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Originally posted by Josh40 at 28-11-2003 07:54 AM:
millions spendings billions to a vacuum when God is every where.

what vanity or sanity or infinity in HELL with the last socalled prophet.


DOOM.

yet, muslims believed hajj is a true blessing but Islam is coming doom.

Originally posted by Josh40 at 28-11-2003 07:54 AM:
millions spendings billions to a vacuum when God is every where.

what vanity or sanity or infinity in HELL with the last socalled prophet.


DOOM.

You have no pilgrimage to make because your religion of paul is in a vacuum as far as authenticity is concerned. The only place you can lay claim for any pilgrimage is the vatican (although you are not a catholic) because your religion started from there (catholics & protestants all have the same root - paul and constantine) - divorced altogether from Jesus, from Jerusalem, one of the holy lands of the people of Abrahamaic faith.

Your idols are everywhere in the vatican. Yes, there is no vacuum in the vatican. To us, no idols in the ka'abah does not denote a vacuum - it denotes the triumph of monotheism and non-idolatry/non-paganism over polytheism, idolatry and paganism which you christians hold dearly to. The cross itslef is an idol, so don't point your fingers at the catholics alone - you are all pagans and idolators living in the dark ages and insisting that you are 'enlightened'.  

[ Last edited by KENNKID on 28-11-2003 at 01:19 PM ]

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The question remain same. Get the evidence of the so called 'mystery' room pics.

then u  come here talk about who is keeping idols.

certainly I am not     idols worshipper.        

Originally posted by Truth.8 at 28-11-2003 01:41 PM:
The question remain same. Get the evidence of the so called 'mystery' room pics.

then u  come here talk about who is keeping idols.

certainly I am not     idols worshipper.        [/s ...

Heheh...the question remains the same - you go show me your evidence. You are the accuser. I have nothing to defend as I know I'm not guilty.

Your idol is paul. You worship paul. You worship his twisted bible. Jesus never asked to be worshipped - none of the prophets of God did.

And Kennkdi will never get to see even the picture of what is inside the kaaba. Its so secretive, it must be hidden from him.

Originally posted by SFE talk at 28-11-2003 01:49 PM:
And Kennkdi will never get to see even the picture of what is inside the kaaba. Its so secretive, it must be hidden from him.

Heheh..there is no such thing. Our faith in Islam does not depend on seeing idols, what more non-existent ones that you invent. Yours (christinaity)  does - that is why you insist on retaining the cross, because your soul is blind and crippled and you depend on your naked eyes. Such insecurity of faith is only reserved for the followers of paul and other pagans and idolaters.

You are in awe of us and you wish you are like us, that is why you invent stories about us, in the hope that people (non-Muslims) will be blinded by your false accusations and will equate Muslims with christians. Fat hopes. I have run away from christianity idol worshipping long ago and I am perfectly happy and blessed. Catholics and non-catholic followers of paul are all idol worshippers.:2cool:

[ Last edited by KENNKID on 28-11-2003 at 02:07 PM ]

Cross is only a reminder, no diffrent from caligraphy. Crosses are not compulsory and I myself haved never worn any of those, its a matter of preference.
We certainly don't bow to objects like you do on a compulsory basis.

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Yup, certainly I never bow or wear crosses  or even for that matter indirectly bowing block of stone which claiming unity.

BUT, the mystery of that room until now have not been exposed yet. not even one single pics has been posted in internet or in book.


what that to hide??? if what u claimed no idols, EXPOSED IT. simple as that.

The Islamic concept of God is crystal clear, and it is purely of divine source -- not human conjecture. Man, with all his senses, sees God’s creation around him -- both animate and inanimate objects. These include the heavens and the earth, and all between them --  mankind, the sun, the moon, the stars, the rain, the mountains, animals, vegetables and all kinds of fruits, and many more.  All these have the same patterns of creation, and are, therefore, clear signs that there is One and only True God, Allah the Almighty and the Supreme Creator. He has asked us to meditate on those signs, so we would be able to realize that every creation has a definite purpose --   not accidental nor a mere idle sport.

Allah says: “Not for (idle sports did We create the heavens and the earth and all that is between!” (Qur’an 21:16)

  Elsewhere in the Qur’an, Allah the Almighty likewise says:

“We created not the heavens, the earth, and all between them, but for just ends.... For verily it is your Rabb (Sustainer) Who is the Master - The Creator knowing all things.”  (Qur’an 15:85-85)

“Your God is one God: as to those who believe not in the Hereafter, their hearts refuse to know, and they are arrogant.”  (Qur’an 16:22)

In order to satisfy further those with inquisitive minds, they should ponder over the following explicit accounts of the Oneness of God, as stated in the Holy Qur’an:

“And your God is One God: there is no god but He, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.”    (Qur’an 2:163)

“Allah, there is no god but He -- the Living the Self- subsisting Eternal. No slumber can seize Him nor sleep. His are all things in the heavens and on earth. Who is there that can intercede in His presence except as He permits? He knows what (appears to His creatures as) before or after or behind them. Nor shall they compass out of His knowledge except as He wills.  His Throne extends over the heavens and on earth, and He feels   no fatigue in guarding and preserving them for He is the Most High, the Supreme (in glory).”  (Qur’an 2:255)

“Verily, verily, your God is One! ”    (Qur’an 37:4)

“Say: ‘He is Allah the One and Only; God, the Eternal, Absolute; He begets   not, nor is He begotten; and there is none like unto Him.”     (Qur’an 112:1-4)



Any rational human being who sincerely acknowledges the unique attributes of Allah, attributes which are absolutely Divine and true to Himself alone, will never associate anything with Him. Allah, the one and only true God, is the sole Living God of the Universe. He is Eternal, Absolute, Most Compassionate, Most Gracious, Omnipresent, Omniscient, Omnipotent, Most Powerful and Selfـ Sufficient. He is the Giver of Life, the Creator of the Heavens and the Earth, and all between them.  He is the best Disposer of Affairs. He is Most High, Great. He is Most Forbearing and the Best of Planners. He is quick in retribution, but forgiving and merciful. He is Exalted in power, Wise, free of all wants and worthy of all praise.

He is the Rabb (Sustainer) of the Throne of Honor. To Him belongs the End and the Beginning. He is above time and space; hence, no vision can ever grasp Him.



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Originally posted by KENNKID at 28-11-2003 09:57 PM:
The Islamic concept of God is crystal clear, and it is purely of divine source -- not human conjecture. Man, with all his senses, sees God抯 creation around him -- both an ...

running again with my topic with long short story.

The question remain same. Get the evidence of the so called 'mystery' room pics.

Originally posted by Truth.8 at 28-11-2003 10:27 PM:
running again with my topic with long short story.

The question remain same. Get the evidence of the so called 'mystery' room pics.

The 'mystery' is just a figment of your own imagination. Not worth any intelligent person's entertaining. You have lost. What I have said above is the answer, if you are spiritually enlightened. Unfortunately, your soul is a dead wood.

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Originally posted by KENNKID at 28-11-2003 10:32 PM:
The 'mystery' is just a figment of your own imagination. Not worth any intelligent person's entertaining. You have lost. What I have said above is the answer, if you are spiritu ...

if i bring this topic to world wide coverage as well to White house, believed me billions of billions peoples eager to know.

thanks God, he choose me to exposed this question

Amen to my True God

[ Last edited by Truth.8 on 28-11-2003 at 10:55 PM ]

Originally posted by Truth.8 at 28-11-2003 10:52 PM:
if i bring this topic to world wide coverage as well to White house, believed me billions of billions peoples eager to know.

thanks God, he choose me to exposed this question

Amen t ...

The occupant of the White House is himself a complete  idiot - a Black hearted one.

The occupant of Sri Perdana is enlightened.:2cool:

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Originally posted by KENNKID at 28-11-2003 10:59 PM:
The occupant of the White House is himself a complete  idiot - a Black hearted one.

The occupant of Sri Perdana is enlightened.

are u try to "bodek" sri perdana??? since u are chinese convert to islam....i guess u are. I hve a chinese friend who says this"

If a chinese convert to Islam 'beware" ????I ask her,  why??? she silent.

now I understand
:nana:

White House done great job to give freedom to people afgan

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Three Divisions of Islam:
Shi'a Muslims "believe that Muhammed designated Ali, his cousin and son in law, as his rightful descendant and true leader of the Muslim community" (Esposito, 44). Community leaders must be Imams (leader), who are direct descendants of Ali. Imams are considered to be divinely inspired and infallible leaders of the religious and political community.
Sunni Muslims believe that leadership should come from community consensus. The Sunni comprise the largest Islamic sect, with approximately 85% of the Muslim population.
Sufism is a form of Islamic mysticism. An esoteric sect, Sufis emphasize devotion, selflessness and practice asceticism to get closer to Allah. Sufis can be either Sunni or Shi'a.

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al-Lat  .....al Lah  same tune????:re::re:


The Ka'ba as is well known b4, was in some sort the Pantheon of the Arab tribes and was full of idols. It was the House of that al-Lat, al-'Uzza and Manat

[ Last edited by Truth.8 on 29-11-2003 at 01:37 AM ]

for the dark room to be exposed soon.

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Originally posted by Josh40 at 29-11-2003 01:47 AM:
for the dark room to be exposed soon.

yup al-lat will be exposed soon

Lana

gee..its dark in here..

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Originally posted by Lana at 29-11-2003 12:58 PM:
gee..its dark in here..

then exposed it!!!