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[Tempatan] Siti Hasmah: Suami larang saya bertudung. #31 Laman pro-Najib menyelar Siti Hasm

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Post time 6-12-2017 05:52 PM | Show all posts
OrenTheReturn replied at 5-12-2017 06:38 PM
Kebodohan ko ni tahap sampah sgt lobai oii

tak abis2 poyo merata alam ni... hang ni sampah ka manusia? huhuhu

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Post time 6-12-2017 07:28 PM | Show all posts
cecari replied at 6-12-2017 05:52 PM
tak abis2 poyo merata alam ni... hang ni sampah ka manusia? huhuhu

Bangsatt sorg ni tak habis2 lagi
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Post time 7-12-2017 12:49 AM | Show all posts
borrow replied at 6-12-2017 12:45 AM
Org tua vley tanggalkan jilbab , so org muda wajib pakai ?

Soalan sis tu nanti Red jawab ya..

Red tahu yg sis tahu tentang Hijab tapi utk yg masih belum tahu lagi..

Mari kita fahamkan tentang Ruling dan maksud Hijab, Jilbab dan Khimar.








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Post time 7-12-2017 07:42 AM | Show all posts
OrenTheReturn replied at 6-12-2017 07:28 PM
Bangsatt sorg ni tak habis2 lagi

hang ni mentaliti sampah. kat forum pun nak buat sampah. get a life la woi
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Post time 7-12-2017 08:35 AM | Show all posts
dodolgemokgila replied at 24-11-2017 10:08 AM
Setuju sis. Yg sorang lgi muka bengis menakutkan. Mesti cucu2 dia menangis tgok nenek sebegitu. Ka ...

bengis2 sis rossy  beliyau pakai henbeg birkin choul...ko hado?

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Post time 7-12-2017 08:35 AM | Show all posts
cecari replied at 6-12-2017 11:42 PM
hang ni mentaliti sampah. kat forum pun nak buat sampah. get a life la woi

itulah akibat terlalu byk menadah terung congo dekkk

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Post time 7-12-2017 09:35 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Modngengade replied at 7-12-2017 08:35 AM
bengis2 sis rossy  beliyau pakai henbeg birkin choul...ko hado?

Apalah sgat nilai henbeg tu dgan kehidupan normal dan tak takut pd bayang2 sendiri. Sorry sis, money is not everything.
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Post time 7-12-2017 09:44 AM | Show all posts
dodolgemokgila replied at 7-12-2017 01:35 AM
Apalah sgat nilai henbeg tu dgan kehidupan normal dan tak takut pd bayang2 sendiri. Sorry sis, mon ...

kann.... i lap you sister....falsampah hidup kita sama

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Post time 7-12-2017 10:54 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Modngengade replied at 7-12-2017 09:44 AM
kann.... i lap you sister....falsampah hidup kita sama

Muahciked lap u, sep kopek.
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Post time 7-12-2017 12:30 PM | Show all posts
hasmah tak pakai tudung pon korang kecoh...
ada yg beseleraka nengok nek hasmahhh

cer kome2 suh pajura ke janna nick ke pakai tudung
adala logik sikit..

choii sgt acik kepam lobainita takdo bahan umpatannnn
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Post time 7-12-2017 12:34 PM | Show all posts
by da wayy yg kome rope tekejut berok Tun M tak bg pakei tudong tu dah kenapa??
besepah member akak jenis laki tak bg pakai tudong...
tiada yg mengherankan species laki sebegini...

tolonglah acik kepam besosiallah sikitttttttt....jumpa la kesah sebenar..kenapa dan mengapa wujud lelaki sedemikian....dah kome dapek laki bg pakai tudung tu sokor jek la...toksah nak wat kekwat sangat...
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Post time 7-12-2017 01:06 PM | Show all posts
Redskin replied at 7-12-2017 12:49 AM
Soalan sis tu nanti Red jawab ya..

Red tahu yg sis tahu tentang Hijab tapi utk yg masih belum t ...

ok. Coz iayam konpius. Ai dgr ceramah radio setaz kata tudung. Setaz azri & Azhar pun kata tudung. And if tengok ayat Annur tu.



thiyabunna = pakaian. Bila tafsir word "luar" ditambah.

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Post time 7-12-2017 01:33 PM | Show all posts
So tudung bukan pakaian ker?
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Post time 7-12-2017 02:20 PM | Show all posts
Muntz replied at 7-12-2017 01:33 PM
So tudung bukan pakaian ker?

pakaian ler. pakaian muslimah = baju & tudung. Setaz kita ( ceramah2 yg ai dgr) mentafsir , wanita tua diberi kelonggaran berpakaian iaitu tak perlu bertudung.

Tp Redskin kata ayat tu khas utk Pakaian (Luar)= Jilbab. Tudung & baju tetap kena pakai.

Gitulah ai faham. So now ai is fening
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Post time 7-12-2017 10:28 PM | Show all posts
guesswho09 replied at 26-11-2017 08:52 PM
kat klcc ka?
nmpk kete dia depan twin towers
2-3 hari lepas

yup.... pergi DFP rasanya....



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Post time 8-12-2017 01:18 AM | Show all posts
Edited by Redskin at 8-12-2017 01:23 AM
borrow replied at 7-12-2017 01:06 PM
ok. Coz iayam konpius. Ai dgr ceramah radio setaz kata tudung. Setaz azri & Azhar pun kata tudung. ...

Sis silap dengar kot…MUSTAHIL dan tak percayala  DrMaza or Ustaz Azhar Idrus kata begitu.


Kalau Olamak tersohor Mesia SIS Zainah Anwar atau Olarmak Amina Wadud yg cakap
wanita tak payah pakai tudung..Red percaya...


thiyabunna = pakaian. Bila tafsir word "luar" ditambah.

Dlm Translations, perkataan dlm kurungan  itu adalah utk PEMAHAMAN maksud sebenar
ayat2 Al Quran supaya org tak keliru.


Kalau mengikut translation sis dimana dlm bracket (luar) dikeluarkan, maka ayat itu adalah seperti berikut.




And women of post-menstrual age who have no desire formarriage - there is no blame upon them for putting aside their garments [but] notdisplaying adornment. But to modestly refrain [from that] is better for them.And Allah is Hearing and Knowing. (An Nur: 60)

Dan mana-mana perempuan tua yang telah putus kedatangan haid,yang tidak mempunyai harapan berkahwin lagi maka tidak ada salahnya mereka menanggalkan pakaiannya, dengan tidak bertujuan mendedahkan perhiasan mereka;dalam pada itu perbuatan mereka menjaga kehormatannya (dengan tidakmenanggalkan pakaian luarnya itu adalah) lebih baik bagi mereka; dan (ingatlah)Allah Maha Mendengar, lagi Maha Mengetahui. (An-Nur:60)




Kalau ayat tersebut Allah SWT membenarkan wanita2 tua tak perlu pakai Tudung.

1. Adakah wanita tua tidak perlu menutup aurat rambutnya memakai telekung ketika Solat ?.
    Adakah kelonggaran disini? Mengapa Tidak??

2. Kalau ayat tu mengatakan/bermaksud tak perlu memakai tudung, mengapa TIADA perkataan Arab " Khumur/Khimar" disitu ???

3. Adakah ayat ini menyuruh membenarkan wanita tua BOGEL menanggalkan pakaian mereka ???
    As u know, 1400 tahun dahulu belum ada bra mahu pon panties.


4. Bagaimana dgn tidak berpakaian dapat tidak mendedahkan perhiasan mereka ???

5. Adakah logik cara translation sis dgn membuang perkataan dlm kurungan (LUAR) ???



Abu Dawud recorded that Ibn `Abbas said that the Ayah:
﴿وَقُللِّلْمُؤْمِنَـتِ يَغْضُضْنَ مِنْ أَبْصَـرِهِنَّ﴾
(And tell the believing women to lower their gaze) ﴿24:31﴾ was abrogated and an exception was made in the case of:
﴿وَالْقَوَاعِدُ مِنَ النِّسَآءِ الَّلَـتِى لاَ يَرْجُونَ نِكَاحاً﴾
(the past childbearing among women who do not hope for marriage, .)
﴿فَلَيْسَ عَلَيْهِنَّ جُنَاحٌ أَن يَضَعْنَ ثِيَابَهُنَّ﴾
(it is no sin on them if theydiscard their (outer) clothing) Ibn Mas`ud said about (outer) clothing,,"The Jilbab or Rida'.''




A similar view was also narrated from Ibn `Abbas, Ibn `Umar, Mujahid, Sa`id binJubayr, Abu Ash-Sha`tha', Ibrahim An-Nakha`i, Al-Hasan, Qatadah, Az-Zuhri,Al-`Awza`i and others.
﴿غَيْرَ مُتَبَرِّجَـتِ بِزِينَةٍ﴾
(in such a way as not to showtheir adornment.) Sa`id bin Jubayr said, "They should not make a wanton display of themselves by removing their outer garment so that their adornment may be seen.''
﴿وَأَن يَسْتَعْفِفْنَ خَيْرٌ لَّهُنَّ﴾
(But to refrain is better forthem.) means, not removing their outer garment, even though that is permissiblefor them, is better for them.


Sedangkan Sahabat2 Nabi SAW, para2 pentafsir Al Quran Terkenal dan Imam2 Besar telah
mentafsirkan ayat tersebut bermaksud Outer garment (Pakaian Luar).


C’mon sis...tak perlu fening2, you’re smart enough...


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Post time 8-12-2017 01:33 AM | Show all posts
Edited by Redskin at 8-12-2017 01:35 AM
borrow replied at 7-12-2017 02:20 PM
pakaian ler. pakaian muslimah = baju & tudung. Setaz kita ( ceramah2 yg ai dgr) mentafsir , wanita ...

wanita tua diberi kelonggaran berpakaian iaitu tak perlu bertudung.

Tp Redskin kata ayat tu khas utk Pakaian (Luar)= Jilbab. Tudung & baju tetap kena pakai.

Bukan Red yg cakap, saya cuma sampaikan apa pendapat Sahabat2 Nabi SAW, para2 pentafsir
Al Quran Terkenal dan pendapat Imam2 Besar tentang maksud ayat tersebut.


Why not you mintak kat Ustaz/Ustazah yg kata wanita tua tak perlu pakai Tudung
utk kemukakan BUKTI ayat2 Al Quran yg kata begitu dan sampaikan Hujah Redskin kpdnya.


Semoga dapat pencerahan.
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Post time 8-12-2017 08:59 AM | Show all posts
Redskin replied at 8-12-2017 01:18 AM
Sis silap dengar kot…MUSTAHIL dan tak percayala  DrMaza or Ustaz Azhar Idrus kata begitu.

Kala ...

Tada la sampai stress.Ai ske bincang2 cam ni

1. Adakah wanita tua tidak perlu menutup aurat rambutnya memakai telekung ketika Solat ?.
    Adakah kelonggaran disini? Mengapa Tidak??
Fazura & Fatah berkahwin. Sheols x perlu tutup aurat dpn shuben dh. Sheol tetap kena pakai telekong jika bersolat kan?


2. Kalau ayat tu mengatakan/bermaksud tak perlu memakai tudung, mengapa TIADA perkataan Arab " Khumur/Khimar" disitu ???
Ayat tu juga tak tulis "jilbab"

3. Adakah ayat ini menyuruh membenarkan wanita tua BOGEL menanggalkan pakaian mereka ???
    As u know, 1400 tahun dahulu belum ada bra mahu pon panties.
kan ada letak syarat. Kompem la tak suh bogel.

AND [know that] women advanced in years, who no longer feel any sexual desire,
incur no sin if they discard their [outer] garments, provided they do not aim at a showy display of [their] charms.
But [even so,] it is better for them to abstain [from this]: and God is all-hearing, all-knowing.
- asad

Such elderly women as are past the prospect of marriage there is no blame on them if they lay aside their (outer) garments
provided they make not a wanton display of their beauty:
but it is best for them to be modest: and Allah is One Who sees and knows all things.
- yusuf ali


4. Bagaimana dgn tidak berpakaian dapat tidak mendedahkan perhiasan mereka ???


5. Adakah logik cara translation sis dgn membuang perkataan dlm kurungan (LUAR) ???
Maksud ai , ayat tu tak spesifik. Hanya "pakaian" . Tak sebut khimar or jilbab . Terbuka utk tafsiran.





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Post time 8-12-2017 09:00 AM | Show all posts
Redskin replied at 8-12-2017 01:18 AM
Sis silap dengar kot…MUSTAHIL dan tak percayala  DrMaza or Ustaz Azhar Idrus kata begitu.

Kala ...

Ni 2 vid kat utube.








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Post time 8-12-2017 09:02 AM | Show all posts

problem is, dari muda dia tak bertudung. dari muda dilarang bertudung.

hal senang pun mahu belit2 tepek video konon pandai agama.




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