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Post time 12-8-2015 04:34 PM | Show all posts

btw dah check dgn mahkamah ttg kesahihan saman?
call no mahkamah yg terdekat ye, bukan nombor yg call you

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Post time 12-8-2015 05:52 PM | Show all posts
rayna_raynes replied at 12-8-2015 02:33 PM
kalau commercial loan mmg biasa, esp yg dibiarkan tak berbayar sampai dah accumulate

memang lah, tambahan pula untuk kes 12 tahun.....berkali kali kali ganda lah interestnyaa...

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Post time 12-8-2015 06:24 PM | Show all posts
First thing first, Mama @Mamason kena gi court, takut nanti kena Contempt Of Court tak pepasal.
Go there so that you can see what is what.
Then you kene prepare la defense you.
Court is court. Takleh main main je.
If you are declared Bankrupt, alahai byk sgt takleh buat.. nak kuar masuk Mesiaraya takbleh, senaraihitam banks etc etc.
Pegi dulu dulu court tu.

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Post time 12-8-2015 06:25 PM | Show all posts
..by the way... if u really hutang depa RM8k dulu dulu tu, sekarang di dah berbillion dah.
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Post time 12-8-2015 09:03 PM | Show all posts
Edited by nuryakmal at 12-8-2015 09:04 PM

Akak tak terima sama thats not the issue. Sebab saman akan dihantar mengikut alamat ic atau/dan juga alamat terakhir yg diketahui i.e dalam agreement. In the event dia hntr via post akak tak terima pihak penyaman boleh request minta court hebah through suratkhabar dan lain2 medium. So penghantaran saman itu sempurna walaupun akak tak terima saman.. Dalam limitation act it mentioned uncan only proceed with ur claim within 6 years. So andai kata dalam masa 6 years tu ada tindakan dr courts u cant say u dont know. Thats why ur lawyers decided to bail out sebab diorang da tau this case is highly unlikely they would win.

Since u said pernah dapat surat well duhh akak yg senyap buat donno. Bila dapat surat dulu u shouldve gone to the courts mintak judgement. U failed doing so. So the best thing is hadir di mahkamah, dapatkan judgment dan mungkin boleh berusurusan dengan peguam courts utk pembayaran. Mungkin i say mungkin boleh dibuat lump sum atau sedikit2 bergantung pada judgement yg baru.


Tu laaaaa jangan main2 sama court. Walaupun court mammoth
Harap settle la

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Post time 12-8-2015 09:19 PM | Show all posts
Kalau ikutkan court mammoth tu da dapat judgement in default i.e the court decided in favour of the plaintiff not because of the claim but akak tak respond to the summon earlier. Twice pulak tu. tapi Akak boleh buat permohonan utk set aside the judgement. Mungkin atas alasan penyampaian tak sempurna walau tak logic sebab akak dapat surat saman 2 kali dan mesej tel..(?!).. Kena ada alasan kukuh la nak set aside the judgement. Kalau the courts is in your favour the process will start all over again i.e court mamoth akan bagi akak saman pemula bla bla so akak kena respond to that saman pemula via affidavit. So pung pang pung pang mungkin dapat kurangkan kena saman tu sebab akak cakap akak pulangkan barang. Harusla ada buktikan. Ade ke(?!).... Kalau dapat dibuktikan sonu can settle it in a much lesssrr amount.

Paling senang kalau dpaat set aside the judgement kautim dengan loyer courts mintak out of court settlement.
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Post time 13-8-2015 12:58 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Fuh .dasyat2..bagus gak forum ni dapat gak legal advice dr kengkawan yg tahu..peringatan utk me jugak ni..

Mama..mami rasa baik mama ikut nasihat deme ni..gi mahkamah  tanya betul2.. jgn buat senyap..
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Post time 13-8-2015 10:59 AM | Show all posts
nuryakmal replied at 12-8-2015 09:19 PM
Kalau ikutkan court mammoth tu da dapat judgement in default i.e the court decided in favour of the  ...

dia sebut surat lawyer i bayangkan NOD
hahaha


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Post time 13-8-2015 11:09 AM | Show all posts
rayna_raynes replied at 13-8-2015 10:59 AM
dia sebut surat lawyer i bayangkan NOD
hahaha

I dont think so. Ni da tahap dapat JID dah. Tu yg kalau tak datang kena waran tangkap da tu. dua hearing fail to show up
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Post time 13-8-2015 11:52 AM | Show all posts
nuryakmal replied at 13-8-2015 11:09 AM
I dont think so. Ni da tahap dapat JID dah. Tu yg kalau tak datang kena waran tangkap da tu. dua h ...

kejap aku blur
aku baca balik 1st post dia
baru terbaca part dia dpt writ
tp kalau dia appear, tidaklah dikira JID, no?
iol student je so my knowledge might be flawed
tp yg iol tau lepas 14 days of service dia tak file appearance terus plaintiff boleh file JIDA w/o having to attend court
ke ini praktis di court of sabah/sarawak je?
kecuali JDS, baru boleh issue warrant of arrest kalau JD tak appear
tp JDS kena serve by personal service kan?

mohon pencerahan kaka lawyer


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Post time 13-8-2015 02:45 PM | Show all posts
rayna_raynes replied at 13-8-2015 11:52 AM
kejap aku blur
aku baca balik 1st post dia
baru terbaca part dia dpt writ

eh tak la. ni mmg termaktub dalam rules of courts. at the moment correct me if im wrong sebab da tak practice there's only 2 ways of starting a proceeding now i.e. through writ of summon and originating summon. yup kalau dia hadir dan contest, takde JID sebab dia akan contest the claim. warrant of arrest to keluar sebab akak ni miss the court appearance. When you miss that court appearance a warrant is issued.  You will be brought to court to answer those questions.. itu saja.. takde lah kena masuk jail..

sorry JDS is? not familiar with the term

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Post time 13-8-2015 03:13 PM | Show all posts
Edited by rayna_raynes at 13-8-2015 03:17 PM
nuryakmal replied at 13-8-2015 02:45 PM
eh tak la. ni mmg termaktub dalam rules of courts. at the moment correct me if im wrong sebab da t ...

JDs is judgment debtor summons. execution proceedings after judgment obtained

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Post time 13-8-2015 03:41 PM | Show all posts
rayna_raynes replied at 13-8-2015 03:13 PM
JDs is judgment debtor summons. execution proceedings after judgment obtained

ohh .. we used to called it JD saja

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 Author| Post time 13-8-2015 04:18 PM | Show all posts
TQ all for the advice...  in sya allah mama akan follow semua advice... Tq yer...
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Post time 14-8-2015 12:32 PM | Show all posts
waran tangkap tu JDS la tu.... ..so confirm dah lepas JID....tapi waran tangkap ni useless kalu waran tu tak receive by hand...

pastu rules baru kalu tak enter appearance  masa 14 hari lepas saman tu dihantar konfirm JID dah.. takyah beria sangat datang court .. buang masa dgn duit je
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Post time 14-8-2015 02:56 PM | Show all posts
No wonder people dont trust the system kalau gaya ni la nasihatnya. Dont show up to court or lawyers appointed left the client without notice.alhamdulillah sangat
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Post time 19-8-2015 06:05 AM | Show all posts
Edited by bypassthecortex at 19-8-2015 06:14 AM

scam tuh kak, sekarang Malaysia dah teruk, orang makin jahat, sial sial semua ni mintak senarai nama defaulters kat court mammoth, singers etc, buat letterhead ala2 law firm sikit (ada perkataan "partner" contoh NakHaram Partners) pas tu pegi ugut.....tapi sekarang ni geng2 sial ni dah susah cari makan, dah siap jual bini bagai, sebab orang pun takde duit nak bayar orang lawan balik dengan penumbuk, ko push orang ke corner orang lawan balik la, ikut jangkaan aku tak lama lagi banyak kes sial2 kena hentak dek defaulters2 ni, bagusla.......orang hidup atas kesusahan orang lain memang bagus pegi mampus............POWER TO THE OPPRESSED   .... Lawan balik kalau dia call mama, diorang ni ingat diorang je brutal, orang lain dia tak ingat, pakai baju lambang GLOCK, pegang hujung pistol pun tak pernah..........tok guru aku pesan mama "orang lain ada parang, kita pun ada parang, nak datang tengok parang siapa lagi tajam, mari lah".......Malaysia tengah susah sekarang, duit susah cari mama, jangan bagi orang senang2 tipu.....

Sebab apa aku marah sangat? AKU TAK PERNAH ADA KREDIT CARD LA BANK BABI, KO TAK DAPAT SAMAN AKU APSAL KO SURUH SIAL2 NI KACAU AKU? Ni la Malaysia, benda takde pun boleh diadakan....system of the down...hahahaha.....
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Post time 19-8-2015 12:16 PM | Show all posts
bypassthecortex replied at 19-8-2015 06:05 AM
scam tuh kak, sekarang Malaysia dah teruk, orang makin jahat, sial sial semua ni mintak senarai nama ...

kalau marah sangat pun, sila elakkan vulgar language kat board ni ye..

terima kasih..
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Post time 19-8-2015 01:50 PM | Show all posts
nuryakmal replied at 13-8-2015 11:09 AM
I dont think so. Ni da tahap dapat JID dah. Tu yg kalau tak datang kena waran tangkap da tu. dua h ...

ok kak lawyer, nak tanya sikit, katalah dua saman sblm ni tt ni gagal hadir, tp katanya yg kali ketiga ni
hanya melalui sms.. valid ke saman melalui sms shj? tanpa amik kira dua saman sebelum n notis suratkhabar sebelum ni if ada..

tu yg saya jdik curiga, betul ke saman mahkamah? atau tt hya dpt ugutan dr debt collector jer.. sekadar nak tahu..
ada kemungkinan ke sebab kes dh 12 tahun..

btw, tq momod utk kredit, hoho..
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Post time 19-8-2015 08:17 PM | Show all posts
nuryakmal replied at 12-8-2015 09:19 PM
Kalau ikutkan court mammoth tu da dapat judgement in default i.e the court decided in favour of the  ...

Exactly; ni kira dah JD kan? Sorry tak sempat baca semua semua cuma rasa nye lagi elok forumer tu gi bincang dgn CM je kan? Sebab dah sah dah salah ( do you think so?, i mean forumer tentu dah terlepas peluang utk mintak 'frivolous summons' etc, kan? also ini bukan frivolous pon, they have a real dan substantial case against forumer. suka cases law.. kawan saya lawyer dok citer pasal cases and summons je..
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