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raxief posted on 21-10-2012 05:21 PM
ada sorg kwn aku smpi skrg masih beriya ckp kapal selam ni rosak, xleh dive, 2nd hand.. mcm2 la. b ...
yg nie dah tahap2 mental block n pencacai....kronik2
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hidup lagik thread aku nie........... |
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Acong posted on 7-11-2012 01:08 PM
hidup lagik thread aku nie...........
Selamat ya jeengggg...
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terima kasih sbb up kan thread nie..... buat sticky pun bagus gak...... |
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Urmm, perkembangan citer ni? Udah dibawak bicara kat Perancis ke belom? Atau masih dalam siasatan? |
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Malaysia A: larger smaller reset Email Print RMN says bought Scorpenes to avoid repeat of 1511 Portuguese invasion
November 02, 2012
The Navy will deploy the Scorpene attack submarines in a defensive role.
KOTA KINABALU, Nov 2 — In 2002, The Royal Malaysia Navy (RMN) procured two French-made Scorpene submarines at the cost of RM3.4 billion. According to the RMN, the move was to prevent a repeat of the “1511 episode” when the Portuguese armada attacked and seized the port city of Malacca, famous for being the trading hub in Southeast Asia, at the time.
In the annals of Malaysian history, the Portuguese overwhelmed the defenders of Malacca after three days of heavy fighting that culminated in the capture of the bridge over the Malacca River which led to the fall of the city.
The Portuguese had far superior armaments including muskets and cannons as compared to the defenders whose spirit and bravery was beyond question.
After the Portuguese, the Dutch came in 1644 followed by the British after the Anglo-Dutch treaty of 1824 in London.
RMN Chief Admiral Tan Sri Abdul Aziz Jaafar said the two submarines were meant to add “muscle” to the country’s defence of its waters and sovereignty.
During a recent media visit to the RMN base here, Abdul Aziz said despite adverse claims against the nation’s defence assets, he was confident of the submarines’ capability in ensuring protection of Malaysia’s sovereignty.
Abdul Aziz took over as the RMN chief in 2008.
The Scorpenes, named after the first two Malaysian prime ministers, are advanced diesel-powered submarines.
The KD Tunku Abdul Rahman and KD Tun Razak operate on the stealth principle and can surprise any encroaching hostile vessels.
Each submarine, which is also capable of water-to-surface attack, can stay under the sea for up to 45 days with 32 crewmen onboard.
Abdul Aziz said the RMN base here is set to be the world’s first training centre for Scorpene submarines after the completion of a second simulator training facility, costing about RM135 million early next year. India and Chile have expressed interest in training their navy personnel at the base As Malaysia is a littoral state it is vital for RMN to enhance its capability in Littoral Combat Ships LCS he said adding that the effort was part of modernisation plans of the armed forces Littoral zone is the part of a sea lake or river that is close to the shore In coastal environments the littoral zone extends from the high water mark which is rarely inundated to shoreline areas that are permanently submerged In the years after the Second World War Emergency and Confrontation the RMN has gone through a modernisation programme and is considered to be among the strongest navies in Southeast Asia now The RMN has staff strength of about 20 000 personnel with modern naval assets in the region There is also an airbase for the fleet air arm that consists of two squadrons of naval helicopters Other than the various classes of patrol ships and vessels the RMN is now equipped with aircrafts comprising of the Agusta Westland Super Lynx 300 and Eurocopter AS 555 Fennec helicopters The navy also has a special force called Paskal (Bernama).
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/rmn-says-bought-scorpenes-to-avoid-repeat-of-1511-portuguese-invasion Last edited by yipun_78 on 17-11-2012 03:38 PM
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NGO group accuses Anwar of approving Scorpene deal
UPDATED @ 07:00:46 PM 24-10-2012 By Ida LimOctober 24, 2012KUALA LUMPUR, Oct 24 — Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim approved Malaysia’s controversial purchase of Scorpene submarines when he was Finance Minister in 1995, a group of non-governmental organisations campaigning against Suaram’s role in pushing for investigations, said today.
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/ngo-group-accuses-anwar-of-approving-scorpene-deal Last edited by yipun_78 on 17-11-2012 03:41 PM
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malberi8 posted on 19-4-2010 11:24 PM
aku bukan pro govt atau pembangkang... kalu ada bukti yang menunjukan terdapat usur2 corruption atau ...
kes beli kenderaan tentera rm500k seunit. ada sultan yg tegur beliau beli asset kenderaan tu rm 160k je seunit. dh tegur baru nk wat siasatan dalaman. ko nak tau pasal corruption jgn tanya pembangkang atau bn tanya org dalam tentera sndiri. meka lg tahu hal2 sebegini. tak adil dengar sebelah pihak.. itu je aq boleh ckp
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IceMallet posted on 20-4-2010 05:23 PM
Bagus gak terdedah citer2 salah guna kuasa dan rasuah dalam pembelian sistem pertahanan negara. Aku ...
britian punya submarine lg murah aq tgk kt blog serius. comparison aq buat lg berbaloi beli submarine britian sebab maintanance kos rendah, multifunciton and features banyak, dan pergerakan tak boleh dikesan radar. hebat kan? tp tulah corruption berlaku |
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pyropura posted on 24-4-2010 09:24 PM
aku rasa APA yang dibeli tu takde masalah, tapi yang banyak dipersoalkan CARA PEMBELIAN tu, bu ...
pandai pun ko. kementerian yg paling senang buat rasuah ko fikir kementerian mana ek? beli barang berjuta? berbillion? betul tak? ada jabatan audit semak price semasa? ada audit dpt access dengan militiry luar negara? sebab itulah corruption sebegini tak terdedah kepada awam. alasan nye classified dan keselamatan negara. tp yg dibeli nye barang rosak, lepas tu benda tak boleh maintain? jd kena beli baru lg. aq dh faham bebenar cara org politik buat duit. kt dunia meka lepas. kat akhirat tanggunglah.
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Acong posted on 24-4-2010 10:27 PM
hanya manusia tarak otak je tak kisah kalu beli sampai markup 2-3 kali ganda......... tu namanya bah ...
kes PPSMI yg cikgu2 dapat laptop? harga seketul laptop berat zaman tu rm6k. tp bila di audit harga belian dari kementerian rm16k? ni masa pengajaran sains matematik dalam english tu.. apa cerita ni? cuba tgk sape menteri pelajaran pada masa itu? rm10k hangus sebegitu saja. rakyat tak tahu. yg tahu org2 yg ada access dan dapat laporan hasil audit negara. banyak lg loophooles rasuah berlaku di malaysia. kalau kawan2 tak percaya blh refer hasil audit negara mnta kat ahli parlimen masing2. benda2 cmni lh perlu kita elakkan..
Last edited by AdamBillionaire on 1-1-2013 01:35 AM
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Acong posted on 26-4-2010 07:48 PM
kasik tepek sni syarat2 tender tu....
yg pelik nk beli benda tu pun kena bayar fees cost utk panel penasihat sampai puluh juta?? gila ke apa? tak lg panel penasihat perunding yg bertauliah yg tak letak harga mahal ke?? banyak lg cost yg hidden cost yg tak dapat classified dalam pembelian asset negara. benda2 cmni lah dinamakan corruption. masuk poket kroni..
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Acong posted on 26-4-2010 07:49 PM
bahalol je yg beli menda dgn rega markup.......
setuju sgt2. org2 tentera pun tahu kebenaran. tp media ambil yg baik saja masuk tv bagai.
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hyazinth79 posted on 27-4-2010 09:32 PM
Reply 40# Acong
ada kan engginer tempatan blh wat hangar pesawat? tp bab2 repair dan spare part pesawat kita masih ketinggalan mmg kena bg tender.tp bab2 lain anak tempatan malaysia boleh buat.. tak perlu open tender rasuah bagai
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razhar posted on 29-4-2010 12:22 PM
wei lol,mana ko blajar harga pesawat tu termasuk kos buat base??? apa punya bahalol!!!
k ...
dia pk tentera mlaysia sakai apa tak geti buat basement? tak geti engineering parking pesawat?? hahaha
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hyazinth79 posted on 30-4-2010 12:12 PM
org yg bangkitkan pun perlu disiasat, motif sebenar, sbb kadang2 org yg suruh siasat tu la yg cuba b ...
tak payah nk bangkitkan isu politiklah. sini military board. nk politik pg tempat lain sakai
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hyazinth79 posted on 30-4-2010 06:20 PM
Reply 66# robotech
sbb tu la aku ckp org yang menyalak pun kena siasat, dan aku tak anut mana2 ...
ckp agama pandai lepas tu duk perli org lain haha jenis2 sep tu juga
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mamat2009 posted on 30-4-2010 11:05 PM
biasela bro, budak hingusan nak bagi komen, tp xtau pun ape yg dia komen tu kahkahkah
ingat sya ...
benda2 cmni susah nk audit bro. sebab bg aq kos2 sebenar price market tak de yg fixed, lepas tu tambah kos2 pelik. even jabatan audit sprm nk siasat pun kes sebegini high profile. melibatkan pemimpin negara. jd kena ada sokongan semua pihak supaya siasatan telus dapat dijalankan..
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PristineOne posted on 1-5-2010 02:44 AM
Cerita pasal Sub ni tak mengejutkan pun. Banyak lagi benda dah kena mark up dek segelintir di "Jalan ...
ada org big player sebalik semua ni. cm PKLN lepasan spm lah. tender dobi bg kt sep2 meka juga. yg keluarkan duit kmnterian, guna duit rakyat juga.. walhal kos dobi baju celoreng kalau basuh sndiri kos baru rm2. tp bila bg tender jd rm5. kawan aq yg dpt tu bawa 4 wheel drive je ambil angkut pg hantar dobi cina dia dh untung atas angin. aq dh tegur dia dh. yg penting aq dh lepas moga ALLAH bg kawan aq hidayah.. |
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razhar posted on 1-5-2010 11:03 AM
Reply 79# hyazinth79
ko askar ke?? pm kan aku nombor ko....regiment ko..base ko....wilayah ...
cara cakap berpolitik macai. dia bukan askar kut. sebab aq tgk IP address internet dia, dia duk rumah area penempatan kampung melayu. bukan kawasan bandar. ni sep2 yg lurus bendul rasanye
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