Nak Bodi Slim & Fit

halil_ksbharta

err... pendorong tu rasernyer takder kot... cuma memang sebelum nih beberapa kali cuba.. tapi fail... bukan aper... dah macam jentera berat plak nih...  but... bebaru nih ader sorang aweks tu dia kater... sayer nih masalahnyer masih ada harapan nak pulih... dia cadangkan buat laser lipo kat klinik... untuk perut jer RM5K but dijamin... dia kater member dia dah buat... skrang bodi dah cantik katernyer...

hitamputih

Originally posted by halil_ksbharta at 18-9-2008 08:56 AM
err... pendorong tu rasernyer takder kot... cuma memang sebelum nih beberapa kali cuba.. tapi fail... bukan aper... dah macam jentera berat plak nih...牋but... bebaru nih ader sorang aweks t ...

heheh sebab aku rajin hari ni
no komen laa pasal klinik, aku kalau bleh tu tanak aaa kan, mahal gak RM 7 ribs tu, kalau kawin pun sparuh dah lepas
ada info di sini燵/size]

halil_ksbharta

hmmm... ok gak idea tu...

su1pink

alaaa..nape xde sape2 bg cadangan gi jumpa doktor mntak consultation & mntak dia buatkan diet plan?

hb kiter pn tgh nak lose weight skang ni..dia tggi xsmpai 170 pun, tp berat 90kg.pastu baru2 ni ada sorg kwn yg bdn besar jgk cam dia dpt kanser (xtaula ada kaitan dgn kegemukan dia tu) n then abg ipar (bdn besar jgk) baru2 ni dapat tau sperm count x cukup (xtau gak sbb genuk tu or sbb lain).so huby dah stat risau. sebelum ni dia mmg x penah kesah pun pasal kebesaran dia tu..

kiter cadang nk bwk dia gi klinik..consult dgn doktor..tp xtau klinik mana yg ada servis ni..anyone boleh tolong?

tasyha3

ada satu klinik kat shah alam + puncak alam.. nama klinik nye --> Rohani dan rakan2.. kalo x silap.. my boss yang suggest pegi klinik ni.. lepas 3 bulan confirm slim.. doctor pun boleh guarantee akan turun 10-15 kg.. masa memula buat diet ni, mmg pening la sikit.. badan x lart.. but, after that, ok la sikit.. tasyha penah buat, dalam masa sebulan je, dah turun 7kg ( masa start diet ni, tasyha baru je lepas buat surgey gigi, so cepat la turun coz x makn).. every month kena check ngn doctor.. nk tgk sesuai ke x diet yang die buat ngn korang.. at the same time, tasyha main tennis..cepat la sikit nk turun kalo korang bersenam + diet.. mmg suffer, tp bile badan dah ringan, rase best je..

-tasyha buat sebulan je, pas2 dah x g.. hehhehe.. bz la.. x sempat2.. ingt lepas raye ni, nk buat balik..

drm

Salam semua.

Ada ramai yang tanya pasal masalah berat badan. Saya rasa perubahan gaya hidup paling penting. Kalau tak ubah cara pemakanan, dan sertakan senaman, diet macam mana pun samada tak menjadi atau jadi tapi macam yoyo sebab dalam seminggu semua berat yang hilang akan datang balik. Saya ada cadangan yang mungkin berkesan untuk semua orang. Kalau dah nekad untuk menukar lifestyle and stick to it bolehlah cuba. Insyaallah berjaya. ada org tanya kat forum english lain so saya masukkan kat sini ok:

Hi fhura,
Sorry for the late reply. How are you? Are you planning to reduce your weight?

I'll tell you how I did it after many years of failed attempts.
The plan is actually quite simple but you have to stick to it no matter what.
First measure your weight in Kg, then your height in meters. Calculate your Body Mass Index by dividing your weight (kg) by the square of your height (m2): weight(kg)/heightXheight (m). Your BMI should be less then 25. BMI of 25 to 30 is overweight and 30 to 35 is obese. You can then calculate your ideal weight by substituting the numbers in the formula to get a BMI of 25.

OK, next measure your waist  at the navel. Males should be < or equals to34, females <or equals to 28. Any more than this puts you at a greater risk for heart disease.

So now you have an idea of what you should aim for. Personally, I think the waist measurement is much more important. The BMI may be in the overweight area but may be normal especially if you have lost fat and gained more muscle (fat is lighter than muscle).

Next....get a blood test. You can do this through your GP or from some labs. The basic should include a full blood count, kidney/renal function, liver funtion, Cholesterol profile, fasting blood sugar, Urine analysis.
Hormone imbalances are the commonest cause of weight gain, inability to lose weight or weight loss plateau, and regaining the weight lost.

A thyroid profile is also important to know as inadequate thyroid function may cause weight gain. Get a TSH, Free T4 and Free T3 tested and morning serum cortisol.

BTW, if you are a woman, hormones play a major role in weight gain and loss especially a lack of progesterone. This is indicated by irregular menses, severe PMS symptoms, breast tenderness during menstruation, polycystic ovaries etc. In this case you should check your serum progesterone level on day 21 of your menstrual cycle. Men are also affected by hormone especially if  a person is more than 35. There can be a reduction of growth hormone and testosterone which leads to obesity.

OK, got the results back. You can send me the results if you want me to have a look. Some results may seem normal but not optimal and will require correction.

Assuming all your results are normal, we can begin.... If not hormone deficiencies may have to be corrected.

Weight management is about life style change. If you don't change what you're doing it either won't go away or it will come back to haunt you.
The basic diet I follow now is zero or minimal simple carbs like sugar, sweets, chocolates. read labels..if the sugar is an ingredient don't buy it. potatoes are also high in simple carbs.
High complex or low glycemic carbs from fruits (epals, pears, guava-without asamboi, apricots, kiwi), vegetable, whole grain and nuts.
High Protein from fish and poultry, occasionally beef.

So, this is how I lost weight.....pay attention..

2 Weeks Intensive Phase:

Breakfast: Mee Hoon Soup with extra chicken and fish ball, less noodle-1bowl
                Only drink plain or better still mineral or RO water.
Lunch: Meal replacement drink (make sure it is a complete meal: carbs,protein, fat, vitamins)- mix with water. (about 250 cal)
Dinner: Meal replacement drink

I drank lots of water for 2 reasons, 1) I thought I was hungry but in actual fact, I was thirsty. This was crucial to learn. After drinking water, I realized I was no longer hungry. 2) It keeps me well hydrated and flushes out all the toxins in my body.

I also took a good multivitamin, which is high in chromium, selenium, zinc and vitamin E. Important factors for optimal bodily enzyme funtions.

You see fhura, most people who tried to do it my way failed within the first week. That's because they were not determined enough and they think it can't be that simple. I'm amazed that people seem to prefer complex solutions. It is this simple. Stick to this and you will be amazed at your own body. Some people argue that a low calorie diet is not good. studies show that reducing calories extends your lifespan. For people who are obese, this is the only way to overhaul that engine and start you metabolism working for you...optimally burning fat and building muscle.

You can change the food you take for breakfast to something else if you want but this is the best. For further recommendations visit my blog@ www.secrets2health.blogspot.com.

What next:
After the 2 weeks you will feel a new level of energy and determination as you see your weight reduce. So time for step 2.

Yahooo!! Now you can eat 2 nutritious meals...breakfast and lunch. again no simple sugar, high in protein . As Malaysians you may miss the rice. My advise to you is take a quarter of what you used to take. replace the rest with vegetable and fish or poultry. You may take low glycemic fruits 1 per meal e.g. 1 apple. Also, Remove the skin from the chicken.

Take the meal replacement for dinner so that your stomach does not have to work hard, digesting the food while you sleep. Also remember the vitamins.

At this stage start to exercise to build up muscle. I have the exercise recommendations at my blog. do both cardio and strength. Swimming is a good option as it is weightless, and it is both cardio and strength. Remember, you will be losing both fat and some muscle during the first phase and its time to replace the muscle. You do not want to have flabby skin hanging out do you. I did not exercise during the first stage. There were too many biologic changes to adjust to and you will feel weak the first week as the body detoxifies. All this will go away after 1 week.

Do the second stage till you are happy with your weight. This may take 4-6 months but you wouldn't want to lose any faster. You need time to build your muscle to avoid flab.Even by losing 5 kg, you would have added 5-8 years to a healthy life.

after 3-4 weeks of stage 2, and as your physical activity increases, add a snack of low glycemic fruit at 11am and 4 pm to stabilze your blood sugar and your hormones.

Occasinally you will need to add Liquid L-Carnitine to boost your fat buring if there is a plateau.

I promise you, you will feel so good about yourself. Imagine fitting into clothes when you were in secondary school!! You'll be digging your closet for these!hehehe. So time to go shopping. I did my shopping a bit to early...I lost more weight and had to go shopping again.

People you've not seen for a while will start commenting on how good you look and this is the ultimate self esteem boost I've had for a long time since I've always been known to be fat.

Once your desired weight is achieved, stick to you meal plan. Have the occasional cake or chocolate and see that the occasional treat will not touch your weight as your metabolism can now handle it.

I really hope this will inspire you and wish you all the best in achieving your goal. Contact me at any time and I'll try to help.

Best regards,

Mahathir Mohamed, M.D.
General Physician and Anti-aging Medicine Practitioner.

su1pink

Originally posted by drm at 18-9-2008 12:55 PM
Next....get a blood test. You can do this through your GP or from some labs. The basic should include a full blood count, kidney/renal function, liver funtion, Cholesterol profile, fasting blood sugar, Urine analysis.
Hormone imbalances are the commonest cause of weight gain, inability to lose weight or weight loss plateau, and regaining the weight lost.

A thyroid profile is also important to know as inadequate thyroid function may cause weight gain. Get a TSH, Free T4 and Free T3 tested and morning serum cortisol.

camne nak wat blood test yang boleh dapat semua result2 tu?GP tu ape?  maaflah tny soklan yg agak2 bodoh ni...
berminat la...nak tolong hb kiter..kerja dia skang pun memerlukan dia sntiasa fit..kesian dia..

drm

Hi su,
Tak de soalan bodoh. GP tu general practitioner, doktor biasa kat mana2 klinik swasta. Ujian darah tu senang je nak buat, puasa selama 10jam lepas tu boleh ambil darah lebih kurang 10ml je and check kencing sekali. Boleh tuliskan ujian yang saya sarankan...doktor tu mesti tahu.

Ada apa2 soalan lagi boleh pm saya ye.

Mahathir

halil_ksbharta

thanks dr. m

halil_ksbharta

tasyha... klinik tu beri consultancy tuk cara diet jer ker... atau dia ada program tertentu kena buat sebelum diet... criter lar sket more detail..

budak_comei

Originally posted by halil_ksbharta at 17-9-2008 11:56 AM
dengar citer ader klinik yg bleh buat laser lipo... buang lemak ngan leser... ader sesaper tau... ceriter lar sket kat cini...

mmg ade pun ...ramai yg dah buat....termasuk la aku neh
tapi aku bukan gemuk ke ape...aku ni kurus kering mcm papan cuma saja membuang lemak kat perut...bagi perut nampak flat

halil_ksbharta

thanks for da info...

halil_ksbharta

oo... yer ker... criter lat sket...

izzah_mia

[quote]Originally posted by budak_comei at 19-9-2008 04:42 PM


dak comei buat kat ne??bapa kos ek??

dyazz

ni bkn utk lelaki jewkan/??
hehe..dyazz pown nk ptua nk kurus gak~
tgg dyazz 170 brat dlm 57~
dyazz nk slim cggane neh??
huhu~any gud idea??

halil_ksbharta

ingat lepas raye nanti nak try lar JDM5 yg mama ika cadangkan ari tu... tgk kat blog dia... ader wakil cheras KL... harap berjaya ler...

halil_ksbharta

dyazz pon bleh try JDM5 dulu... try la PM mama ika tu... kalau tak jadik cuba lar alternatif lain...

Leybra

Bro, cadangan aku, pegi la registerkan diri anda di any fitness club kat malaysia ni, pastu ambil sekali personal trainer utk at least 12 season. Lebih berbaloi habis duit ke situ daripada habis duit pada produk2 perlangsingan wat-so-ever, janji bagai nak rak tapi result ciput jek.. kalau bro pegi fitness.. metabolisme meningkat, tu key paling penting kalau nak kurus.. bila metabolisme meningkat, tak perlu nak berlapar sgr2 utk kurus..

aku kata berdasarkan pengalaman..

budak_comei

Originally posted by halil_ksbharta at 20-9-2008 07:49 AM
oo... yer ker... criter lat sket...

ha u g kat bod BTF tu....
cari thread lipolisis ok

budak_comei

Originally posted by izzah_mia at 22-9-2008 09:51 AM
[quote]Originally posted by budak_comei at 19-9-2008 04:42 PM


dak comei buat kat ne??bapa kos ek??

wat kat klinik la izzah
kos dia dlm 2k+++