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Malaikat Jatuh Cinta...

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Post time 14-10-2008 12:34 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by limau at 14-10-2008 11:49 AM
aku rasa aku pernah baca kisah malaikat yg jatuh cinta, akhirnyer dia dihukum allah... tp aku dah lupa kat mana aku baca..


masa ko nak tido kot
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Post time 14-10-2008 12:39 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by mac_taylor at 14-10-2008 12:31 PM


Klu ko rasa mcm gitu, maka jadiklah ia cite khayalan bagi engko...
Buleh print jadikan buku pastu baca sblm nak tido yer...      


memula camtu lar tapi bila ada teori malaikat tu nature force etc
jadi citer sains fiksyen lar

sorry lar, aku mengarut kat thread ko ni, takde info lar pasal benda ni
mungkin yg lain leh tambah lagi.
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Post time 14-10-2008 03:46 PM | Show all posts

Reply #228 putragold's post

betul lah... ko ni main2 lak...
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Post time 14-10-2008 04:18 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by limau at 14-10-2008 03:46 PM
betul lah... ko ni main2 lak...


maaf yer, i tersengaja
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Post time 14-10-2008 04:21 PM | Show all posts
ada satu pertanyaan, boleh ke malaikat bercinta?

ada point menarik kat sini

As against the Quranic view explained above, almost in every country the commonly held view about angels among followers of various religions is more on the pattern of fairy tales than of them belonging to a celestial form of existence. They are said to have wings like birds or fairies, flapping them about as they fly from place to place. This misconcept is perhaps born out of over- much literalising of religious terminology, which is cryptic and has, most often, metaphorical allusions. Thus we also find mention in the Holy Quran of wings in relation to angels, which speaks of them as having wings in twos, threes and fours:

All praise belongs to Allah the Maker of the heavens and the earth, Who employs the angels as messengers, having wings, two, three and four. Surah Al-Fatir (Ch. 35, v. 2)

The Holy Quran has a very special style of elucidating all such passages where there lies a danger of obscurity -- it does this with the help of other similar usages. About the wings, for instance, we also find these mentioned in relation to a son's attitude towards his elderly parents. Building this subject, the Holy Quran admonishes the son to lower his wing of mercy over his parents, as they brought him up from the time of his infancy. 'Wing' only means attributes and powers, and we believe it is in this sense that wings are attributed to angels, or to persons claiming divine manifestation from among the various religions. For instance, in Gita, Krishna is known to have possessed four arms instead of two. There the extra pair of arms serve the same purpose as the wings found in other divine books.

Angels are responsible for controlling and maintaining the laws of nature. Virus and bacteria are governed, organised and maintained by specific angels, who work in harmony with each other to maintain a perfect balance. Similarly, eco-systems are not accidental or chaotic, but are regulated by the invisible, spiritual beings that we call angels.


artikel penuh http://www.alislam.org/books/study-of-islam/angels.html
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Post time 14-10-2008 04:46 PM | Show all posts

Reply #231 putragold's post

bukan malaikat bercinta , tp yg aku baca tu.. dia diberikan allah nafsu .. sebab sebelum ni dia ada menyoal kenapa manusia asyik membuat maksiat dan melanggar perintah allah...

jadi allah berikan dia rasa nafsuseperti satu ujian .... dan akhirnyer dia pon tewas sama seperti manusia lain..

[ Last edited by  limau at 14-10-2008 04:47 PM ]
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Post time 15-10-2008 12:24 PM | Show all posts
Perempuan cantik tu bukan bernama Sarah tetapi Zahrah.Menurut kepercayaan lama orang-orang Arab ,perempuan cantik tu telah dihukum dan ditukar oleh Allah menjadi Planet Zuhrah.Kedua malaikat tu pula telah dipasung secara terbalik.Menurut ceritanya lagi Kedua-dua malaikat tersebut bukan hairan dengan sikap cinta manusia tetapi memperlekehkan manusia yang menjadi hamba cinta.Tak pasti dari mana sumber cerita ini samaada dari Israeliyat atau dari tulisan ahli sufi seperti didakwa.Nak cerita kisah ni secara detail rase malas sebab nanti niat cuma nak bercerita nanti diserang bertubi-tubi dengan pelbagai andaian forumer plak. .cuma nak peringatkan sikit.Kalau sesuatu kisah itu tak menjejaskan akidah dan amalan sebenar Islam tak perlulah bimbang untuk mendengar cerita-cerita seperti ini.Anggaplah ini semua kisah-kisah lagenda saja.
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 Author| Post time 15-10-2008 12:48 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by putragold at 14-10-2008 04:21 PM
ada satu pertanyaan, boleh ke malaikat bercinta?




Mcm limau ckp, malaikat tu bukannya bercinta.
Tapi dia jatuh cinta SETELAH Allah berikan dia nafsu seperti yg diberikan kpd manusia.
Wallahua'lam.
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Post time 15-10-2008 12:50 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by mac_taylor at 15-10-2008 12:48 PM



Mcm limau ckp, malaikat tu bukannya bercinta.
Tapi dia jatuh cinta SETELAH Allah berikan dia nafsu seperti yg diberikan kpd manusia.
Wallahua'lam.


kalu Allah yg disembah arab jahililiyah bersama-sama tuhan lain tu yg beri, then tau ler mana datangnya citer ni
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 Author| Post time 15-10-2008 12:51 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by sayapghaib at 15-10-2008 12:24 PM
Perempuan cantik tu bukan bernama Sarah tetapi Zahrah.Menurut kepercayaan lama orang-orang Arab ,perempuan cantik tu telah dihukum dan ditukar oleh Allah menjadi Planet Zuhrah.Kedua malaikat tu p ...


Enche sayapghaib, aku teruja utk mendgr cite ekau ni ha..   
Pedulikanlah andaian2 sesiapa pun, ekau ceritakan ajer...
Klu org lain nak buat andaian atau judgement negatif, lantak depa..
Yg penting niat ekau hanya nak berkongsi cite..  
So cite la...  
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 Author| Post time 15-10-2008 12:55 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by putragold at 15-10-2008 12:50 PM

kalu Allah yg disembah arab jahililiyah bersama-sama tuhan lain tu yg beri, then tau ler mana datangnya citer ni



Psl kita x tau ler kita bertanya. X bertanya nanti jadi lebih jahil lagi, x gitu?
Sekurang2nya bila kita bertanya, dpt ler kita define antara yg hak & yg batil.
Klu cite ni x betul, at least kita tau la cite ni x betul, lenkali bley kita bgtau org lain plak.
Sama mcm engko nak define whether sesuatu hadis itu sahih atau x, engko kena periksa perawinya dulu.
Kan?  

Mcm yg aku ckp, klu ko rasa cite ni negatif sgt bagi ko, skip aje la.
Bnyk thread lain ko leh masuk lagik.  
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Post time 15-10-2008 01:40 PM | Show all posts
pernah gak dengar cerita 2 malaikat yg ingin menjadi manusia dan diperkenankan oleh Allah s.a.w.mereka kemudiannya dihukum kerana membuat salah.itu la kot yg para kristian panggil 'fallen angel'?
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Post time 15-10-2008 02:03 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by mac_taylor at 15-10-2008 12:55 PM



Psl kita x tau ler kita bertanya. X bertanya nanti jadi lebih jahil lagi, x gitu?
Sekurang2nya bila kita bertanya, dpt ler kita define antara yg hak & yg batil.
Klu cite ni x betul, at  ...


elok tu bertanya supaya tak sesat dalam perjalanan
jangan ler kecil hati pula

teruskan ler berkongsi, supaya dapat kita tau asal usul citer ni yg semakin dekat pada sumbernya
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 Author| Post time 15-10-2008 02:29 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by nodiman at 15-10-2008 01:40 PM
pernah gak dengar cerita 2 malaikat yg ingin menjadi manusia dan diperkenankan oleh Allah s.a.w.mereka kemudiannya dihukum kerana membuat salah.itu la kot yg para kristian panggil 'fallen angel'?


Enche Nodi, maaf yer, aku betulkan sedikit...
Bukan Allah s.a.w, tapi Allah s.w.t...     

Fallen Angels dlm Christianity merujuk kpd kejatuhan Lucifer (Azazil/Iblis) dari syurga, ditendang ke bumi.
Dan khabarnya semasa kejatuhan itu, dia turut membawa bersama sekumpulan fallen angels yg lain..
So, bukan dia seorg saja yg turun ke bumi...  
Dan golongan mereka itulah yg dirujuk sebagai The Fallen Angels...
Wallahua'lam bissawab....   
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 Author| Post time 15-10-2008 02:31 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by putragold at 15-10-2008 02:03 PM


elok tu bertanya supaya tak sesat dalam perjalanan
jangan ler kecil hati pula

teruskan ler berkongsi, supaya dapat kita tau asal usul citer ni yg semakin dekat pada sumbernya



Insya Allah, selagi ada Forumer yg sudi menyumbang info, selagi itulah thread ini akan berkembang...   
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Post time 15-10-2008 03:00 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by mac_taylor at 15-10-2008 12:48 PM



Mcm limau ckp, malaikat tu bukannya bercinta.
Tapi dia jatuh cinta SETELAH Allah berikan dia nafsu seperti yg diberikan kpd manusia.
Wallahua'lam.


betul tu, aku hairan kalo ada yg tak tahu kisah nie..
aku tahu sejak aku sekolah menengah lagi, dan masih ingat hingga sekarang.. so sapa yg dok pertikai tu mmg
tak baca buku lah tu...

*jgn mare*
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Post time 15-10-2008 03:02 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by limau at 15-10-2008 03:00 PM


betul tu, aku hairan kalo ada yg tak tahu kisah nie..
aku tahu sejak aku sekolah menengah lagi, dan masih ingat hingga sekarang.. so sapa yg dok pertikai tu mmg
tak baca buku lah tu...:lol ...


diorang baca buku ilmiah jer kot
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Post time 15-10-2008 03:23 PM | Show all posts
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Post time 15-10-2008 04:19 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by mziskandar at 15-10-2008 03:23 PM
further reading...
http://al-qayyim.net/web/index.p ... id=151&Itemid=2


thanks for sharing
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Post time 15-10-2008 04:41 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Nazrulism at 11-10-2008 06:56 PM


Terima kasih kerana menjelaskan lebih dahulu pada alyana...
Tapi betul juga contoh lari 100 meter 9 saat yana tu, tak semua mampu 9 saat.
haku sendiri.. mungkin kena ambil 30 saat untuk sam ...



jgn lupa,  heroes season 3 dah start ,
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