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b) Memang kita tak boleh lawan nabi Muhammad tapi kan Allah is the highest authority. Why nabi Muhammad yang decide which revelations go into the Quran? If this is true, aku rasa dia dah overstepped his mandate - and you find this acceptable? I don't.
Kenapa decision itu dilihat sebagai overstepped his mandate? Kenapa decision itu tidak dilihat sebagai arahan/petunjuk daripada Allah swt?
Segala keputusan Nabi SAW adalah petunjuk dari Allah SWT.
“And when Our Clear Verses are recited unto them, those who hope not for their meeting with Us, say: Bring us a Quran other than this, or change it.”Say (O Muhammad SAW): “It is not for me to change it on own accord; I only follow that which is revealed unto me. Verily, I fear if I were to disobey my Lord, the torment of the Great Day (i.e. the Day of Resurrection).
(Quran, Surah Yunus 10:15).
la betul la kan orang christian percaya dengan konsep triniti.. the son, the father and the holy ghost. Yang mana satu diaorang refer sebagai tuhan pun tak tahu
Itu la tanda ZN dan orang Islam tu prihatin. Sudi berkongsi ilmu dan kebenaran.
Dalam dunia ni ada bidang comparative religion. Banyak universiti termasuk di Barat mengajar matapelajaran ni dan melahirkan pakar-pakar. Jadi apa salahnya mereka berkongsi ilmu. Supaya orang ramai dapat membuat perbandingan dan memilih jalan yang benar.
Pakar comparative religion seperti Ahmad Deedat, turut dijemput berdebat dengan paderi di negara-negara maju seperti US, Australia, London dan lain-lain.
Tiada masalah pun.
Dan jangan ingat tak ada ceramah mengenai kepincangan Islam. Bukan saje ceramah, malah usaha memburukkan Islam dilakukan setiap hari melalui media, buku, rencana dan lain-lain medium perantaraan.
Jadi orang-orang seperti ZN dan Ahmad Deedat inilah yang bangkit untuk membuktikan bahawa Islam itu agama yang benar.
Itu quran mengikut kaedah pembacaan. Asas dan semua isi kandungannya tetap sama.
Lain dengan bible. Bible diterjemahkan dari bahasa Aramaic ke greek. Kemudian ke bahasa-bahasa lain. Akhirnya terhasil beribu-ribu versi bible dalam dunia ni. Semua berbeza antara satu sama lain. Itu tidak termasuk tambahan dan pengurangan ayat @perkataan yang dibuat oleh persidangan kristian.
Dan memang pernah berlaku pengurangan dan tambahan dalam bible. Betul tak? Cuba ko buktikan ada berlaku pengurangan dan tambahan dalam Quran. Boleh?
Mengapa pula palsu. Nabi Muhammad SAW adalah seorang yang buta huruf. Beliau tidak mampu untuk menghasilkan satu kitab yang menakjubkan dan bahasa tinggi seperti Al Quran.
Beliau juga digelar Al Amin iaitu seorang yang sangat boleh dipercayai. Gelaran tersebut turut diktiraf oleh arab-arab jahiliyah ketika itu. Jadi apabila seorang yang sangat boleh dipercayai mengatakan bahawa ia membawa kebenaran, adakah kita perlu sangsi?
Nampak tak aturan Tuhan? Dua perkara ini (Nabi SAW buta huruf dan seorang yang boleh dipercayai) sekelip mata dapat menyangkal segala tuduhan bahawa Al Quran itu direka oleh Nabi S.A.W.
Situasi Nabi SAW berbeza. Beliau berkahwin bukan atas sebab nafsu atau kehendak sendiri. Ia telah ditentukan oleh Allah SWT dan ada sebab.
Sebab utama ada kerana Siti Aishah itu muda. Sebagai kanak-kanak beliau cepat belajar dan akan ingat apa yang diajarkan oleh Rasulullah SAW. Hasilnya beliau menjadi salah seorang yang paling rapat dengan Nabi SAW dan paling banyak meriwayatkan hadis.
Nampak tak bagaimana Tuhan mengatur setiap hambaNya.
Balik pada isu pokok, ko tak boleh kata ZN menghina kristian. Menghina ni bila ko gunakan perkataan tidak baik ke atas agama lain. Contoh Kalau ZN kata kristian tu 'bodoh' atau 'bebal' itu baru dikira menghina. Ini ZN hanya menunjukkan kepada kepincangan dan ketidak konsisten dalam kitab agama lain.
Boleh tanya tak? kenapa ko suka pakai emocon ketawa? Berdasarkan pemerhatian aku, selalunya orang yang kurang keyakinan diri dan takde fakta suka pakai emocon ketawa ni. Mereka akan guna emocon tu untuk menutup kelemahan diri... betul tak?
oh ye ke..orang bodoh je..RAMAI menghafal ye...
disebakan ramai hafal..sure surah tu ade lagi kan..RAMAI noooo hafal.. bak mai surah rejam tu sini...kami semua nak belajar...
hanya orang bodoh je caya orang ada buikti surah dimakan kambeng hilang tapi ada but tak mau kongsi...
so..straight to the point...bagi je ...since ko n mullah claim ramai hafal..
Apakah hukum2 dan peraturan2 yg Allah SWT wahyukan kpd Nabi2 sebelumnya....
Siapa yg mula2 bina Kaabah? Nabi Ibrahim as.
Dari mana dtgnya suruhan mengerjakan Haji??
Berpuasa, Berkhatan, Solat Nabi2 sebelumnya ?
Kiblat dari Jerusalem kepada Mekah ?
Who can be better in religion than one who submits his whole self to Allah,
does good, and follows the way of Abraham the true in Faith?
For Allah did take Abraham for a friend.
(Quran Surah An-Nisaa 4:125)
Umat Nabi Muhammad SAW diperintahkan mengikut Agama Nabi Ibrahim as yg lurus.
Al Quran adalah Final Testament.
Hukum Zina rejam adalah Hukum Allah SWT dari Kitab2 sebelumnya..
Lev. 20:10 ‘The man who commits adultery with another man’s wife, he who commits adultery with his neighbor’s wife, the adulterer and the adulteress, shall surely be put to death. Deut. 22:22-24 “If a man is found lying with a woman married to a husband, then both of them shall die—the man that lay with the woman, and the woman; so you shall put away the evil from Israel. If a young woman who is a virgin is betrothed to a husband, and a man finds her in the city and lies with her, then you shall bring them both out to the gate of that city, and you shall stone them to death with stones, the young woman because she did not cry out in the city, and the man because he humbled his neighbor’s wife; so you shall put away the evil from among you.”
Inila dia Ayat Rajm didlm Kitab2 Allah SWT sebelumnya...
Ayat2 rejam ni masih KEKAL hingga ke skrg dlm Torah dan Bible.
Adakah ayat rejam ia dilupakan?.....TIDAK.
Tidaklah mungkin Al Quran ini dibuat oleh selain Allah; akan tetapi ( Al Quran itu )
membenarkan kitab-kitab yang sebelumnya dan menjelaskan hukum-hukum
yang telah ditetapkannya, tidak ada keraguan di dalamnya,
( diturunkan ) dari tuhan semesta alam.
( Quran Surah Yunus 10:37)
Ayat Rejam TIDAK PERNAH ADA didalam Mushaf Al Quran, ia cuma
Kalam Allah SWT yg tertulis atas kulit2 binatang yg BELUM lagi
menjadi sebahagian dari Mushaf Al Quran dan telah di Nasakh semasa Nabi SAW masih hidup..
Who Are Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John?
A doctor, a fisherman, a tax collector, and another who was just a teenager when he heard the Savior speak, they wrote some of the most famous books in existence.
We recognize their names immediately. Their names are attached to the first four books of the New Testament. And most important of all, their writings are almost all we have describing the mortal life of Jesus Christ and the things He said.
The first four books of the New Testament are called the Gospels. It’s easy to imagine why these books were written and why they have always been so important. Can you imagine how exciting it would have been for people who were just learning about the Savior to have someone read to them the things He said and did? These books have always been precious.
[backcolor=rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.00784314)]Matthew and John were two of the original Twelve Apostles. They were with the Savior often as He taught. But who were Mark and Luke, and how did they come to write about the Savior’s life and ministry?
[backcolor=rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.00784314)]Here are a few things scholars know about the four men who wrote their testimonies of the Savior. 1
[size=1.8]Matthew was a publican, or tax collector, before he was called as one of the Lord’s Apostles. Because of that profession, we can guess that he was well educated and knew how to read and write, probably in several languages, including Greek. He also knew arithmetic. He saw and heard many wonderful things while with the Savior, and it is likely he wrote down some of the sayings of the Savior as notes or in a journal. Later, these notes would have helped him when he wrote what he remembered about the teachings of Jesus.
[size=1.8]In his book, Matthew often stresses that Jesus Christ is the Messiah and came to fulfill the Old Testament prophecies. Matthew wrote specifically to the Jews, who were familiar with those prophecies.
[size=1.8]Matthew was a man who could have moved comfortably in political circles, and his book mentions things that someone in his position would know. For example, his account of the Resurrection tells that those assigned to guard the Savior’s tomb saw two angels roll back the stone that covered the door of the tomb. They told their superiors what had happened, so the soldiers were offered large sums of money to say that the Lord’s followers had crept in and carried His body away. This lie was then spread among the Jews. (See Matthew 28:2–15.) Matthew must have been informed about the bribery. The book of Matthew is the only place this interesting bit of information is told.
[backcolor=rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.00784314)]Mark
[size=1.8]Mark was much younger than the other writers. His mother was a prominent follower of Jesus Christ. Acts 12:12 tells us that her house in Jerusalem was used as a meeting place for other disciples. From this verse we also learn that her son’s full name is John Mark.
[size=1.8]Mark was also a follower of Jesus Christ but would likely have been in his teens when the Lord was in Jerusalem. He may have seen and listened to the Savior on occasion. After the Resurrection, as the Savior’s message was beginning to be spread, Mark traveled with the Apostle Paul. He then accompanied the Apostle Peter to Rome and stayed by him while he was in prison. Mark is known as Peter’s interpreter, both in speech and in writing. As a fisherman from Galilee, Peter may not have spoken Greek fluently, so Mark interpreted for him.
[size=1.8]In his book, Mark wrote down the observations and memories of Peter, one of the original Apostles. Mark’s book reflects Peter’s interest in spreading the gospel among the Gentiles.
[backcolor=rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.00784314)]Luke
[size=1.8]Luke is an interesting writer because he did not know Jesus Christ personally. He became a follower after the Lord’s death, when Paul taught him the gospel. Luke had been a physician, but he left that profession to travel with Paul. He had the opportunity to talk with many of the Apostles as well as others who were eyewitnesses to special events or moments in the Lord’s life. In the first few verses of his book, Luke says that he is going to write the things that eyewitnesses and other teachers of the gospel had to say about the Savior. Apparently he had the opportunity to talk to many who were present when the Savior taught or performed miracles.
[size=1.8]One of the most amazing stories Luke wrote about was the birth of the Savior. Elder Bruce R. McConkie (1915–85) of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles says that Luke probably got his information about Jesus’s birth from Mary herself. 2
[size=1.8]Who were the other people Luke interviewed about Jesus Christ? The list would have been long. Many of the people who knew the Savior would still have been alive and would have remembered such important times in their lives. Paul mentions that about 500 people saw the Savior after His Resurrection and that most of them were still alive when he was writing to the Corinthians (see 1 Corinthians 15:6).
[backcolor=rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.00784314)]John
[size=1.8]John, or John the Beloved as he was known, served as one of the Apostles. His book was probably written last, as John seems to have already read the other Gospels before he wrote his own book. Often, instead of telling his version of an event or parable the others had already written about, he writes about things the other writers did not include. Also, John’s Gospel includes the testimony of John the Baptist. It seems likely that he had some of the writings of John the Baptist.
[size=1.8]John was writing to members of the Church, who already knew something of the Lord. John emphasizes Jesus’s divine nature as the Son of God.
[size=1.8]In the last five verses of his book, we find out what happened to John. Referring to himself as “the disciple whom Jesus loved,” John tells us that he would not die but would remain on earth until the Second Coming (see John 21:20–23; D&C 7).
[backcolor=rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.00784314)]Four Separate Books
[size=1.8]Right after the Lord’s death and Resurrection and for many years afterward, each of the books written by Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John was a separate item, written on a separate scroll and copied over and over. The individual books weren’t put together into the New Testament until several hundred years after they were written. This explains John’s warning in Revelation 22:18: “If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book.” Some people have interpreted this to mean that no other scriptures could be revealed after the book of Revelation, which in modern times is the last book of the Bible. But John was most likely warning people not to add anything to his writing only in the book of Revelation.
[size=1.8]Eventually the four Gospels were joined with other valuable writings such as the letters that Paul and others wrote. Other original Apostles also wrote things that were copied repeatedly. Remnants of these writings survive, but it is difficult to determine which are authentic. When the New Testament was gathered into a single book, these writings were not included.
[backcolor=rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.00784314)]The Rest of the New Testament
[size=1.8]After the four Gospels, the book of Acts records the events following the Ascension of the Savior. Most scholars agree that Luke wrote the Acts of the Apostles. Nearly all the rest of the books in the New Testament are letters, or epistles. Paul wrote most of these, but also included are letters written by James, Peter, John, and Jude. The book of Revelation, written by John, concludes the collection we now call the New Testament.
[backcolor=rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.00784314)]The Gospels in Harmony
[size=1.8]A wonderful help to use when studying the books of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John is found in the Bible Dictionary, after “Gospels.” The Harmony of the Gospels is a chart that tells where in each book a teaching or an incident in the life of Jesus Christ is told. You get a more in-depth understanding of events or parables when you read about them everywhere they are written. Try looking up the baptism of Jesus. You will see that it is mentioned in all four Gospels. But Jesus’s appearance to Thomas, for instance, is found only in John.
[size=1.8]John has the most unique material in his book. About 90 percent of the information in the book of John is not in the other three Gospels. Mark’s book has the least unique material: only 7 percent.
[backcolor=rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.00784314)]
[size=1.8][illustrations] Illustrated by Paul Mann
a) What makes sense to you is completely ok. Tapi si Katowjo used a hadith to argue upon but reject other hadiths when answer has been provided. This is what we call inconsistency ..... its a failed argument. Either you take everything or reject it , no halfs about it.
b) Nabi Muhammad(saw) did not overstep his mandate. It could be instruction from Allah. Quran10:15 is already attestation that Prophet Muhammad(saw) cannot change according to his liking.
To answer on your point of what happened to the 'ayat dimakan kambing'. Kalo dah tak ada dlm Quran , no use amalkan ayat tersebut. Common sense tells us that over time , it would be forgotten as it is not in the Quran. We have ~ 1400 years in between which is equivalent to ~ 30 generations. Logically kita akan sedar .... it would be forgotten.
Soalan saya : apa yg nak tau sangat ttg ayat tersebut? Nabi Muhammad(saw) sendiri dah tak mau ia ditulis menjadi sebahagian dari Quran.
katowjo replied at 14-3-2017 01:38 AM
-ni dipangil konar keling...hadith kata makan surah sebab tu surah perihal rejam takde dalam quran
-memang quran dikata complete tiada cacat cela dijaga tuhan sendir-tiada bab rejam
-tetiba mullah kata suruh rejam sebab ada mamat mana karang satu hadis 200tahun later
-akibat kantoi bila ada orang boleh guna akal maka dicipta alasan
-"adakah kambeng boleh makan INGATAN para hafazan"
-kononya "RAMAI para hafazan dah hafal surah yang hilang itu"
-maka..nak prove kan hujah puak takleh guna "AKAL" ni..baik dibagi je surah tu seperti didakwa.
-so far...duk pusing saja macam loyar buruk no class
Ha ha .... aku dah mula kesian kat ko ..... you lack common sense
Ni aku bagi ayat pendek2 supaya ko boleh paham
- isu kambing makan ayat rejm tu tak ada significance pasal
(a) kambing tak boleh makan ingatan para hafazan , tapi pada ko , kambing tersebut boleh makan ingatan para hafanzan ... ko tak ada otak lah
(b) bukan hanya Aishah(ra) saja yg ada penulisan ayat tersebut pasal Quran berkembang secara mutawatir - senang macam ni pon ko tak tau
- ayat tersebut ditegah penulisan nya oleh Nabi Muhammad(saw) bermakna ia tak termasuk dlm Quran (bukti & rujukkan dari hadith & juga Quran dlm bab 'naskh')
So simple tapi you lack common sense.
Ha ha ... skg argument ko adalah mullah cakap 200 years later pasal nak cover line ttg rejm. Ok , that is your speculation
- mana bukti & rujukkan ko .... in your wet dreams?
Podah lah tambi .... ko modal air liur basi aje
prrfthhh..tahap ni je hujah...baik terus kata nabi sendiri karang..ayat ni sendiri boleh membuatkan ramai query kesahihan quran adalah wahyu dari satu tuhan or satu karangan manusia..
-tuhan dia dah pesan..nabi tu hanya manusia dan PESURUHNYA..tuhan suruh dia buat.dia kena buat/sampaikan
-bukan tuhan suruh..dia jadi tukang nilai dan luluskan...sapa boss ni wei?
apapun...memang aku malah layan pun hujah konon hebat budak boyfriend lobainita gosh ni..
hujah kantoi pun nagku betul pas tu repeat tanya merepek repek macam budak2 lapar perhatian
pusing sana sini akhirkata
MANA SURAH REJAM YANG DIHAFAL RAMAI TU?BAK TEPEK SINI
Ha ha .... macamana Nabi Muhammad(saw) nak karang Quran? Baginda buta huruf
Lagi sekali ... common sense in which you have none. Kalo dah buta huruf , apa yg Allah wahyukan, Nabi Muhammad(saw) sampaikan. Apa yg Allah perintah tak dalam Quran , Nabi Muhammad(saw) sampaikan .... tu lah dia konsep 'naskh' dlm Quran.
Ko dah nak temberang terlampau banyak sampai ko tak sedar ko dah temberang diri ko.
Ha ha ..... lagi sekali ko tak pakai otak atau tak ada otak. Kalo ayat rejm tu dah tak ada dlm Quran , ia tak akan dibaca atau dihafal lagi. Kalo tak dibaca & dihafal bermakna ia tak diajar. 1400 thn is about 30 generations .... tak ada lagi lah dalam ingatan sapa2
Isn't this common sense? Oopps .... my bad .... common sense is not common with you
Terang terang ko ni memang bodoh. Acong tolong akak .. ada lobai cecirit duk kata hang kata ajwa kurma = paraquat dam Kata aku kata sunnah = wajib
Ko tengok video redskin tu post..yahudi tu kataq tuhan jadikan manusia ada otak, tuhan suruh manusia berpikiq tapi ko tak mau guna otak ko untuk berpikiq waras sebaliknya ko So gostan very gostan
a) cebisan ayat yg dikatakan berkenaan rejam telah dimakan kambing -
laa - kan ada hadis yg rekodkan umar pun tahu ayat itu , hafalkan pun, And not only umar but other companions were in the know of the abrogated mansukh surah ( we are told (from the narration of the hadith as mentioned above or through out most of the postings made by us all )
b) there are many other scribers of Al Quran pun so sapa kata tak lengkap atau ' cacat'
ini adalah fahaman musuh islam dan sengaja nak misconstrued/ putar belitkan samarkan konteks : as in nak kata eh ttu tak ada pun surah rejam ...walhal
KEPADA SIAPA TU yg minta sangat ayat REJAM tu ......yer sapa yg kata nak sangat surah rejam , nampak sangat TAK MENDALAMI AL QURAN dan yg Quran pun ada saja ayat TENTANG HUKUMAN rejam , so ni AYAT REJAM yg dia kata tang mana mai sini ( saya maksudkan si katowjo dalam ayat ini ye bukan redskin - sebab aktowjo nak sangat minta tunjuk ayat rejam tu ) :
tengok surah yg ada perkara rejam in 4: 15 :
Sahih International: Those who commit unlawful sexual intercourse of your women - bring against them four [witnesses] from among you. And if they testify, confine the guilty women to houses until death takes them or Allah ordains for them [another] way.
Pickthall: As for those of your women who are guilty of lewdness, call to witness four of you against them. And if they testify (to the truth of the allegation) then confine them to the houses until death take them or (until) Allah appoint for them a way (through new legislation).
Yusuf Ali: If any of your women are guilty of lewdness, Take the evidence of four (Reliable) witnesses from amongst you against them; and if they testify, confine them to houses until death do claim them, or Allah ordain for them some (other) way.
Shakir: And as for those who are guilty of an indecency from among your women, call to witnesses against them four (witnesses) from among you; then if they bear witness confine them to the houses until death takes them away or Allah opens some way for them.
Muhammad Sarwar: Those of your women who commit fornication, let four (Muslim) witness testify to their act. If there is sufficient testimony, confine them to their homes until they die, or until God provides a way for their freedom.
Mohsin Khan: And those of your women who commit illegal sexual intercourse, take the evidence of four witnesses from amongst you against them; and if they testify, confine them (i.e. women) to houses until death comes to them or Allah ordains for them some (other) way.
Arberry: Such of your women as commit indecency, call four of you to witness against them; and if they witness, then detain them in their houses until death takes them or God appoints for them a way.
and tengok Muhsin Khan translation of Al Quran - surah 4: 15 di atas di ABROGATED by the verse in An Nur 24: 2 di bawah
sila SEMAK !!!
Sahih International: The [unmarried] woman or [unmarried] man found guilty of sexual intercourse - lash each one of them with a hundred lashes, and do not be taken by pity for them in the religion of Allah , if you should believe in Allah and the Last Day. And let a group of the believers witness their punishment.
Pickthall: The adulterer and the adulteress, scourge ye each one of them (with) a hundred stripes. And let not pity for the twain withhold you from obedience to Allah, if ye believe in Allah and the Last Day. And let a party of believers witness their punishment.
Yusuf Ali: The woman and the man guilty of adultery or fornication,- flog each of them with a hundred stripes: Let not compassion move you in their case, in a matter prescribed by Allah, if ye believe in Allah and the Last Day: and let a party of the Believers witness their punishment.
Shakir: (As for) the fornicatress and the fornicator, flog each of them, (giving) a hundred stripes, and let not pity for them detain you in the matter of obedience to Allah, if you believe in Allah and the last day, and let a party of believers witness their chastisement.
Muhammad Sarwar: Flog the fornicatress and the fornicator with a hundred lashes each. Let there be no reluctance in enforcing the laws of God, if you have faith in God and the Day of Judgment. Let it take place in the presence of a group of believers.
Mohsin Khan: The woman and the man guilty of illegal sexual intercourse, flog each of them with a hundred stripes. Let not pity withhold you in their case, in a punishment prescribed by Allah, if you believe in Allah and the Last Day. And let a party of the believers witness their punishment. (This punishment is for unmarried persons guilty of the above crime but if married persons commit it, the punishment is to stone them to death, according to Allah's Law).
Arberry: The fornicatress and the fornicator -- scourge each one of them a hundred stripes, and in the matter of God's religion let no tenderness for them seize you if you believe in God and the Last Day; and let a party of the believers witness their chastisement.
a) if umar tulis jugak - sebab umar tahu yg sahabat lain pun tahu akan wujudnya surah itu - dan umar tambah ayat tu, and if sahabat lain tulis JUGAK, LAGI TERUK dan amat horror kesannya
sebab u KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS??? anda tahu apa maksudnya kalau dep aengkar arahan rasulullah saw???
sila guna akal ....
SO, APA AKAN JADI JIKA UMAR & SAHABAT TULIS JUGAK ????:
AL QURAN akan dijadikan bukti campur tangan tulisan orang lain dan yg bukan penyampaian wahyu rasulullah saw !!!! TAKKAN KIta tahu orientalis yg dok attack quran akan bawa bukti 1 400 years later kata : eh umar tulis ...ni sahabt tulis ni ..haaa?
FAHAM tak JIKA umar TULIS ayat yg BUKAN diizinkan rasulullah saw - yg messenger of Allah yg maksum and trustworthy yg tak pernah buat jenayah pun - untuk jadi part of Quran ....
maka MAKA.........
kira Quran akan jadi tampered - tambahan tulisan UMAr and sahabatlah ..........
So mana BOLEH tulis IKUT SUKA HATI !!!!
sebab itu Umar pi tanya rasulullah saw akan hal ini sebab depa tahu yakin dan percaya as i yakin tahu faham islam yg percaya yg SEGALA TINDAKAN RASULULLAH SAW adalah bukan suka hati ye
dan adapun kes yg Allah tegur rasukullah in few instances : suarah abasa, surah tahrim ke, surah yg ada pasal fitnah a'isyah RA
BUT kita tahu yg Umar habaq / khabar benda ini dan direkodkan dalam hadis pun ada hikmah
so semua ORANG Islam tahu wujud surah surah itu yg dimansukhkan
dan org islam faham konsep nasakh and mansukh dah faham pun and said no BIG DEAL
sebab kalau ayat tu dah dimansukhkan tetapi hukuman rejam tu dikekalkan ( so apa problemnya dan dah pun diterangkan dalam surah yg i sebut tu di atas ) .
so - bagi org yg nak sangat minta ayat rejam tu dah ada pun ayat tentang REJAm dalam 4: 15 and ABROGATED by verse 24: 2
tentang nak persoalkan credibility dan validity al quran dan rasulllah saw
eh jangan begitu jahil sangatlah , sebab bukan Allah tak tahu wujudnya org seperti yg kita sedia maklum - musih islam, pemvenci islam yg sekarang ni akan buat tohmah, FITNAh , dan samarkan KONTEKS , PUTAR BELIT KONTEKS
SEBAB, buktinya ada dalam sural Al Baqarah ayat 106 ( 2: 106)
Sahih International: We do not abrogate a verse or cause it to be forgotten except that We bring forth [one] better than it or similar to it. Do you not know that Allah is over all things competent?
Pickthall: Nothing of our revelation (even a single verse) do we abrogate or cause be forgotten, but we bring (in place) one better or the like thereof. Knowest thou not that Allah is Able to do all things?
Yusuf Ali: None of Our revelations do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar: Knowest thou not that Allah Hath power over all things?
Shakir: Whatever communications We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, We bring one better than it or like it. Do you not know that Allah has power over all things?
Muhammad Sarwar: For whatever sign We change or eliminate or cause to recede into oblivion, We bring forth a better sign, one that is identical. Do you not know that God has power over all things?
Mohsin Khan: Whatever a Verse (revelation) do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, We bring a better one or similar to it. Know you not that Allah is able to do all things?
Arberry: And for whatever verse We abrogate or cast into oblivion, We bring a better or the like of it; knowest thou not that God is powerful over everything?
We do not ABROGATE a RULING, or CAUSE it TO BE FORGOTTEN , EXCEPT THAT WE SUBSUTITUTE IN ITS PLACE SOMETHING BETTER THAN IT, OR SIMILAR TO IT . ARE YOU UNAWARE THAT ALLAH IS INDEED CAPABLE Of ALL THINGS? ( 2: 106)
so , kempen sikit dah nak tahu sangat pasal surah rejam tak nak sokong RUU 3 55 lagi , ke?
u yg tak konsisten in any hujah dalam board KKK dari soal hadis aisyah sampai apa apa jelah
the onky thing you are able and CAPABLE of only doing is to make fun, lawak dan tak ada apa pun ilmu.
tapi mahu cakap tentang islam.
kawan kawan you pun sama: tak boleh hujah sebab tak ada facts , hanya totally bergantung pada sumber hadis kitaorg bawak, jadikan hadis tu yg dia tolak mentah as his hujah yg dia secara tak langsung buktikan yg dia TERPAKSA guna hadis juga
see? how imprudently inconsistent
for those who keep their path straight
relax je
u tengok semua kitaorg akan cakap benda yg sama
dan kita org akan cakap hal itu jugak dan tak dalih pun
dan yg cantiknya ka,amullah - hikmahnya da hadis tentang surah abrogated ni kita semua org yg terlibat dalam tafsir tahu
dan tahu konsep nasaah dan manskuh dan relax je
bukan macam sesetangah kitab yg hmm...
dan alhamdulillah dengan sefaty net yg Allah tetapkan inilah pentingnya untuk faham Quran dan sunnah dan hadis...
ssee?
sapa yg struggle and terpaksa guna hadis untuk maintain ego?
Post time 14-3-2017 04:41 AM
.. ada lobai cecirit duk kata hang kata ajwa kurma = paraquat dam Kata aku kata sunnah = wajib 
