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[Tempatan] Pertubuhan Gabungan Agama Bukan Islam Pula Minta Visa Zakir Naik Disekat

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Post time 14-3-2017 06:50 PM | Show all posts
changepassword replied at 14-3-2017 06:42 PM
Terang terang ko ni memang bodoh. Acong akak... ada lobai cecirit duk kata hang kata ajwa kurma =  ...

Ha ha .... you got it wrong as usual

Memang tuhan suruh pakai otak

Tapi
- mat slow tak pakai otak , mati2 percaya : ajwa dates = paraquat
- mat sewel (gelaran glamor ko) tak pakai otak , mati2 percaya : sunnah = wajib

LOL apa problem guna Quran yg diwahyukan 1400 yrs ago?

Jelaskan sikit apa problem dia .....

Jangan pulak tetiba cakap pasal
a) king james bible
b)
GOSPELS ADALAH ORANG YANG TIDAK DI KENALI

ha ha

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Post time 14-3-2017 06:51 PM | Show all posts
nampak tak hujah yg backing islam kemas je sebab kita tak tolak al quran, hadis / sunnah

yg nampak kucar kacir ialah

yg tak faham

a) quran dari perkataan level sampai maksud
b) tak faham konsep nasakh dan manskuh
c) tak faham konseo rasul dan sifat wajib rasul dan jaiz bagi rasul
d) memang tak faham apa apa  langsung selama dia hidup atas BELAS KASIHAN RAHMAT NIKAMT ALLAH  - ap aitu Allah pada dia , apa maksudnya menjadi islam

memang sadlah kalau sampai tak faham islam tahap macam ni

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Post time 14-3-2017 06:52 PM | Show all posts
mbhcsf replied at 14-3-2017 06:47 PM
u yg tak konsisten in any hujah dalam board KKK dari soal hadis aisyah sampai apa apa jelah

the ...

Make fun pada badut dan badutnita  tada salahnya.

Benda simple pun tak boleh paham, ajwa date = paraquat mati mati duk kata paraquat
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Post time 14-3-2017 08:54 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
changepassword replied at 14-3-2017 06:52 PM
Make fun pada badut dan badutnita  tada salahnya.

Benda simple pun tak boleh paham, aj ...

Hang diam la, maideen. Dah abis modai la tu,,,, asik dok ulang pasai kurma.  
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Post time 14-3-2017 09:45 PM | Show all posts
FOTHER-MUCKER replied at 14-3-2017 04:11 PM
Video to untuk troll lobai melayu!

Ini siapa mereka?

Oops , ko salah lagi

Pasal apa ko tak bagi link pada copy paste ko?

Columbia University (Todd Berzon)
All four Gospels—the Greek word for gospel is euangelion, which literally means “good news”—in the New Testament, despite their titles, were written anonymously. In the second and third centuries, however, Christians began to associate the authorship of these anonymously written gospels with particular figures in the early Christian movement. While these attributions remain affixed to the canonical gospels down to the present day, their historical veracity is unclear.

conservative NT scholars like Bruce Metzger (The New Testament, pg. 97) have agreed:
In the case of the first Gospel, the apostle Matthew can scarcely be the final author; for why should one who presumably had been an eyewitness of much that he records depend … upon the account given by Mark, who had not been an eyewitness?

Christian scholar Raymond Brown (An Introduction to the New Testament, pp. 159-60) likewise acknowledges:
That the author of the Greek Gospel was John Mark, a (presumably Aramaic-speaking) Jew of Jerusalem who had early become a Christian, is hard to reconcile with the impression that it does not seem to be a translation from Aramaic, that it seems to depend on oral traditions (and perhaps already shaped sources) received in Greek, and that it seems confused about Palestinian geography.

Randel Helms points out in Who Wrote the Gospels? (pg. 2):
So the author of Luke-Acts not only knew about a John Mark of Jerusalem, the personal associate of Peter and Paul, but also possessed a copy of what we call the Gospel of Mark, copying some three hundred of its verses into the Gospel of Luke, and never once thought to link the two–John Mark and the Gospel of Mark–together! The reason is simple: the connecting of the anonymous Gospel of Mark with John Mark of Jerusalem is a second-century guess, on that had not been made in Luke’s time.

New Testament expert Bart Ehrman (Forged, pg. 224) explains that the general anonymity of the Gospels, in part, derives from the anonymous narrative structures of Old Testament texts, which served as their model of inspiration:
In all four Gospels, the story of Jesus is presented as a continuation of the history of the people of God as narrated in the Jewish Bible. The portions of the Old Testament that relate to the history of Israel after the death of Moses are found in the books of Joshua, Judges, 1 and 2 Samuel, and 1 and 2 Kings. All of these books are written anonymously … [T]he message of the Gospels … is portrayed … as continuous with the anonymously written history of Israel as laid out in the Old Testament Scriptures.

Kebanyakan NT scholars mengatakan yg 4 Gospels tu were written by unknowns

Macamana pulak Jesus & pengikut dia berbahasa Aramaic , buku2 tersebut ditulis dlm bahasa Kione Greek

Kesemua buku2 Gospels ditulis ~ 70 - 110 CE , 50 thn (atau 1 generasi) selepas pemergian Jesus (~ 30 - 32CE)Lepas 1 generasi - eyewitness apa lagi?


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Post time 14-3-2017 09:51 PM | Show all posts
Defcon2 replied at 14-3-2017 10:21 AM
Mengapa pula palsu. Nabi Muhammad SAW adalah seorang yang buta huruf. Beliau tidak mampu untuk men ...


salam ..



itulah yg dok maideen pertikaikan .  mengapa segalanya datang dari dada

nabi muhd saw  ??   samada sunnah maupun wahyu ,  mengapa dari nabi muhd  ??


soalnya konon mengapa muhd saw  ??    sedangkan pada dasar sebagai makhluk terpilih

memang nabi saw diangkat utk menjadi contoh kepada manusia diatas bumi .

segala wahyu dariNya tidak pernah dapat ditolak hingga kehari ini sedangkan ..

ya ..  muhd seorang yg buta huruf .  sedangkan ilmu ataupun fakta yg disampaikan

jauh lebih advance dan terbukti tepat di zaman serba sains ini .  itulah muhd .


cuma dalam pemilihan hadis ..  banyak riwayat2 yg berasal dari tanah parsi ..  lebih kurang

iran gitu ,  banyak yg tidak menepati syaraknya dan tidak membawa arti .
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Post time 14-3-2017 10:30 PM | Show all posts

sebab apa maideen pertikaikan? sebab dia tak tahu langsung konsep asas dalam islam , zilch.
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Post time 14-3-2017 10:32 PM | Show all posts
banyaknyer post nak insult islam dalam ni. satu pun tak terkesan.

posting insult tahap longkang camni, mod pun malas nak potong credit.

belajar lagi camna nakbuat posting insult tahap klcc la kafir lahnat weyyyy.

bahahaha



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Post time 14-3-2017 10:41 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
i ingatkan melayu je yg iman senipis kulit bawang
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Post time 14-3-2017 10:45 PM | Show all posts
Edited by mbhcsf at 14-3-2017 10:48 PM

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http://www.muftiwp.gov.my/index. ... am-adalah-al-qur-an
  • Daripada Jabir bin Abdillah RA, bahawa Nabi SAW bersabda:

فَإِنَّ خَيْرَ الْحَدِيثِ كِتَابُ اللهِ، وَخَيْرُ الْهُدَى هُدَى مُحَمَّدٍ، وَشَرُّ الْأُمُورِ مُحْدَثَاتُهَا، وَكُلُّ بِدْعَةٍ ضَلَالَةٌ
Maksudnya: “Sesungguhnya sebaik-baik perkataan adalah kitab Allah, sebaik-sebaik petunjuk adalah petunjuk Nabi Muhammad SAW, seburuk-buruk perkara adalah perkara baru yang direka (tiada asal di dalam agama) dan setiap bid’ah (perkara baru) itu adalah sesat”. [Riwayat Muslim (867)]

Imam al-Nawawi berkata, para ulama’ mengatakan bahawa lafaz atau perkataan hidayah di dalam hadith di atas mempunyai dua makna: [Lihat: al-Minhaj Syarah Sahih Muslim, 153/6]

Pertama: Petanda atau petunjuk yang disandarkan kepada para rasul, al-Qur’an dan juga hamba. Sebagaimana firman Allah:  

وَإِنَّكَ لَتَهْدِي إِلَىٰ صِرَاطٍ مُّسْتَقِيمٍ
Maksudnya: “Dan sesungguhnya engkau (wahai Muhammad) adalah pemberi petunjuk dengan al-Qur’an ke jalan yang lurus”. [al-Syura:52]

إِنَّ هَـٰذَا الْقُرْآنَ يَهْدِي لِلَّتِي هِيَ أَقْوَمُ وَيُبَشِّرُ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ
Maksudnya: “Sesungguhnya al-Qur’an ini memberi petunjuk ke jalan yang amat betul (agama Islam) serta memberikan berita gembira buat orang-orang yang beriman”. [al-Isra’:9]


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Post time 14-3-2017 10:51 PM | Show all posts
Edited by FOTHER-MUCKER at 14-3-2017 03:03 PM
sam1528 replied at 14-3-2017 01:45 PM
Oops , ko salah lagi

Pasal apa ko tak bagi link pada copy paste ko?


It appears that the authorship yang you copy paste tu not supportive of Christianity tapi lebih kepada attack on christianity. So sila faham ye.

Link siapa mereka dan ini yang Christian percaya dan juga jika you Tanya orang Christian mereka akan bagi jawapan yang sama sebab itu adalah agama kepercayaan mereka. https://www.lds.org/new-era/2007 ... e-and-john?lang=eng

Jika you Tanya orang Christian tentang siapa Muhammad's mereka juga akan memberi jawapan yang berlainan dari apa yang you percaya.

Sedangkan orang Islam sendiri pun ada yang tidak percaya dengan siapa itu nabi Muhammad.
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Post time 14-3-2017 10:58 PM | Show all posts
katowjo replied at 13-3-2017 04:53 AM
nanti dia claim kau copy paste dia= kau akui hadis dia semua betul jugak...
dah macam desperate ...

Lol! Lobainita mmg camtu klu dah desperate sgt tiba2 dia bagitau puak2 dia nak berdebat dgn aku lagi dua tiga org kahkahkahhhh lawak gila bangsattttt tu perlu sebutttt mcm tu sbb dia takde keyakinan diri utk handle sorg2
Kelakarrrr gilerrrr surah rejam yg tohan elohim turunkan tiba2 mohd tak approved kohkohkohhhh tak ke lawann tokeyyyy tu
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Post time 14-3-2017 10:59 PM | Show all posts
Ntah2 skrg ni elohim duk bakarrr mohd kat neraka jahannammm sbb tak approved surah rejamm lol

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Post time 14-3-2017 11:01 PM | Show all posts
Mcm2 pelik2 cita berserabutttt mcm siallllll
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Post time 14-3-2017 11:02 PM | Show all posts
Edited by mbhcsf at 15-3-2017 01:11 AM
OrenTheReturn replied at 14-3-2017 10:59 PM
Ntah2 skrg ni elohim duk bakarrr mohd kat neraka jahannammm sbb tak approved surah rejamm lol

mod tolong ambil tindakan


- it is okay - do not be afraid of this person , dia banyak buat kesalahan mencerca Rasulullah saw.

i think semua org sokong kalau u banhammer dia.

kalau KRAR KRUK boleh dibanhammer MENGAPA TIDAK DIA?

i am asking? seriously?

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Post time 14-3-2017 11:04 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
mbhcsf replied at 14-3-2017 10:45 PM
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Knp quran klu ditgk isinyer menampakkan penulisnyer tak tau apa2 ttg dunia selain drpd middle east?
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Post time 14-3-2017 11:05 PM | Show all posts
Satu lg hujah lobai, elohim dah turunkan surah rejam lps tu baru tersedarrrrr dia buat silap psl surah tu lps tu cepat2 gerakkan pikiran mohd utk tolak surah tu masok dlm qoran kohkohkohhhhhh what a farkinnnnn jokke
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abangbikerz replied at 14-3-2017 11:04 PM
Knp quran klu ditgk isinyer menampakkan penulisnyer tak tau apa2 ttg dunia selain drpd middle east ...

and you? setakat ibnu ishaq  yg bawa khabar yg ntah ke tidak dia bebetul tentukan sahih ke tak.
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Post time 14-3-2017 11:10 PM | Show all posts
mbhcsf replied at 14-3-2017 11:02 PM
mod tolong ambil tindakan

I will do my besttttt to help u in any wayyyyy I cannn

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Rosollollah mohd terroristt

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Post time 14-3-2017 11:11 PM | Show all posts
Fuckk mohamad

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