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[HORA] BROKEN VOW - LIVE VERSION (RECORDED ON 02ND. JUNE 2009)

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 Author| Post time 23-3-2008 06:52 PM | Show all posts
Assalamualaikum...

aku rasa free sangat, so aku nak comment part by part lagu My Baby You...

first of all, bila start je lagu benda yang bermain di fikiran aku ialah, DICTION....aku tau aku punya diction pun tahap sampah, but you shouldn't pronounce "DON'T" as "DUN"...dan banyak lagi perkataan
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 Author| Post time 23-3-2008 07:00 PM | Show all posts
Oh ...lupa....yg pasal falsetto....HAVE tu bagi sham tinggi snagat.....tak tercapai vokal ku...hee..he
tu sebab guna falsetto....well, ada cara bagaimana nak nyanyi guna full voice menggantikan falsetto....antaranya 90 % and 10 % rule when singing the upper note..sham x guna teknik ni...teknik ni 90% ikut hidung /bumbung mulut dan 10% udara ikut mulut ( Jeffrey Allen : The secret of singing)

Originally posted by sham159 at 23-3-2008 06:52 PM
Assalamualaikum...

aku rasa free sangat, so aku nak comment part by part lagu My Baby You...

first of all, bila start je lagu benda yang bermain di fikiran aku ialah, DICTION....aku tau aku ...
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Post time 23-3-2008 07:05 PM | Show all posts

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sham ambik course music ke kat universiti??
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Post time 23-3-2008 07:21 PM | Show all posts
byk tol terminology abg sham
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 Author| Post time 25-3-2008 04:11 PM | Show all posts
Saya tahu sikit sikit jeerk...

Sekrg ni Sham tengah belajar vokal....(ini belajar vokal kaedah yang lain lak : vokal ni banyak teknik)

Sham akan upload lagu lagu selepas habis belajar vokal ini..

tunggu........................

Originally posted by seroja at 23-3-2008 07:21 PM
byk tol terminology abg sham
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 Author| Post time 25-3-2008 04:14 PM | Show all posts
Sham ambil kursus lain masa study kat universiti dulu.....

tapi sham banyak tahu dan belajar vokal....

sekrg ni tengah belajar teknik vokal terbaru....sham mula belajar sejak hari isnin lepas....dalam sebulan kena habis.....
lepas tu akan rakam balik lagu2 baru dan lagu lagu yg x puas hati dgn teknik terbaru ni...

tunggu.........................
Originally posted by Leybra at 23-3-2008 07:05 PM
sham ambik course music ke kat universiti??
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Post time 25-3-2008 04:18 PM | Show all posts

Reply #225 sham159's post

ok sham....aku memang tahu semua yang kau cakapkan kat atas feedback comment aku tu...cuma aku ni memang tak pernah pon belajar vocal...

kalau boleh, kau comment lagu aku, boleh tyak?????

nak jugak baca komen dari orang yang attend formal vocal class, baru boleh improve...
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Post time 25-3-2008 06:04 PM | Show all posts
haruskah thread ni pun ikut mendap jugak???
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Post time 10-4-2008 01:07 PM | Show all posts
thread mendap? heh.. mana sham xbuat rakaman kat studio lagi? pingu tringin sgt nak masuk studio.. nak gak tau cemana rakaman dibuat..
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Post time 10-4-2008 04:51 PM | Show all posts

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too bad dorang tak buat process mastering...kalau tak mesti macam lagu dalam album...
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 Author| Post time 18-4-2008 06:55 PM | Show all posts

I'AM BACK!!

aSKUM SEMUA..,

Apa khabar?....agak lama sham x masuk board ni..busy sangat...
ok...sham ingin berkongsi maklumat berkaitan teknik teknik vokal yg mungkin kita boleh gunakan bersama sama..mungkin kita improve suara kita...sham tak nak share dengan diri sendiri je.....

Seelok eloknya kalau low note kita elakkan dari gunakan breathy tone..kita harus gunakan our full voice yakni kita punya chest voice..tapi kita softkan suara kita ikut lah...cara dinamik kita macam mana kan? Seperti nasihat /pandangan dari guru vokal yg kat bawah....satu lagi.....banyak komen guru vokal ni macam komen Alyana...sham rasa mesti Alyana ni guru vokal...rasanya lah...

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A few thoughts, first let me say you have a nice voice.

Personally, I think you could stand to relax into your chest voice more. The tone is too nasally/masky for my taste. Also back off all that vibrato, it sounds contrived and labored. I'm not into vibrato so take what I say with a grain of salt. Watch the pitch.

Keep searchin' man, you're on the right track. We're all in this together. I started back training with my coach and am very excited about singing again.

Sing with vigor!

Peace

James
Hollywood, CA USA

p.s. Also watch singing 'Da Reason', it's 'The Reason'. Using a 'Da' sound for 'The' will kill you in the American market...

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If you were in my studio and I was coaching you on this tune... I would ask you to get more full resonance in the lower/verses... a thicker, stronger "croon"... a richer sound that you can get if you blow more air and get more vocal fold closure... the breathy "thing" is good for a few words or bars of music... but its always better to hear a real, full tone as your foundation.  Using the "breathy" sound as an embellishment.... when you go to the choruses... lets go man!!  Blow some air and get move some volume... Im not suggesting you scream like a metal singer, but lets hear a BIG, PASSIONATE, GET MY ATTENTION sound...

In my opinion, its too sleepy... I know these are ballads, but that doesnt mean that the vocal execution has to be sleeping at the wheel... get up, blow some air and give us a volume and full tone that says, "Im ****** serious about what Im singing about and listen to this... Im passionate, heart-broken, In love"... what ever the message is... even when its a ballad, KICK OUR BUTTS!

You do have a very lovely voice and great potential... your just not letting it out enough.

Exactly Ray.

... in my opinion.

Robert Lunte,
Seattle, WA USA

Originally posted by sham159 at 19-3-2008 11:05 AM
Assalamualaikum semua..
Sham nak berkongsi maklumat dengan semua berkaitan diskusi dengan guru-guru vokal dari U.S..Nama dia Lana Mountford ,Dr. Dean dan lain lain..mungkin ilmu ni kita leh kong ...
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Post time 18-4-2008 08:37 PM | Show all posts

Reply #231 sham159's post

dah mcm pengacara pun ade bahasa ko ni sham
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Post time 19-4-2008 01:22 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by shuffeak at 18-4-2008 08:37 PM
dah mcm pengacara pun ade bahasa ko ni sham



u tak kenal sham ye
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Post time 19-4-2008 01:35 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by sham159 at 18-4-2008 06:55 PM
aSKUM SEMUA..,

Apa khabar?....agak lama sham x masuk board ni..busy sangat...
ok...sham ingin berkongsi maklumat berkaitan teknik teknik vokal yg mungkin kita boleh gunakan bersama sama..mung ...



honestly i bukan guru vokal. i used to join band, sehinggalah i terpaksa quit, sbb i slow dlm study. but my frens still go on. but i used to karaoke pakai duit tajaan
but around me, byk la org2 yg mcm u all ni. tak kiralah lelaki atau perempuan. apa2pun pokoknya, kita kena tahu ttg diri sendiri.

sbb pasal pendapat, semua org boleh lahirkan pendapat. so kita ikut majoriti . sbb end of the day, yg vote penyanyi terbaik grammy pun ikut majority kannn , i mean thier league of juri juri tu.   but biasanya bab pitching2 ni mmg clear cut. begitu juga bab diction, itu pun clear cut. cuma dynamic, emotion and connection tu agak subjective sebenarnya. itu my opinion  laa.

anyway, bagi i, kalau suara ala2 softy, baik join band. a solo vocalist perlukan keunikan. kalau tak unik kena power. but ni pun subjective kan

whatever it is, sepanjang perjalanan ku ,kategori pejuang vocalist ni mcm ni
1. yg sedang belajar, tak kiralah kelas vocal atau belajar sendiri. so biasanya kalau nyanyi tu, mmg toot la.kat board ni pun ada yg species ni.
2. yg better dr level 1. sbb dah kenal suara sendiri, tp masih byk silap. kat sini pun ada kat bod ni.
3. aware yg diri byk silap, so dia ambik keputusan tiru penyanyi asal bulat2. but tak unik. kalau makcik2 kat kampung tu dgr, sure dia terpegun sbb org tu boleh nyanyi sebijik mcm siti, sebjik mcm Imran Ajmain, sebijik mcm anuar Zain.but kalau kat urban, atau dikalangan org2 muzik, nyanyilah sesedpa manapun makhluk ni, but they will never gain respect! kat bod ni pun ada.
4. mula berani , create identiti sendiri, tp byk masalah vocal, yelah, sbb dia kena bereksperimen dgn vocal sendiri kan. akhirnya, kalau tak diawasi, or tanpa guru, dia akan confuse dgn teknik2 vocal dia sendiri . But org akan respect, sbb we paham apa yg dia cuba lakukan dan apa yg dia cuba lalui. kat bod ni pun ada.

5. yg da jumpa identiti diri sendiri. and dah boleh control vocal dg baik. maka lahirkah penyanyi yg hebat.


agak2nya u all mungkin boleh kategorikan sapa kat level 1 to 5 kan . but itu from my journey, maybe someone akan kata nonsense, but well, ada org yg pi kelantan hanya nampak lembu2. tp i pergi kelantan, i nampak papan iklan org2 semua2 bertudung.
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Post time 19-4-2008 01:40 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by sham159 at 25-3-2008 04:14 PM
Sham ambil kursus lain masa study kat universiti dulu.....

tapi sham banyak tahu dan belajar vokal....

sekrg ni tengah belajar teknik vokal terbaru....sham mula belajar sejak hari isnin  ...



u ni mengingatkan i kpd sorg forumer. si stonehead tu, dia pun sama mcm u juga. akhirnya dia confuse dgn teknik dia sendiri. akhirnya, jd caca merba. but lain org lain belalang kannnn. cuma hope  u berwaspada la.
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Post time 19-4-2008 03:27 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by alyana at 19-4-2008 01:35 AM



honestly i bukan guru vokal. i used to join band, sehinggalah i terpaksa quit, sbb i slow dlm study. but my frens still go on. but i used to karaoke pakai duit tajaan
but around me, by ...

aku rasa aku level 1 lagi...jauh ketinggalan...
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 Author| Post time 19-4-2008 06:10 PM | Show all posts
Oh.. ..so you bekas penyanyi band ker?..wah bagus dan hebat tu...
Sham sekrg belajar teknik nyanyian yang berbeza dengan teknik yang sham belajar sebelum ini..

memang masa belajar teknik nyanyian sebelum ini..,sham ada banyak masalah..sebab belajar sendiri..pasti ada kesilapan kesilapan yang tak perasan....contohnya macam bagaimana ingin menyebut perkataan 'AKU','UP' dan lain-lain..ada guru yg berkata kita sebut perkataan Aku  guna 'UH' dan ada yg kata guna 'AH'....ada juga yg kata sebut 'UH' tapi imagine 'AH'...ada juga mengatakan tak payah imagine atau sebut AH sebab itu splat vowels.....macam macam pandangan...sham pun jadi blurr....betul seperti kata you...itu sebab sham kena tanya guru vokal yang betul2 expert...sampai sekrg sham menghasapi masalh ini...

tapi semenjak sham guna teknik terbaru ni...sham dibimbing secara konsisten oleh Andreas ...dia suruh sham inform dia perkembangan sham dari masa ke semasa bila praktis teknik ni...dia suruh sham tanya kalau ada yg masih kabur. Beruntung sangat dia nak membantu..kalau nak harap sesetengah org melayu kita ni entahlah....tambah lak benda benda free ni..mereka tak nak....................... ..sham ada satu cerita......................tahun 2006 sham ada ajak Safri Saad guru vokal ..ala kawan hazami tu....ke pusat karaoke kat plaza ampang..untuk mendengar kualiti vokal sham....

After few days later..., Sham called dia melalui handphone nak minta pendapat ttg teknik vokal.....amboi....you know...dia tak senang hati dan tegur sham kata lebih kurang begini " tak elok tanya ...orang cari rezeki melalui ilmu ni"

maknanya sham tak sesuai tanya kat dia secara free ttg ilmu nyanyian sebab dia ajar org secara berduit....kiranya no money no talk la...semenjak itu bila called macam x nak angkat...so...i terus deleted no dia.

alhamdulliah..sekrg ni ilmu sham walaupun x banyak...boleh lah juga ilmu tu diaplikasikan dalam nyanyian...

terima kasih pada Andreas, Dr pamelia dll yg sudi tunjuk ajar...............

Originally posted by alyana at 19-4-2008 01:35 AM



honestly i bukan guru vokal. i used to join band, sehinggalah i terpaksa quit, sbb i slow dlm study. but my frens still go on. but i used to karaoke pakai duit tajaan
but around me, by ...
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i lategori manew?
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Post time 19-4-2008 06:50 PM | Show all posts
oja kategori yg disayangi...
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Post time 23-4-2008 06:14 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by seroja at 19-4-2008 06:35 PM

i lategori manew?

oja kategori 5....jauhnya meninggalkan abg...
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