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Legenda Fallen Angels, The Watchers & Nephilim... UPDATE: GIANTS' PICS!
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dlm aku nye blog ade psl nephilim. annunnaki semua ni....dulu saja aku buat translation sbb nak tgk sejauh mana kepercayaan org yahudi ttg masa silam nenek moyang mereka (mostly unrecorded punya documentation), dan lagi satu, time tu aku tgh kaji ttg apa yg diperkatakan "terdapat pelbagai Adam"...:
http://www.atasbawah.com/2008/01/02/kronologi-masa-dan-kewujudan-makhluk-annunnaki/
amik yg mana yg penting jer, sbg rujukan saja kay...bab nak terus percaya atau tak bukannya isu yg utama melainkan kalo confident.. |
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mac taylor..hang teruskan le pape yg patut...aku suka cara ko approach perbincangan dkt HML ni.. |
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Originally posted by jazy at 24-10-2008 03:00 PM
Kenapa The Watchers diturunkan ke bumi dlm bentuk manusia utk menyeru kpd kebaikan & berkahwin dgn perempuan2 manusia & mendapat zuriat Nephilm sedangkan Nabi Muhammad adalah seorg Manusia!Tidakk ...
Semuanya BOLEH dipersoalkan kerana Lagenda ini tidak ada dlm hadis/quran (kecuali dlm kitab Injil & kitab Nabi Idris).
So, ia terbuka kpd 'open discussion'. Ia sekadar sebuah cerita yg tidak ada 'bukti kukuh', kecuali ko confident kpd apa yg ditulis dlm Injil & kitab Nabi Idris tu.
Kenapa The Watchers diturunkan ke bumi dlm bentuk manusia?
Mcm yg aku kata kat atas, itu kan HANYA LEGENDA? Legenda bermaksud, sesuatu yg BOLEH JADI BENAR, BOLEH JADI PALSU. Jadi belum tentu The Watchers diturunkan ke bumi dlm bentuk manusia. Kita tak pasti pun samada The Watchers tu benar2 wujud atau tidak. Mungkin hanya cerita 'fairytales?' Who knows?
Sebab itu kita buka thread ini supaya kita dpt berbicang mengenainya, & semoga dpt mengetahui yg mana benar & yg mana palsu.
Wallahua'lam... :victory: |
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aku teringat dulu samada ustaz atau ustazah aku ada menceritakan bahawa org zaman dahulu besar dan tinggi tak sama dgn saiz manusia skg..
ni dia citer pasal kisah nabi nuh buat kapal utk banjir....jadinya persoalan aku kemungkinan bab besar dan ketinggian ni ada related tak dgn saiz nephilim ini..?
dan lagi betul ke saiz manusia sprt yg di ceritakan oleh ustazku itu..? dan aku tak igt kenapa manusia ni saiz dia makin lama makin kecil...walaupun beliau ada mengatakannya...maklum ni masa aku belajar zaman sekolah rendah lagi... |
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waaah...makin rancak topik ni,siap ada gambo lagi teruskan,teruskan |
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Originally posted by hanna1905 at 25-10-2008 00:11
aku teringat dulu samada ustaz atau ustazah aku ada menceritakan bahawa org zaman dahulu besar dan tinggi tak sama dgn saiz manusia skg..
ni dia citer pasal kisah nabi nuh buat kapal utk banji ...
nak tau saiz org dulu besar mana? rujuk saiz pedang nabi muhammad...
http://ibnulazim.wordpress.com/2008/09/28/swords-of-muhammad-saw/ |
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Originally posted by Acong at 25-10-2008 12:46 PM
nak tau saiz org dulu besar mana? rujuk saiz pedang nabi muhammad...
http://ibnulazim.wordpress.com/2008/09/28/swords-of-muhammad-saw/
Pedang jer pun dah 100 lebih cm...
Berapa panjang daaa... agak2 ada sama ke dgn panjang pedang Samurai...
Aku ada baca kat mana tah aku pun dah luper, zaman dulu (time zaman Nabi Musa kot), org2nya besar2 aka tinggi2..
Air laut tu takat buku lali jer...
Wallahua'lam... |
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Balas #76 Acong\ catat
Betul tu. Dah tulis pasal ni pagi tadi. Pastu gi kenduri sat.
So, secara umumnya yg mempercayai giant skeleton ni nak kata apa? Mereka adalah the watchers? Nephilm?
Pd akak pulak, mengikut sumber "org bawah", giant skeleton ini wujud. Tapi mungkin bukan spt dlm gambar tu. Nak kata gambar tu fake, mungkin tp taklah bermakna giant skeleton ni tak wujud.
Pd akak, akak percaya bhw manusia bermula dr Nabi Adam as. Dan mereka ini bersaiz agak besar. Kalau mengikut artikel, 6 ke 7 kaki. Compared to gambar yg Nazrul letak tu pun dah membuktikan perkara ni tak mustahil. TAPI, giant skeleton tu bukanlah the wathcers atau nephilm spt yg dipercayai olej non muslim. Sebaliknya mereka adalah manusia.
Berdasarkan kajian dan penemuan sejarah Islam, kita dapati bekas tapak kaki atau kubur2 lama para anbia atau sahabat juga besar. Di Syria, para saintis menjumpai byk kubur lama yg menjangkau 7 kaki. Tapi mereka tak dpt nak kaji secara detail pasal dikawal oleh org Islam. Mereka nak korek kubur2 tu tp tak boleh lah. Refer sini:
http://english.pravda.ru/science/19/94/377/16560_giants.html
Ni contoh kubur yg besar. Dikatakan kubur Habil, anak Nabi Adam as. Ada di Syria
Yg ni kubur Nabi Salleh as
Kubur Nabi Harun as:
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Errk... sapekah org bawah ittew... |
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Aside from mythology and folklore (see Tall tales), mysterious remains of giants have been found in America. Giants are usually classified as human-like remains that are 7'-5" or more in height. The book Forbidden Land by Robert Lyman (1971) recounts the following finds:
* A decayed human skeleton claimed by eyewitnesses to measure around 3.28 metres (10 feet 9 inches tall), was unearthed by labourers while ploughing a vineyard in November 1856 in East Wheeling, now in West Virginia.
* A human skeleton measuring 3.6 metres (12 feet) tall was unearthed at Lompock Rancho, California, in 1833 by soldiers digging in a pit for a powder magazine. The specimen had a double row of teeth and was surrounded by numerous stone axes, carved shells and porphyry blocks with abstruse symbols associated with it.
* Several mummified remains of red haired humans ranging from 2-2.5 metres (6.5 feet to over 8 feet) tall were dug up at Lovelock Cave, (70 miles) north-east of Reno, Nevada, by a guano mining operation. These bones substantiated legends by the local Paiute Indians regarding giants which they called Si-Te-Cahs. For some reason scientists did not seem to want to investigate these finds further so many of the bones were lost. Fortunately one of the giant Lovelock skulls is still preserved today. It measures almost 30cm (1 foot) tall and resides along with other various Lovelock artefacts in the Humboldt Museum in Winnemucca, Nevada. Some of these artifacts can also be found in the Nevada State Historical Society's museum at Reno.
* A 9' 11" skeleton was unearthed in 1928 by a farmer digging a pit to bury trash in Tensas Parish, Louisiana near Waterproof. In 1931 a 10' 2" skeleton was unearthed by a boy burying his dog in 1933 in Nearby Madison Parish.
Aside from in Forbidden Land, we can find other unverified examples or legends about the remains of giants:
* A 9' 8" skeleton was excavated from a mound near Brewersville, Indiana (Indianapolis News, Nov 10, 1975).
* In Clearwater Minnesota, the skeletons of seven giants were found in mounds. These had receding foreheads and complete double dentition (Childress 1992, p. 468).
* A mound near Toledo, Ohio, held 20 skeletons, seated and facing east with jaws and teeth "twice as large as those of present day people," and beside each was a large bowl with "curiously wrought hieroglyphic figures." (Chicago Record, Oct. 24, 1895; cited by Ron G. Dobbins, NEARA Journal, v13, fall 1978).
* In the city of Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada there is a span of mountains five miles long that is in the shape of a man wearing a headdress lying down on his back. The span is called "The Sleeping Giant" from local Ojibway legend that identifies the giant as Nanabijou, the spirit of the Deep Sea Water, who was turned to stone when the secret location of a rich silver mine, now known as Silver Islet, was disclosed to white men.[citation needed]
* Patagons of Patagonia in South America, are giants claimed to have been seen by Ferdinand Magellan and his crew. |
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Originally posted by mac_taylor at 25-10-2008 01:13 PM
Aku ada baca kat mana tah aku pun dah luper, zaman dulu (time zaman Nabi Musa kot), org2nya besar2 aka tinggi2..
Air laut tu takat buku lali jer...
Wallahua'lam...
Err.. air laut yang takat buku lali tu kat tepi pantai.... kalau ditengah, akan tenggelam (firaun dan tenteranya) |
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