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Author: Reign

Vtec + iDSI = Alfa Romeo Twin Spark

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Post time 20-6-2008 01:34 AM | Show all posts
to me, biarlah company keta mana nak tiru/copy/ciplak...

sharing is caring maa..  last last, korang jugak yg guna.. harga minyak dah naik.. so all these techologies are needed by us..
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Post time 20-6-2008 08:36 AM | Show all posts

Reply #21 BSundayB's post

pemikiran org biasa x same ngan pemikiran pihak pengurusan sesebuah organisasi tu...


marah la.. kalau staff kite penat2 develop sistem yg bagus... tetiba org lain copy, pastu siap buat lagi canggih lak tu... ....
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Reply #22 metalique's post

Kalau orang tu dapat buat lebih baik... kita tiru lak dia punya...
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Post time 20-6-2008 09:09 AM | Show all posts

Reply #23 Reign's post

malangnye kat sini budaya camtu xde lagikk..
kalo ade pun nanti di cap sebagai plagiat...
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 Author| Post time 20-6-2008 09:31 AM | Show all posts
Mereka fikir masa depan untuk kebaikan bersama... kita pulak... pentingkan diri sendiri...
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 Author| Post time 20-6-2008 09:36 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by whiteDhahlia at 19-6-2008 11:25 PM



betul....

btw, ada sesapa tau info pasal pameran yg alfa buat dlm bulan ni?



Pameran kat mana tuh..?
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Post time 20-6-2008 10:31 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Reign at 20-6-2008 09:36 AM



Pameran kat mana tuh..?



tak ingat dah...
baca dlm The Star sometime ago
katanya boleh bawak keta utk cek or service kat situ
spare parts ada jual, discount if I'm not mistaken up to 80%
kalau tak silap sampai hujung bulan kot
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Post time 20-6-2008 09:39 PM | Show all posts
aku x mampu pakai honda.
honda cub boleh?
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Post time 21-6-2008 07:27 AM | Show all posts
scientists - love to make new discovery/theory and also love to publicise/publish it in journal

innovators - love to make new innovation for the benefits of humankind and civilization

businessman - love to commercialize the innovation and to make profit by using pattern or copy right to the new innovation

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Post time 21-6-2008 06:08 PM | Show all posts
alfa memang certain rpm baru dia kick-in.
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Post time 21-6-2008 09:32 PM | Show all posts
maknanya alfa twinspark ni lagi power dan jimat minyak ke..
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Post time 7-8-2008 02:29 AM | Show all posts
town driving agak kepenatan jugak minyak die...huhuhuh..

tapi kalau highway cun..
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Post time 8-8-2008 12:30 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Reign at 19-6-2008 09:54
Idea asal Honda adalah dari Alfa Romeo, percaya tak...?:victory:


kalau ko maksudkan "Vtec" = alfa twin spark...aku tak percaya ar. Kalu honda i-Dsi tu betullah ikut alfa twin spark. Btw, Dapat mana info?

Aku quoted dari wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VTEC

VTEC (Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electronic Control) is a valvetrain system developed by Honda to improve the volumetric efficiency of a four-stroke internal combustion engine. This system uses two camshaft profiles and electronically selects between the profiles. This was the first system of its kind. Different types of variable valve timing and lift control systems have also been produced by other manufacturers (MIVEC from Mitsubishi, VVTL-i from Toyota, VarioCam Plus from Porsche, VVL from Nissan, etc). It was invented by Honda R&D engineer Ikuo Kajitani.[1] It can be said that VTEC, the original Honda variable valve control system, originated from REV (Revolution-modulated valve control) introduced on the CBR400 in 1983 known as HYPER VTEC.[2].

[ Last edited by  kambeng_masam at 8-8-2008 12:32 PM ]
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Post time 8-8-2008 12:54 PM | Show all posts
My 2cents,

Wikipedia ni sape sape pun buleh masukkan info..

Maksud aku, aku pun buleh contribute utk info wikipedia.

so bagi aku wikipedia ni tak la 100% tepat info dia..

Mungkin dalam 97% je tepat..ade yg mislead.
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Post time 8-8-2008 12:56 PM | Show all posts
Kalau nak tahu lebih pasal betul ke tak VTEC ambik idea from alfa..

Do a search on www.italiaauto.net

More reliable from wikipedia as far as alfa romeo is concern.

My 2 cents.
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Post time 8-8-2008 02:03 PM | Show all posts

Reply #35 mr_bertz's post

tapi kan....honda vtec tu bukannya ada sistem dual spark plug cam alfa twin spark kan? Kalu honda i-Dsi tu mmg betullah honda pakai idea alfa right?

aku pun nak tau nih...
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Post time 8-8-2008 03:58 PM | Show all posts
aku pun tak tahu sgt pasal enjin kete ni beb...sbb aku tak minat sgt pun..

hehhehehe..

AFAIK sistem Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electronic Control tu ade persamaan dengan yg kat valve timing kat dlm breed enjin Alfa Romeo.

Enjin AR ni banyak jenis beb. Ape ke benda valve variable ntah, twin spark etc etc etc...

Dan aku bukan lah org yg tepat utk explain pasal benda ni...

Nak tahu lebih lanjut aku rase baik tanye kat forum kete itali yg aku bagi link tuh..

Kat sane banyak hardcore alfisti.
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Post time 8-8-2008 04:04 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by mr_bertz at 7-8-2008 02:29 AM
town driving agak kepenatan jugak minyak die...huhuhuh..

tapi kalau highway cun..



betul2....
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Post time 8-8-2008 04:17 PM | Show all posts
tapi takpe..

minyak bayar lebih pun takpe..

naik alfa ni, kalau muke tak hensem pun nampak hensem..hahahhaha
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Post time 8-8-2008 06:30 PM | Show all posts
ooooh...baru aku paham...rupanya alfa romeo ni ada sistem vvt dan twin spark pada masa yg sama....
maybe maksud tuan rumah, sistem vtec di ceduk dari alfa begitu juak dgn i-dsi....cuma implementationnya kat honda secara berasingan.

However aku cukup tertarik ngan fakta nih; comparison between honda DOHC vtec 1.6cc Vs 2.0 Alfa Romeo Twin Spark

Alfa Romeo 2.0 Twin Spark DOHC
Capacity: 1970cc
Max. Power Output: 150bhp at 6300rpm
Peak Torque: 181Nm at 3800rpm
Top Speed: 208km/h
Acceleration from 0 to 100km/h: 9.3secs
source: http://www.autoitalia.com.my/Default.aspx?tabid=61

               Vs

Civic 1.6 Spec R DOHC Vtec
Capacity: 1595cc
Max. Power Output: 185bhp at 8200rpm
Peak Torque: 16.3 kgm @ 7500 rpm
Top Speed: ? km/h
Acceleration from 0 to 100kmh: ?
source: http://asian_e.tripod.com/Honda_Engine_Specs.htm

[ Last edited by  kambeng_masam at 8-8-2008 06:32 PM ]
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