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[merged] Everything on HAPPINESS

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Post time 16-8-2007 09:05 PM | Show all posts

Reply #10 True-X's post

itulah salah satu tanda yg kehidupan di dunia ni tak akan kekal selamanya. setiap apa benda pun kalau kita dah dapat benda tu, lama2 pun akan jadi boring juga. dan kita akan cari pulak benda yg lain. lepas tu sekejap je dah boring balik. and the same goes on and on...
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Post time 16-8-2007 09:30 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by artgeex at 16-8-2007 12:08 AM
imho, hanya orang kaya saja yang layak cakap duit bukan segala-galanya dan duit tak boleh beli kebahagiaan. sebab bagi orang kaya, kebahagiaan/happiness yang dia cari dah 'naik tangga' dari orang ...


Maslow's hieararchy of needs come to mind...

1. Physiological needs

2. Safety needs

3. Love/Belonging/Social needs

4. Esteem needs

5. Self-actualization

As much as I am nice, I have to tell that if your basic needs爀.g.爊o.5(self燼ctualizatuion)燼re not fulfilled, your monetary needs, bills, etc... are not fulfilled sufficiently, there is no way you can be a whole, spiritual,爏elf爁ulfilled燼nd燿eveloped爌erson.燳ou'll爋nly燽e燿eluding爕ourself.燚eluding爕ourself
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Post time 16-8-2007 09:32 PM | Show all posts

Reply #11 Navarrus's post

Of course. That, is the foundation of technological advancement.

“Flying is now as familiar as walking."
"But why?"
"Because someone was not content爅ust to walk."
James D Freeman

[ Last edited by  Agul at 16-8-2007 10:15 PM ]
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Post time 16-8-2007 09:33 PM | Show all posts

Reply #8 SONofODIN's post

Ahh... would you do miserable things to get money?
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Post time 19-8-2007 03:12 PM | Show all posts

Reply #1 Navarrus's post

happiness is a state of mind...there is nothing that can ensure happiness if u r not at peace or satisfied with what you hv

if ur happiness depends largely on the material stuff....then the things that you mention are the essence needed to guarantee u that

different ppl got a diff opinion on what happiness is all abt...ur definition for me is superficial

For me happiness is when...the ppl closest to me are happy...as I love to share the glow that radiate from them...when they are happy~ blissfull

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Post time 20-8-2007 08:52 PM | Show all posts
in todays world i would say, yes.. money does bring happiness for most people

i agree that people who are a lot richer always seem to have a better life. bill gates, warren buffet, abramovic ect.. people like them, who have powers, and obviously lots of money, may hardly find themselves in difficult circumstances in everyday life. richer family, with higher incomes, are generally happier with life. owns a big house, a swimming pool and all that.. with more money, parents can provide their children with the best education, buy them fancy clothes. make up a birthday party and invite all their friends. they can have everything in the world. there's nothing that couldn't be done. they already have all the basic things and needs. all they have to do is simply chose how to lead their life. for poor people, the lack of money always seems to be the problem. how will i eat? how will i support my family? how to pay my education fees? how to pay the bills and all those things...

"the lack of money creates unhappiness". so why wouldn抰 the opposite be true? money does bring happiness.

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Post time 20-8-2007 09:11 PM | Show all posts

Reply #16 Navarrus's post

with more money, parents can provide their children with the best education, buy them fancy clothes. make up a birthday party and invite all their friends. they can have everything in the world. there's nothing that couldn't be done. they already have all the basic things and needs.


that is what it seems to appear to the naked eyes ain't it? wealth equates to happiness?

what if I were to tell u that the more you hv..the more u hunger for something bigger to makes u feel happy? Is that the pursuit of happiness?

I met children who seems to hv the biggest fun of their lives...when I went back to Melaka..and u know what brings the smile to their faces? And old pokok kelapa branch...they were laughing away...and I bet u they hv as much fun as the boy with his newest PS3 gadget or any fancyful gadges that their well to do parents can afford

Truth of the matter is...u are happy with what is familiar to you...when u are poor (financial not well off) chances are your world are small but that does not take away all the happiness that the simple pleasure brings with it...coz u do not know better

  
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Post time 20-8-2007 09:43 PM | Show all posts

Reply #16 Navarrus's post

"owns a big house, a swimming pool and all that.. with more money, parents can provide their children with the best education, buy them fancy clothes. make up a birthday party and invite all their friends. they can have everything in the world"

makes me wonder? :re:
what if I have lots of money? coz my parents gave me tons of it?
but they're too busy making money that they dont have enough time for me?
sitting by the swimming pool by myself as a child,
lives in a big house but often met with silence coz nobody waits for me whenever I come back from school,
having birthday parties with "selected" friends (most probably my parents' colleagues or associates children)

coming from a mid-class family with many siblings,
I dont think I'd want to live my life like that ..:re:
I'd probably be envious of other not-so-well-off kids who have their
parents hold their hands going to the pasar malam ...
or hear them talking abt foods that I do not know, yong taufu? jerangkung?
kuey-tiaw kerang? (unless if I ordered the maid to buy them for me from the pasar malam)
I'd miss my squabbles with my siblings over the dinner table,
I'd even miss my mom's nagging ..
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Post time 20-8-2007 09:45 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by dutchy at 20-8-2007 09:11 PM


I met children who seems to hv the biggest fun of their lives...when Iwent back to Melaka..and u know what brings the smile to their faces?And old pokok kelapa branch...they were laughing away...and I bet uthey hv as much fun as the boy with his newest PS3 gadget or anyfancyful gadges that their well to do parents can afford


thats because those kids dont know anything about ps2 orthe latest one yet. I bet you if they see that thing and play with it once,that old pokok kelapa branch will not come across their mind ever again.



however, i kinda agree with what u said...
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Post time 21-8-2007 09:44 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by ceper200 at 14-8-2007 04:57 PM
Duit bukan segala-galanya,tetapi segala-galanya di dunia perlukan duit......


Setuju dengan pendapat ni...................
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Post time 21-8-2007 01:00 PM | Show all posts

Reply #17 dutchy's post

Happiness cannot be quantified. We maybe richer than our neighbour but who's to say that we're happier than them?
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Post time 21-8-2007 08:04 PM | Show all posts
I think the happiest moment I had was when I was a kid.
No worries, all I could think of was playing.
Really missed those moments.
Money can't buy those moments.
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Post time 21-8-2007 09:03 PM | Show all posts

Reply #23 SONofODIN's post

Hmmm.... me too....

to think that it's not such a long time ago...

Whatever happens to men and women of today?


Say what you wanna say. We're just little kids, pretending to be adults.

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Post time 21-8-2007 09:19 PM | Show all posts

Reply #22 SONofODIN's post

true sonofodin, i miss my childhood memories too.. playing at the backyard with my siblings and waiting for our dad to come home from work everyday.. i really missed those moments.. they're precious
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Post time 21-8-2007 09:39 PM | Show all posts
Money and possessions won't buy you happiness but it will definitely help you in achieving happiness.
I'll be very happy if I fall in love again.

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Post time 21-8-2007 10:36 PM | Show all posts

Reply #1 Navarrus's post

i don't think so ...for me, happiness is not something that u can buy, u need to be sincere in order to be happy

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Post time 21-8-2007 11:39 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Navarrus at 14-8-2007 16:10
I would love to hear your thoughts on this one



To a certain extent, yes.
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Post time 24-8-2007 12:03 AM | Show all posts
i need money to buy food...and the food make me happy
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Post time 9-3-2008 05:34 AM | Show all posts

is happiness influenced by genes..

Genetik tentukan rasa gembira

WASHINGTON D.C - Tahap kegembiraan individu dalam menjalani kehidupan sebenarnya dipengaruhi oleh baka keturunan mereka, menurut kajian Universiti Edinburgh terhadap pasangan kembar seiras dan tidak seiras.

Kajian ke atas 900 pasangan kembar mendapati, pengaruh gen mempengaruhi setengah daripada personaliti yang mampu menyebabkan manusia berasa gembira. Selebihnya dikaitkan dengan cara hidup, jenis karier dan persahabatan.

Kajian yang dijalankan bersama Institut Kajian Perubatan Queensland di Australia itu menunjukkan pasangan kembar seiras menjelaskan personaliti serupa manakala keputusan sebaliknya bagi pasangan kembar tidak seiras.

"Saintis merujuk kepada individu yang menunjukkan sikap tidak risau, suka bersosiol dan teliti dalam membuat keputusan," kata Dr. Alexander Weiss daripada Fakulti Sains Falsafah, Psikologi dan Bahasa Edinburgh.

Menurut beliau, kegembiraan adalah aspek paling penting untuk perkembangan sikap manusia namun ia bergantung pada banyak faktor lain.

"Tetapi kini, saintis akhirnya berjaya menemui komponen kegembiraan. Genetik kini menjadi jawapan kepada pembentukan personaliti seseorang dan ia boleh diwarisi dari satu generasi ke generasi seterusnya," jelas Weiss. - Agensi




susah sikit aku nak terima benda ni.. tapi tu according to study kat univ of edinburgh tu.. pada aku gene tu tak ada kena mengena dengan perasaan gembira dalam kehidupan...  but then apa ke jadahnya research ni kata gene tentukan kita gembira..  pelik aku rasa...  forummers setuju ke ni..   kalu setuju..  boleh la fahamkan aku ek..      al maklum aku hal dalam2 cam gini tak berapa reti..  yg obvious boleh aku faham sikit...   sekolah tak tinggi mana aku ni..  
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Post time 9-3-2008 01:13 PM | Show all posts
nie pendapat i lah, dgn pengalaman berkeluarga dgn org yg "nampak cam tak happy"

ada manusia nie "pra-syarat" utk hidup terlalu komplikated, byk sgt syarat utk buat dia happy..dan gene komplikated nie memang diwarisi drp mak/ayah....depa tak happy sebab dapat naik kete, dia happy kalo kete dia ada 8 airbags....

camtu gak dgn pencapaian dia dlm hidup, ade org setakat dapat gaji n bekerja dah happy .... but for some people, satisfaction must come along with the money n power to make him ultimately happy person...maybe the father is somebody in public?...
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