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Post time 14-1-2017 10:25 AM | Show all posts
chazey replied at 12-10-2016 05:42 PM
Ni antara hadis paling bangang aku pernah baca.

Hadis mana yg paling bangang tu..

Jika ilmu agama kita kurang, jangan cepat sangat menilai dan
menuduh bangang,  takut perkataan tu berbalik kpd diri sendiri..

Which part yg awak merasakan hadis tu bangang, tolong jelaskan mengapa
dan apa tafsiran di pemikiran awak.


Meh sini ...akak tolong jelaskan.
Itun pong kalo akak tahu laaa..
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Post time 14-1-2017 10:30 AM | Show all posts
chazey replied at 12-10-2016 07:35 PM
Astagosh!

Aiol rela jah jadi anti hadis jika hadis sebegini diangkat sebagai hadis sohih.  :l ...



Yes...ia adalah Hadith Sahih..

Jgn cepat melatah dan percaya dgn kata2 Pader Mydin Samdol.

Mydin bertahun2 tiup wisel pon tak berbunyi..ppprrrfffttt...
Yennadeeeiiii...chiitt.
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Post time 14-1-2017 10:39 AM | Show all posts
Maideen. replied at 14-1-2017 10:20 AM
Apalah agaknya pakar perbezaan  blowjob totey bersunat dengan totey tak bersunat ini cuba sampaika ...


Dah brape banyak taik palat ko suruh bini ko slurp ??

Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord.

Ephesians 5:22


Submit perghh !!!..husband setaraf macam Lord...

Senang yaa jantan2 kapla bawah berbungkos kemas, taik palat suruh
bini slurp cleannn...


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Post time 14-1-2017 10:44 AM | Show all posts

Lepaih tu kelentong kat bini kata taik palat

pong ada vitamin !!

Punya la jahat jantan2 kapla bawah berbungkos kemas
perdayakan isteri2 mureka..hangguk2 jer laaa.
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Post time 14-1-2017 11:01 AM | Show all posts
Edited by mbhcsf at 14-1-2017 11:05 AM
Maideen. replied at 12-10-2016 02:41 PM
Maideen jarang pergi majlis ilmu Kg. Railway ni...
Tapi pada 2007 Ketua Jabatan Hadis Universit ...

problem dengan anda  ialah

1. anda cubit sini sana sikit sikit dan anda burukkan islam dengan membuat impressionislam tu teruk ?
2. forumner ialah mereka tahu anda membawa posting yg anda tak letak rujukan hanya no hadis dan tak letak sumber dan hanya tahu misconstrued context
3. tak ada siapa penyokong anda berani menegur kesalahan anda berulang kali?sedangkan dalam konteks lain berani benar mencerca hadis atas kejahilan dan rendahnya akhlak kepada ALLAH ? atau  kesalahan lain  org lain ?sistem nilai  yg ntah apa apa ? bila dengan awak dah terkunci keberanian?

mengapa berpilih?


okay , sebab  you hanya bagi satu konteks yg samar  as usual maka
[size=14.4414px]Please clarify the following hadith.
[size=14.4414px]A’isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Sahla bint Suhail came to Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) and said: Messenger of Allah, I see on the face of Abu Hudhaifa (signs of disgust) on entering of Salim (who is an ally) into (our house), whereupon Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) said: Suckle him. She said: How can I suckle him as he is a grown-up man? Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) smiled and said: I already know that he is a young man.
[size=14.4414px]Was he suckled at the breast or form a cup?





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Post time 14-1-2017 11:02 AM | Show all posts
ANSWER

In the name of Allah, Most Compassionate, Most Merciful,

Let us first look at the translation of the Hadith mentioned in the Sahih of Imam Muslim and elsewhere:

Sayyida A’isha (Allah be pleased with her) reports that Sahla bint Suhayl came to the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) and said: “O Messenger of Allah! I see on the face of Abu Hudhayfa (signs of dislike) on the entering of Salim, who is an ally, (into our house). The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said: “Suckle him.” She said: “How can I suckle him as he is a grown-up man? The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) smiled and said: “I already know that he is a young man.” (Sahih Muslim, no: 1453)

Another version of this Hadith is as follows:

Sayyida A’isha (may Allah be pleased with her) reports that Salim, the freed-slave of Abu Hudhayfa, lived with him and his family in their house. She (i.e. the daughter of Suhayl and wife of Abu Hudhayfa) came to the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) and said: “Salim has attained (puberty) as men attain, and he has began to understand what they understand, and he enters our house freely, I, however, think that Abu Hudhayfa feels uncomfortable with this. The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said to her: “Suckle him and you would become unlawful for him, and (the dislike) which Abu Hudhayfa feels in his heart will disappear.” She returned and said: “I have suckled him and what (was there) in the heart of Abu Hudhayfa has disappeared.” (Sahih Muslim)

Before coming to any sort of conclusion, we need to first understand the background and context of this incident. Imam Abu al-Abbas al-Qurtubi (Allah have mercy on him) states in his commentary of Sahih Muslim:

“Salim (in this Hadith) is Salim ibn Ma’qal…Abu Hudhayfa had adopted him in accordance with the customs of the Arabs. He (Salim) had been brought up and raised by Abu Hudhayfa and his wife as their own son. When the verse of the Qur’an “Call them (your adopted children) by (the names of) their (real) fathers….”Surah al-Ahzab, V: 5) was revealed, the ruling of adopting children was abrogated (in that one can no longer consider an adopted son to be one’s own). However, Salim continued to reside and enter the house of Sahla (the wife of Abu Hudhayfa) as he was a minor. When he grew old and came close to puberty, both Abu Hudhayfa and Sahla disliked the idea of him entering freely upon Sahla, but they found it difficult to mention this to him, given the fact that he had lived with them (and was brought up by them), hence they asked the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) regarding this. The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said to Sahla: “Suckle him and you would become unlawful for him, and (the dislike) which Abu Hudhayfa feels in his heart will disappear” hence she suckled him and it so happened (i.e. the dislike of Abu Hudhayfa disappeared)…” (al-Mufhim lima Ashkal min talkhis Kitab Muslim, 4/186, Dar Ibn Kathir print)
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Post time 14-1-2017 11:03 AM | Show all posts
The above clearly illustrates that Salim was adopted by Abu Hudhayfa and his wife Sahla. He had lived with them and was raised and brought up by them since childhood. However, Islam does not recognize legal adoption and a adopted child is not considered a real child, hence after reaching puberty, the rules of Hijab are applicable. It became very difficult for Salim to live with his adoptive mother due to this rule, thus the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) advised Sahla to make Salim drink her breast-milk, whereby the rules of Hijab would be lifted.

It is narrated in the Tabaqat of Ibn Sa’d and elsewhere that Sahla would pour her breast-milk into a utensil each day for five continuous days and Salim would drink from it. He did not directly drink from the breast of Sahla, as it is not permitted to expose one’s awra in front of a non-Mahram adult let alone have him suckled. Thus, the objection raised by some non-Muslims that this was an immoral act has no significance, for Sahla did not directly suckle Salim, as he had reached puberty. Imam Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani (Allah have mercy on him) has also mentioned this in his al-Isaba fi tamiz al-Sahaba. (See: Tabaqat Ibn Sa’d, 8/271 & al-Isaba, 4/337)

This leaves us with the question whether is it allowed for an adult to drink breast-milk, and what implications would that hold?

It is a well-known and recognised fact amongst the majority of the Muslim jurists (fuqaha) that suckling is not permitted after two (or 2 and a half) years, neither does it affect the rules of Hijab and marriage. The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) quite clearly mentioned this in one Hadith where he said: “…suckling is only valid if it takes place in the suckling period.” (Sahih al-Bukhari, no. 2504 & Sahih Muslim, no. 1455) The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) also said: “Suckling (radha’a) does not prohibit (i.e. marriage) except which penetrates the intestines (m: meaning which serves as a nourishment for the child) from the breasts, and it is prior to weaning.” (Recorded by Imam al-Tirmidhi in his Sunan, no. 1152)
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Post time 14-1-2017 11:04 AM | Show all posts
Due to the above narrations, all four Sunni schools of Islamic law are in agreement that suckling and breastfeeding will only be considered (i.e. in effecting the rules of marriage and Hijab) if it takes place in the period designated for it, and it is of no significance after that period.

Thus, scholars mention that the permission given by the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) for Sahla to give her milk to Salim was a special dispensation and an isolated case, and it cannot be generalized. Imam Abu al-Abbas al-Qurtubi (Allah have mercy on him) states that all of the Prophet’s wives with the exception of A’isha (Allah be pleased with them all) considered this to be a special dispensation, and this is the view taken by the majority of early (salaf) and late (khalaf) scholars. They considered the Hadith to be specific with Salim and Sahla, and are of the opinion that it is not permitted for an adult to drink breast-milk. If an adult did drink breast-milk, it will be of no consequence with regards to marriage and the rules of Hijab. (See: al-Mufhim, 4/186-187 & I’la al-Sunan, 11/119)

Moreover, Umm Salama, the wife of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) used to say: “All the wives of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) rejected the idea that one can come to them (without observing the rules of Hijab) with this type of breastfeeding (i.e. the suckling of an adult), hence they said to A’isha (Allah be pleased with her): “By Allah, we do not consider this but a dispensation given by the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) for Salim. No one is to be allowed to enter (our houses) with this type of fosterage and we do not subscribe to this view.” (Sahih Muslim, no: 1454)

Thus, in conclusion, it is not permitted for an adult to intentionally drink breast-milk; neither will it have any bearing on the rules of Hijab and marriage. The companion Salim (Allah be pleased with him) was given a special dispensation by the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) to drink the milk of Sahla, the wife of Abu Hudhayfa, due to the special circumstances of their case. However, Salim did not directly drink the milk from the breast of Sahla, rather, she would pour the milk in a utensil and he would drink from it.

And Allah knows best

[Mufti] Muhammad ibn Adam
Darul Iftaa
Leicester , UK
source :
http://islamqa.org/hanafi/daruliftaa/8424

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Post time 14-1-2017 11:07 AM | Show all posts
diam la
nk agama sgt balik bod agama la
ptui

taliban wannabe
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Post time 14-1-2017 11:07 AM | Show all posts
sofea_uk replied at 14-1-2017 10:30 AM
Yes...ia adalah Hadith Sahih..

Jgn cepat melatah dan percaya dgn kata2 Pader Mydin Samdol ...

konteks seringkali  misconstrued.sebenarnya boleh je nak tentukan konteks tapi atas  pada diri sebenarnya  nak menghayati.




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Post time 14-1-2017 11:08 AM | Show all posts
dizzzek replied at 14-1-2017 11:07 AM
diam la
nk agama sgt balik bod agama la
ptui

saya berhak membetulkan konteks yg berkaitan dengan hadis dan konteksnya.
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Post time 14-1-2017 11:15 AM | Show all posts
mbhcsf replied at 14-1-2017 11:04 AM
Due to the above narrations, all four Sunni schools of Islamic law are in agreement that suckling an ...

Thank you sooooo much sis.

Pader Mydin Samdol nak tunjuk pandai...
terserlah kebodohan sundirik.

Sofea cuma nak highlightkan ini

It is narrated in the Tabaqat of Ibn Sa’d and elsewhere that Sahla would pour her breast-milk
into a utensil each day for five continuous days and Salim would drink from it. He did not directly
drink from the breast of Sahla, as it is not permitted to expose one’s awra in front of a non-Mahram
adult let alone have him suckled. Thus, the objection raised by some non-Muslims that this was an
immoral act has no significance, for Sahla did not directly suckle Salim, as he had reached puberty.
Imam Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani (Allah have mercy on him) has also mentioned this in his al-Isaba fi tamiz al-Sahaba.

(See: Tabaqat Ibn Sa’d, 8/271 & al-Isaba, 4/337)



Ini loa modal pejuang2 Kisten yg tiada modal dan otak penoh dgn sex

diorang ingatkan suck terus pada breast..bahalol !!


Ramai muslinm yg tahu pasal ini, cuma diam2 sahaja.
Pader Bodoh tu mendabik dada I am who yg tonggong
dan tong kosong !!
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Post time 14-1-2017 11:21 AM | Show all posts
sofea_uk replied at 14-1-2017 11:15 AM
Thank you sooooo much sis.

Pader Mydin Samdol nak tunjuk pandai...

kena tengok konteks  tu...dan yes you are right , kalau tak tahu tanya , kalaupun nampak blunt ke atau apa ke at least tanya , berkali kali pun tak pe, bukan terus tulis yg tak elok.
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Post time 14-1-2017 11:22 AM | Show all posts
mbhcsf replied at 14-1-2017 11:08 AM
saya berhak membetulkan konteks yg berkaitan dengan hadis dan konteksnya.

not interested on yours
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Post time 14-1-2017 11:23 AM | Show all posts
Hadis Sahih  mengenai Salim itu HANYA SAH tertaklok

pada kes anak angkat @ Salim SAHAJA.

Special Case.

Hukum anak susuan hanya pada anak berumur
kurang  2 Tahun.
Narrated Aisha:
Once the Prophet came to me while a man was in my house. He said, "O `Aisha! Who is this (man)?"
I replied, "My foster brothers" He said, "O `Aisha! Be sure about your foster brothers,
as fosterage is only valid if it takes place in the suckling period
(before two years of age).

(Sahih-ul-Bukhari, Volume 3, Book 48, Number 815)


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Post time 14-1-2017 11:42 AM | Show all posts
Edited by sofea_uk at 14-1-2017 11:48 AM
mbhcsf replied at 14-1-2017 11:21 AM
kena tengok konteks  tu...dan yes you are right , kalau tak tahu tanya , kalaupun nampak blunt ke  ...


Terima kasih yaa sis memudahkan posting saya.

Sofea dah tahu semua itu dan sebenarnya banyak

fitnah2 Pader Mydin dlm ni tunggu masa ajer nak di

londehkan seluar Pader Mydin.


Tunggu yaa di lain kali nak disekolahkan pasal

Hadis Palsu Kambing tu dan Hukum Mazhab Shafie tentang

hubungan anak luar nikah dgn bapa. .

Memandai2 ajer Pader Vatican sekor ni..

Banyak sangat ikut dlm Bibel minum air kencing sundirik..
itu yg Pader Mydin bebal sampai ke tulang ....

Bak kata org " Bodoh tak boleh di Ajar "



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Post time 14-1-2017 11:53 AM | Show all posts
apa guna klau seorang ngaku dia muslim, sembahyang, solat
tp kuat rasuah dan tindas rakyat
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Post time 14-1-2017 12:00 PM | Show all posts
sofea_uk replied at 14-1-2017 10:39 AM
Dah brape banyak taik palat ko suruh bini ko slurp ??

Pengalaman pakar.........Prrrrrrrrrrpffffftght
Pastinya ummah ternanti nanti perkongsian pengalaman you......PrrrrrrrrrrrrrrPfffftght


Takbirrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

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Post time 14-1-2017 12:05 PM | Show all posts
mbhcsf replied at 14-1-2017 11:07 AM
konteks seringkali  misconstrued.sebenarnya boleh je nak tentukan konteks tapi atas  pada diri seb ...

Daripada konteks sana konteks sini, tak boleh cakap perawi hadis tu sebenernya nyanyok  macam perawi  hadis Aisyah yang serbenernya kawin umur 29 tahun dan bukan 6 tahun tu ker? Prrrrrrrrpfffftght
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Post time 14-1-2017 12:12 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Mcm anak daphne iking, walau d.i. kawen jantan melayu n dia convert to islam, anak dia xconvert,siap ckp nanti umur 18thn boleh pilih agama apa
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