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[MERGED]Forum Majlis Peguam 'Memeluk Islam: Update-Kecoh: Salah K'jaan-Dr M
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Tggu lah karpal sing bentak depa..mesti terkedu pis.. |
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Originally posted by DTECCONAN at 7-8-2008 04:55 PM 
pasal kuil pon dah kecoh 
Kesian aku tgok engkau.Perkara senang mcm ni pon kau susah nak paham.
Roboh kuil dan forum yg dianjurkan olh Majlis Peguam Malaysia adalah dua perkara berbeza.
Ader ke Majlis Peguam Malaysia suruh robohkan masjid?
Jadi aku lihat tidak ada sebab utk umat2 isele utk bising2 pasal forum ini. |
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Originally posted by samyvellu at 7-8-2008 05:11 PM
Kesian aku tgok engkau.Perkara senang mcm ni pon kau susah nak paham.
Roboh kuil dan forum yg dianjurkan olh Majlis Peguam Malaysia adalah dua perkara berbeza.
Ader ke Majlis Peguam Malaysi ...
apa pula takder beza
roboh kuil konon2nya kacau hak org hindu, ni yg nak bincang pasal murtad ni nak bincang pasai hak org Islam
apa kejadahnya kapir nak masuk campur hal org Islam pula?
agama Hindu elok sangat ker sampai nak masuk campur hal agama lain? |
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jaga ler kuil tu elok2 drpd sibuk nak jaga hal Islam |
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Balas #4 samyvellu\ catat
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aku pun pelik juga kenapa orang kafir rasa fobia dengan perkataan islam dan jihad |
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Balas #4 samyvellu\ catat
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aku pun pelik juga kenapa orang kafir rasa fobia dengan perkataan islam dan jihad |
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Reply #24 jerai's post
jangan lupa, hukum hudud  |
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panas betul nampaknya forum ni ya...
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ai..bila mai tang tred ni tak laku???? |
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esok forum akan diteruskan..... |
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dari bermula artikel 121 (1A)...perbincngan akan berlanjutan ke artikel 3..artikel 60....sume akan diheret....
komiti majority bar council adalah bangsa dan penganut agama lain...dan mereka mencadangkan forum sebegini?tertindaskah mereka? |
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kalo turut disertai oleh para mufti...sy setuju..
bukan apa....takot nanti peguam yg bijak pandai ni..
meggunakan kelebihan mereka tuk mgatasi apa yg tertakluk dlm syariat islam..
depa pk dok guna logik akal...
tp dlm islam...xsume pkara mampu dicapai oleh akal...
apatah lg panel nyer org bukan islam....
apakah para lawyer ini semua sedang mcari langkah2 mudah tuk org islam..
murtad dgn senang
kalo ikut islam dah lama wajid kena pancung...
tp ikut logik akal undang2...bolehkah ianya dilaksanakan?
pk2 kan lah... |
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mengapa susah sgt kita nak mengakui yg di sana terdapat konflik perundangan dlm hal berkaitan pentadbiran agama Islam dan agama2 lain?
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Originally posted by 033589 at 8-8-2008 08:14 PM 
esok forum akan diteruskan.....
saya setuju forum ni diteruskan... |
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tapi kalau anda nak jadi sebagian drp 10,000 orang yg nak berkumpul depan pejabat majlis peguam jika forum ni diteruskan dipersilakanlah... |
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Press Statement: Meaningful debate needed to find just and amicable solutions
Contributed by Ragunath Kesavan
Friday, 08 August 2008 03:07pm
The Bar Council抯 forum scheduled for tomorrow will proceed. The concerns of some quarters including a number of cabinet ministers such as the Deputy Prime Minister, Dato Seri Najib Razak, Dato Hamid Albar and Dato Zahid Hamidi, various NGOs and PAS are noted.
We reiterate that our concern is to address the issues of conflicts of laws facing families caught between the separate jurisdictions of civil and Syariah laws.
The Bar Council is not questioning the provisions of Article 121(1A), which confer Syariah jurisdiction over Muslims on the Syariah Courts. The coexistence of two separate legal jurisdictions is not a new or uncommon phenomenon and there are naturally issues of conflicts of laws arising from the different jurisdictions.
We recognise and respect Article 121(1A); however, there is a strong viewpoint that it is unjust to compel anyone to be subjected to laws and courts that are based on a religion that they do not profess, and this viewpoint must be addressed.
Our concern centres on the manner of dealing with the current conflicts. There must be a concerted effort by the Government to address these issues constructively and not pay mere lip service to the concerns of many.
Although the Bar Council is heartened by the Prime Minister抯 recently-reported statements calling for more interfaith dialogues to be held in order to promote and ensure religious harmony among Malaysians of diverse beliefs and we welcome his assurance that there is space for such dialogues, we urge that more be done by way of constructive dialogue and meaningful debate with all the relevant stakeholders to arrive at a just and amicable solution.
However, the Bar Council is troubled by the continuing calls from certain quarters that its forum tomorrow be cancelled. These statements that claim the forum will create misunderstanding, anger and tension, are in stark contrast with the PM抯 assurances.
The Bar Council reiterates that the forum will not dispute Article 121(1A), nor question Islam or its status as enshrined in Article 3 of the Federal Constitution. The forum is not about conversion per se, as the Bar Council endorses the absolute right of individuals to embrace Islam. Instead, the forum will address the ancillary issues that arise from such situations and will emphasise the need for laws, and a judicial system, that protects everyone equally.
The way forward to resolving any dispute or issue is to firstly promote greater understanding of the views of all the parties involved. We accept and understand that matters relating to faith and race are always sensitive and emotive. However, regardless of the sensitivity, we must strive to move forward to achieve a just, fair and amicable solution to the problems faced by so many individuals.
The stifling of debates, talks and discussions would be counter-productive and would only fuel hate, fear and insecurity within the affected communities.
The Bar Council agrees with the Prime Minister that there is a high degree of respect and tolerance in Malaysia, and Malaysians are able to 揹iscuss various issues, especially on religion, without having the fear of repercussions from any other party |
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I dun see anything wrong with this forum which is organized by the Bar Council and it should go on as planned
[ Last edited by samyvellu at 8-8-2008 09:18 PM ] |
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Post time 7-8-2008 05:09 PM
