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Post time 3-1-2008 09:44 AM | Show all posts
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Post time 3-1-2008 09:44 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by idolfan at 3-1-2008 09:40 AM
yup memang. i memang susah nak buat falsetto dan nak tukar dr chest voice ke falsetto. tatau ar nak buat camne. hehehe. pening jek try. wish i tau camne nak improve bhgn tu...



u kan kawan baik dgn sapik, sure dia leh pecah lubang
i mean pecah rahsia.

i rasa maybe sapik suke makan kuku ayam kot
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Reply #400 shuffeak's post

yay!...hua hua hua..
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Post time 3-1-2008 09:45 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by shuffeak at 3-1-2008 09:43 AM


meh blaja ngan aku meh,tp nk kene bg jam mahal tuh dulu

tp ko punye tone itself dah ckup mantap



not enuff when u have buiscasey, sapik, najei and stone
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Post time 3-1-2008 09:45 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by alyana at 3-1-2008 09:44 AM



u kan kawan baik dgn sapik, sure dia leh pecah lubang
i mean pecah rahsia.

i rasa maybe sapik suke makan kuku ayam kot


perlu ke nama i disapikkan?
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Post time 3-1-2008 09:47 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by shuffeak at 3-1-2008 09:45 AM


perlu ke nama i disapikkan?



idol fan yg ajar

apa nama yg lebih sesuai dr idolfan, takut nak sebut nama tu, mcm nama berhala patung jek
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Post time 3-1-2008 09:48 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by alyana at 3-1-2008 09:33 AM



i knew idol and sapik punye tones, and ur vocal range and capabilities.

both of u unik, and i might say fall to different categories.meaning,  wajar ke nak compare avril lavigne dgn christina aguilera.

but having said that,  headtone idol mmg best, but he weak in falsettoand the transition from chest to falsetto ( agaknnya ni yg akandinamakan sebagai passagio) but my bahasa is bridge. but shuffeak isvery excellent in falsetto, but headone wise is not as rich as idolfan.


Errr... head tone and falsetto apa bezanya? Head tone is just the english term for the italian word falsetto. Same register, different language terms. Please jangan terkeliru. I have noticed that most local vocal teachers (especially those trained locally by local teachers) have misunderstood this. And a lot of vocal students are learning this wrong mistake and propagating this misunderstood terminology.

Falsetto means false, and it is the italian term used to describe the 'false' voice above the chest and middle registers, i.e. head register. Also known as head voice, or head tone.

Men have three registers: chest, middle (a blend of chest and head), and head (falsetto). Women generally have two: chest (often the speaking voice) and head. Some are lucky and have a third register: the whistle register, like Mariah Carey and Nikki. Some men, with proper training, can develop the whistle register, like Hazami.

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Post time 3-1-2008 09:51 AM | Show all posts

Reply #408 VernMrManager's post

morning vernnnnn
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Post time 3-1-2008 09:52 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by VernMrManager at 3-1-2008 09:48 AM


Errr... head tone and falsetto apa bezanya? Head tone is just the english term for the italian word falsetto. Same register, different language terms. Please jangan terkeliru. I have noticed  ...



but mr vern, some gurus said, yes falsetto come from head, meaning come from head register, thats why they bezakan secara voice. meaning falsetto voice and headtone voice.


falsetto is more airy yet lack of power and lest resonan. it is like hembusan angin. kindoff la.  whereas headvoice is more resonance and richer than falsetto. which is a solid sebutan but we triggered in head register. but the best of all is mixed voice.


apa pendapat vern?    i pun dah confuse sbb byk guru
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Post time 3-1-2008 09:53 AM | Show all posts

Reply #409 shuffeak's post

morning shuff :tea:
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Post time 3-1-2008 09:54 AM | Show all posts
morning semua..

wah korang ni ramai yang ada ilmu pasal vokal.. aku ni langsung xtau.. main blSASAH JER... huhu
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Post time 3-1-2008 09:55 AM | Show all posts
hehe.. ok discuss... jgn salah lagi.. aku pun naik pening.. faisetto, chest voice la.. macamana nak hasilkan bunyi2 tue... bleh bagi penerangan?
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Post time 3-1-2008 09:55 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by pinguin at 3-1-2008 09:54 AM
morning semua..

wah korang ni ramai yang ada ilmu pasal vokal.. aku ni langsung xtau.. main blSASAH JER... huhu



masalhnya among guru pun ada mazhab masing

yg penting sebagai student n penyanyi , ambik je lah mana2
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Post time 3-1-2008 09:58 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by pinguin at 3-1-2008 09:55 AM
hehe.. ok discuss... jgn salah lagi.. aku pun naik pening.. faisetto, chest voice la.. macamana nak hasilkan bunyi2 tue... bleh bagi penerangan?



chest voice is ur speaking languange. ur normal voice.
and if you go down subut ghaaaaaa, ghaaaaarrrrr u will reach the maximum lowest note but kena tahu breating n placement kot.



falsetto, cuba u sebut huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu, tp secara sebutan angin, hurmmmm ni susah nak bagilah



headtone, cuba u sebut weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee makin lama makin tinggi weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee



cuba u tanya abng vern lak?
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Post time 3-1-2008 09:59 AM | Show all posts

Reply #410 alyana's post

I don't know which gurus you learned from but I studied at the Royal School of Church Music and also at the London College of Music and both schools were quite clear. Falsetto and head voice or head tone are the same thing, just different terms.

A lot of vocal teachers make this common mistake. I am now trying to rectify this lack of understanding in terminolgy so as not to confuse the contestants here.

You can make a note sound airy or you can thicken it by adding support and focus, but the note is still the same note in the same register. And either it is in the chest register or in the head register. (You can sing the same note in two different registers ONLY when it is part of your passagio. Some people have wide passagios, but the general span is about three notes.)

Please don't confuse yourself.
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Post time 3-1-2008 09:59 AM | Show all posts

Reply #413 pinguin's post

mee pun nak tau .
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Post time 3-1-2008 10:01 AM | Show all posts

Reply #415 alyana's post

klo yana leh record lagi besh . baca je pening arr
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Post time 3-1-2008 10:04 AM | Show all posts
Have a good day ahead, guys! Bye.
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Post time 3-1-2008 10:05 AM | Show all posts

Reply #408 VernMrManager's post

morning vern.

its quite weird forme, i cant buat falsetto mcm shuffeak leh buat. but i can access soprano punya kind of sound...mcm mane nak ckp ek..my falsetto tends to sound higher and louder...kalau falsetto mcm whispery tu..its difficult for me to do...
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Post time 3-1-2008 10:05 AM | Show all posts
head tone in women, falsetto in men
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