 21-3-2007 02:36 PMYou are wrong, muslism were invaders thru the jihad ideology.Columbus himself did not invade or attack indians, it was the people who came after him. Columbus was sent by King Ferdinand to  ...
First of all, you claim that Columbus was an invader. That is not true. columbus himself was an explorer, not invader.Yes, there were Christians who were inavders of lands, but thats not endorsed by Christianity.That is different from Islam where muslims are taught to spread islam by teh sword and jihad is part of the religion.
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Post time 21-3-2007 03:22 PM | Show all posts

Reply #215 ef/x's post

This was the book entitled '1424 The Year China Discovered The World'.
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Post time 21-3-2007 03:43 PM | Show all posts

Reply #216 Debmey's post

It is a misconstrued doctrine, analysed wrongly and capitalised by foreign media for propaganda. A further indepth study in its essence and application would dispel these misconceptions.
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 Author| Post time 21-3-2007 04:11 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Debmey at 21-3-2007 03:13 PM
...different from Islam where muslims are taught to spread islam by teh sword and jihad is part of the religion.


Muslims were the lords of Arabia for 1400 years. For a few years the British ruled, and for a few years the French ruled. Overall, the Muslims ruled Arabia for 1400 years. Yet today, there are 14 million Arabs who are Coptic Christians (Christians since generations). If the Muslims had used the sword there would not have been a single Arab who would have remained a Christian.

Indonesia is the biggest muslim country in the world...... and tell me which muslim army came & convert Indonesian or Malaysian to Islam ?

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Post time 21-3-2007 04:49 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by ef/x at 21-3-2007 04:11 PM


Muslims were the lords of Arabia for 1400 years. For a few years the British ruled, and for a few years the French ruled. Overall, the Muslims ruled Arabia for 1400 years. Yet today, there ar ...


yeah thats right....good explanation....good point...i love you ef/x but the dumb will be more dumber
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