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kat sini bukan board politik....so hrap jgn masukkan hal2 politik yg x de kait-mengait ngan board nie...n cari fakta yg relevent ngan isu yg nak dibincangkan supaya sedap skit forumer2 lain mmbaca, jd x delah setiap kali ko wat post, fakta entah kemana2 yg x de kaitan ngan isu yg nak dibincangkan, yg lain kene betulkan fakta ko tu...
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Sebut pasal AEW (AWACS sebenarnya khusus untuk Boeing E-3 Sentry sahaja) ni rasa aku mod tin dah bagi pandangan dia pasal benda tu...point dia buat masa ni tak perlu sebab
1. Setakat ni TUDM cuma ada 18 Su-30, 8 Hornet, 10? Hawk, 14 Flucrum...tak berbaloi nak beli AEW bagi kawal aset ciput camni
2. Dan sebut pasal aset ciput, AEW ialah high value target...sape nak defend?
Dan pasal 'kapal terbang lagi efektif'....cuba tengok metod pengangkutan perdagangan dunia masih jugak pakai kapal, keretapi...pasal kapalterbang takleh bawak load EFFICIENTLY. Kalau Proton ship kereta ke luar negara, masih pakai car carrier...bukan 747F...tu gula, tepung yang orang Mesia bertan-tan pelahap dalam sehari...masih dibawa dalam keretapi jugak..... |
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"indonesia saja dah ade hampir 300 jet pejuang termasuk sukhoi-30 MKI"
yelah,mcm aku ca ...
shahtar Post at 20-6-2010 22:09 
TNI-AU memang ada 300 pesawat...tapi tu semua total inventory la. Combat aircraft ada 62..... |
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Reply shahtar
tiket flight lagi murah dari tiket ketapi ke? bagos beno teknik nk tolong rakyat ...
FMKiller Post at 21-6-2010 09:31 
bro,saya cakap pasal CARGO transport,not people carrier...talking about airport cost,rm9b tuh harga untuk KLIA...kenapa saya cakap pasal awacs,sebab negara2 seberang kite(case of conflicts) pakai air armament,mmg patut kite sediakan at least,say 2 awacs...our neighbour lg banyak air fleet drpd warships...takkan nak intercepts jet dengan submarines? silap2 kena bom trus subs tuh...
kalau cite psal speed,aku tak rase subs boleh pergi lebih dari 100+ knot....kalau awacs,say E-3 sentry cruising speed 400knot...detect hostile aircraft,bg SU-30/F18 uruskan....shore kite ni besar...kapal selam dah la slow,kite bukan ade 20 subs...lainlah jets,laju dan kite ade banyak...beli satu subs=dapat beberapa jets...quantity meets practicality.... |
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Bila masa plak depa ada Su30MKI?? Hahahaha...
escortburuk Post at 20-6-2010 20:27
Su-30KISukhoi proposal for upgrading Russian AF single seat Su-27S. Also proposed export version for Indonesia, 24 was ordered but subsequently cancelled due to the 1997 Asian Financial Crisis,[4] the only single seat in Su-30 family.
sorry its not su30 MKI,but only KI...indonesia has 2 su30 MK and 3 su30 MK2 to date... |
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Bro, you're muddling sea warfare and aerial warfare! |
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TNI-AU memang ada 300 pesawat...tapi tu semua total inventory la. Combat aircraft ada 62.....
alphawolf Post at 21-6-2010 13:54
Opps sori,yes 300 is total inventori,only 62 the jets...sorry sebab salah fakta...my bad... |
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shahtar,
aku pun bukan tau sgt psl military ni. based on reading & cerita2 dr kawan2 yg jd askar/pilot/navy & bapak2 sedara aku yg RAMD & JMF. tapi aku x la seBANGANG ko.
ADA KE NAK SURUH KAPAL SELAM INTERCEPT FIGHTER JETS? HAHAHAHA!
ko memang kelako la.. |
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Hahahahaahaa ............ Mana mungkinlah TNI boleh lebih kuat dari ATM .... Bahkan, ada yang ...
jf_pratama Post at 21-6-2010 15:01
Ya ke? aku kurang pasti..sebab ape? bleh share? |
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takkan nak intercepts jet dengan submarines? silap2 kena bom trus subs tuh...
Despite their prowess in air combat and strike, the F-15 and F-16 are TOTALLY useless against submarines
And yes, subs can't intercept the jets but they can bloody well intercept cargo ships, troop transports, LHDs, LHAs, LSTs and all other Ls |
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shahtar,
aku pun bukan tau sgt psl military ni. based on reading & cerita2 dr kawan2 yg jd askar/ ...
raxief Post at 21-6-2010 14:54
takkan nak intercepts jet dengan submarines?
aku letak tanda soal kat hujung...thats a question... |
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Ya ke? aku kurang pasti..sebab ape? bleh share?
shahtar Post at 21-6-2010 15:07
Don't feed the troll!! |
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Don't feed the troll!!
alphawolf Post at 21-6-2010 15:09
understood...dont intend to... |
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Ya ke? aku kurang pasti..sebab ape? bleh share?
shahtar Post at 21-6-2010 14:07 
Sebab selama ini Indonesia sangat-sangat takut dan khawatir atas ancaman militer dan non-militer dari pihak Mesia ...... not vice versa ...
Jika Indonesia kuat .... mana mungkin Indonesia boleh takut dan cemas terhadap negara anda? |
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Sebab selama ini Indonesia sangat-sangat takut dan khawatir atas ancaman militer dan non-militer ...
jf_pratama Post at 21-6-2010 15:41
aku ade dengar cite diaorg takut pada komando malaysia... |
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penelitian ttg awa aew mmg dah lama dibuat, masalahnya skrg bnyk teknologi cuba disekat, jd gov masih fikir yg mana lebih bagus, kita bkn singapore, mereka punya aset , tak bnyk yg disekat mcm kita, skrg keperluan lebih kpd tambah pesawat pejuang, sbb tak guna beli a400, aew, dan tubuhkan unit airborne klu ruang udara ditakluk musuh. |
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understood...dont intend to...
shahtar Post at 21-6-2010 15:11
Kan aku dah cakap........ |
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penelitian ttg awa aew mmg dah lama dibuat, masalahnya skrg bnyk teknologi cuba disekat, jd gov masi ...
hyazinth79 Post at 21-6-2010 20:37
Singapore
In February 2003, Singapore joined the JSF program's System Design and Development (SDD) Phase, as a Security Co-operation Participant (SCP).Singapore could be buying up to 100 F-35s.
untung singapore nih join JSF program,pastu jadik allies US...lepas nih some fighter singapore dapat replacement... |
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Post time 21-6-2010 01:21 PM
