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Legenda Fallen Angels, The Watchers & Nephilim... UPDATE: GIANTS' PICS!

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Post time 24-10-2008 04:49 PM | Show all posts
dlm aku nye blog ade psl nephilim. annunnaki semua ni....dulu saja aku buat translation sbb nak tgk sejauh mana kepercayaan org yahudi ttg masa silam nenek moyang mereka (mostly unrecorded punya documentation), dan lagi satu, time tu aku tgh kaji ttg apa yg diperkatakan "terdapat pelbagai Adam"...:

http://www.atasbawah.com/2008/01/02/kronologi-masa-dan-kewujudan-makhluk-annunnaki/

amik yg mana yg penting jer, sbg rujukan saja kay...bab nak terus percaya atau tak bukannya isu yg utama melainkan kalo confident..
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Post time 24-10-2008 04:52 PM | Show all posts
mac taylor..hang teruskan le pape yg patut...aku suka cara ko approach perbincangan dkt HML ni..
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 Author| Post time 24-10-2008 05:58 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Nazrulism at 24-10-2008 01:06 PM
Ini keturunan Giant ker ?

http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/images/records/rhp/portrait/80758.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5c/Robert_Wadlow.jpg/225px-Robert_Wadlow.jpg



Paiseh...  aku baru jek nak kopipes..
Ko dah tepek dulu..     

Agak2 mungkin keturunan Nephilim kot...  
Tapi ada di antaranya yg saintis kata mengidap 'penyakit' yg menyebabkan mereka menjadi 'lbh tinggi' berbanding manusia lain...  so antara Nephilim, penyakit, DNA tersendiri?
Masih meneka dlm kesamaran...  :eek:

Wallahua'lam...
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 Author| Post time 24-10-2008 07:06 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by jazy at 24-10-2008 03:00 PM
Kenapa The Watchers diturunkan ke bumi dlm bentuk manusia utk menyeru kpd kebaikan & berkahwin dgn perempuan2 manusia & mendapat zuriat Nephilm sedangkan Nabi Muhammad adalah seorg Manusia!Tidakk ...



Semuanya BOLEH dipersoalkan kerana Lagenda ini tidak ada dlm hadis/quran (kecuali dlm kitab Injil & kitab Nabi Idris).
So, ia terbuka kpd 'open discussion'. Ia sekadar sebuah cerita yg tidak ada 'bukti kukuh', kecuali ko confident kpd apa yg ditulis dlm Injil & kitab Nabi Idris tu.

Kenapa The Watchers diturunkan ke bumi dlm bentuk manusia?

Mcm yg aku kata kat atas, itu kan HANYA LEGENDA? Legenda bermaksud, sesuatu yg BOLEH JADI BENAR, BOLEH JADI PALSU. Jadi belum tentu The Watchers diturunkan ke bumi dlm bentuk manusia. Kita tak pasti pun samada The Watchers tu benar2 wujud atau tidak. Mungkin hanya cerita 'fairytales?' Who knows?

Sebab itu kita buka thread ini supaya kita dpt berbicang mengenainya, & semoga dpt mengetahui yg mana benar & yg mana palsu.

Wallahua'lam...  :victory:
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 Author| Post time 24-10-2008 07:09 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by cz at 24-10-2008 04:52 PM
mac taylor..hang teruskan le pape yg patut...aku suka cara ko approach perbincangan dkt HML ni..



Insya Allah...   

Ko pun sudi2kanlah contribute apa yg patut...   
Jgn jadik mcm si Nazrul tu..
Nak banje aku teh tarik pun kudukut...   
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Post time 24-10-2008 10:33 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by mac_taylor at 24-10-2008 07:09 PM



Insya Allah...   

Ko pun sudi2kanlah contribute apa yg patut...   
Jgn jadik mcm si Nazrul tu..
Nak banje aku teh tarik pun kudukut...   


Ceh.. aku bukan kudukut!
Tapi aku tengok ko ni 'selera beSAR'
Cuba2 mintak aiz blanje ko....
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 Author| Post time 24-10-2008 10:45 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Nazrulism at 24-10-2008 10:33 PM


Ceh.. aku bukan kudukut!
Tapi aku tengok ko ni 'selera beSAR'
Cuba2 mintak aiz blanje ko....



Nk mintak banje teh tarik pun selera besar ker???
Sampai hati....      
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Post time 25-10-2008 12:11 AM | Show all posts
aku teringat dulu samada ustaz atau ustazah aku ada menceritakan bahawa org zaman dahulu besar dan tinggi tak sama dgn saiz manusia skg..

ni dia citer pasal kisah nabi nuh buat kapal utk banjir....jadinya persoalan aku kemungkinan bab besar dan ketinggian ni ada related tak dgn saiz nephilim ini..?

dan lagi betul ke saiz manusia sprt yg di ceritakan oleh ustazku itu..? dan aku tak igt kenapa manusia ni saiz dia makin lama makin kecil...walaupun beliau ada mengatakannya...maklum ni masa aku belajar zaman sekolah rendah lagi...
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Post time 25-10-2008 01:16 AM | Show all posts
waaah...makin rancak topik ni,siap ada gambo lagi teruskan,teruskan
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 Author| Post time 25-10-2008 02:32 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by nodiman at 25-10-2008 01:16 AM
waaah...makin rancak topik ni,siap ada gambo lagi teruskan,teruskan



Ko ajerlah banje aku minum teh tarik...  
Yg lain kudukut...     
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Post time 25-10-2008 12:37 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by mac_taylor at 24-10-2008 17:58



Paiseh...  aku baru jek nak kopipes..
Ko dah tepek dulu..     

Agak2 mungkin keturunan Nephilim kot...  
Tapi ada di antaranya yg saintis kata mengidap 'penyakit' yg menyebabk ...

refer nie:

Gigantism is abnormally large growth due to an excess of growth hormone during childhood, before the bone growth plates have closed.


http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001174.htm
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Post time 25-10-2008 12:46 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by hanna1905 at 25-10-2008 00:11
aku teringat dulu samada ustaz atau ustazah aku ada menceritakan bahawa org zaman dahulu besar dan tinggi tak sama dgn saiz manusia skg..

ni dia citer pasal kisah nabi nuh buat kapal utk banji ...

nak tau saiz org dulu besar mana? rujuk saiz pedang nabi muhammad...

http://ibnulazim.wordpress.com/2008/09/28/swords-of-muhammad-saw/
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 Author| Post time 25-10-2008 01:13 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Acong at 25-10-2008 12:46 PM

nak tau saiz org dulu besar mana? rujuk saiz pedang nabi muhammad...

http://ibnulazim.wordpress.com/2008/09/28/swords-of-muhammad-saw/



Pedang jer pun dah 100 lebih cm...  
Berapa panjang daaa... agak2 ada sama ke dgn panjang pedang Samurai...   

Aku ada baca kat mana tah aku pun dah luper, zaman dulu (time zaman Nabi Musa kot), org2nya besar2 aka tinggi2..
Air laut tu takat buku lali jer...
Wallahua'lam...   
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Post time 25-10-2008 05:29 PM | Show all posts

Balas #76 Acong\ catat

Betul tu. Dah tulis pasal ni pagi tadi. Pastu gi kenduri sat.
So, secara umumnya yg mempercayai giant skeleton ni nak kata apa? Mereka adalah the watchers? Nephilm?

Pd akak pulak, mengikut sumber "org bawah", giant skeleton ini wujud. Tapi mungkin bukan spt dlm gambar tu. Nak kata gambar tu fake, mungkin tp taklah bermakna giant skeleton ni tak wujud.

Pd akak, akak percaya bhw manusia bermula dr Nabi Adam as. Dan mereka ini bersaiz agak besar. Kalau mengikut artikel, 6 ke 7 kaki. Compared to gambar yg Nazrul letak tu pun dah membuktikan perkara ni tak mustahil. TAPI, giant skeleton tu bukanlah the wathcers atau nephilm spt yg dipercayai olej non muslim. Sebaliknya mereka adalah manusia.

Berdasarkan kajian dan penemuan sejarah Islam, kita dapati bekas tapak kaki atau kubur2 lama para anbia atau sahabat juga besar. Di Syria, para saintis menjumpai byk kubur lama yg menjangkau 7 kaki. Tapi mereka tak dpt nak kaji secara detail pasal dikawal oleh org Islam. Mereka nak korek kubur2 tu tp tak boleh lah. Refer sini:
http://english.pravda.ru/science/19/94/377/16560_giants.html

Ni contoh kubur yg besar. Dikatakan kubur Habil, anak Nabi Adam as. Ada di Syria



Yg ni kubur Nabi Salleh as



Kubur Nabi Harun as:
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Post time 25-10-2008 05:34 PM | Show all posts
Wokeh, tengok tapak kaki Nabi Muhammad saw:


Sandal Baginda saw:


Nampak dah semakin mengecil manusia tp still besar jugak kan?

Apa yg me tahu, setelah Islam berkembang di Mekah dan Madinah, ramai jemaah dihantar ke serata dunia. Mula2 sekali ke China. Sebab tu ada kubur sahabat rhu di sana spt Saad Bin Abu Waqas. Shabat2 juga dihantar ke Andalus. Dipercayai juga sahabat2 tlh pun sampai ke benua Amerika sebelum dibangunkan oleh Kristian. Ada satu artikel mengenai beberapa buah kubur (3 rasanya) yg besar dijumpai somewhere di Amerika (sorry, tak ingat kat mana. Berlaku di thn 1943 kot. Lupa lah. Dah cari balik artikel tu tp tak jumpa). Bila digali kubur tu, didapati mayat2 tu facing the Kiblah. Seems that mereka adalah Muslim. Kemungkinan para sahabat yg tlh sampai ke sana utk sebarkan Islam. Ada yg kata, California itu berasal dr perkataan Caliph Dunia (Khalifah dunia). Brazil... dikatakan berasal dr ... hu..huu... ku lupa la pulak. Nama tu bunyi dekat2 Brazil juga. Dan ia berasal dr satu tempat di Andalus di mana tempat org2 Islam.

Wokeh..Suriname pulak maksudnya "Org2 Syria yg tidur". Bahasa Arabnya lebih kurang wah... ku lupa lagi. (bg suspen skit)
Nanti akak tanya kat "org bawah".
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 Author| Post time 25-10-2008 05:47 PM | Show all posts
Errk... sapekah org bawah ittew...   
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 Author| Post time 25-10-2008 05:48 PM | Show all posts
Aside from mythology and folklore (see Tall tales), mysterious remains of giants have been found in America. Giants are usually classified as human-like remains that are 7'-5" or more in height. The book Forbidden Land by Robert Lyman (1971) recounts the following finds:

* A decayed human skeleton claimed by eyewitnesses to measure around 3.28 metres (10 feet 9 inches tall), was unearthed by labourers while ploughing a vineyard in November 1856 in East Wheeling, now in West Virginia.

* A human skeleton measuring 3.6 metres (12 feet) tall was unearthed at Lompock Rancho, California, in 1833 by soldiers digging in a pit for a powder magazine. The specimen had a double row of teeth and was surrounded by numerous stone axes, carved shells and porphyry blocks with abstruse symbols associated with it.

* Several mummified remains of red haired humans ranging from 2-2.5 metres (6.5 feet to over 8 feet) tall were dug up at Lovelock Cave, (70 miles) north-east of Reno, Nevada, by a guano mining operation. These bones substantiated legends by the local Paiute Indians regarding giants which they called Si-Te-Cahs. For some reason scientists did not seem to want to investigate these finds further so many of the bones were lost. Fortunately one of the giant Lovelock skulls is still preserved today. It measures almost 30cm (1 foot) tall and resides along with other various Lovelock artefacts in the Humboldt Museum in Winnemucca, Nevada. Some of these artifacts can also be found in the Nevada State Historical Society's museum at Reno.

* A 9' 11" skeleton was unearthed in 1928 by a farmer digging a pit to bury trash in Tensas Parish, Louisiana near Waterproof. In 1931 a 10' 2" skeleton was unearthed by a boy burying his dog in 1933 in Nearby Madison Parish.


Aside from in Forbidden Land, we can find other unverified examples or legends about the remains of giants:


* A 9' 8" skeleton was excavated from a mound near Brewersville, Indiana (Indianapolis News, Nov 10, 1975).

* In Clearwater Minnesota, the skeletons of seven giants were found in mounds. These had receding foreheads and complete double dentition (Childress 1992, p. 468).

* A mound near Toledo, Ohio, held 20 skeletons, seated and facing east with jaws and teeth "twice as large as those of present day people," and beside each was a large bowl with "curiously wrought hieroglyphic figures." (Chicago Record, Oct. 24, 1895; cited by Ron G. Dobbins, NEARA Journal, v13, fall 1978).

* In the city of Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada there is a span of mountains five miles long that is in the shape of a man wearing a headdress lying down on his back. The span is called "The Sleeping Giant" from local Ojibway legend that identifies the giant as Nanabijou, the spirit of the Deep Sea Water, who was turned to stone when the secret location of a rich silver mine, now known as Silver Islet, was disclosed to white men.[citation needed]

* Patagons of Patagonia in South America, are giants claimed to have been seen by Ferdinand Magellan and his crew.
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 Author| Post time 25-10-2008 05:51 PM | Show all posts

More pics!




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Post time 25-10-2008 05:55 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by mac_taylor at 25-10-2008 01:13 PM

Aku ada baca kat mana tah aku pun dah luper, zaman dulu (time zaman Nabi Musa kot), org2nya besar2 aka tinggi2..
Air laut tu takat buku lali jer...

Wallahua'lam...   


Err.. air laut yang takat buku lali tu kat tepi pantai.... kalau ditengah, akan tenggelam (firaun dan tenteranya)
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 Author| Post time 25-10-2008 06:02 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Nazrulism at 25-10-2008 05:55 PM


Err.. air laut yang takat buku lali tu kat tepi pantai.... kalau ditengah, akan tenggelam (firaun dan tenteranya)



Itulah, aper bangang sgt mac taylor nie...   


Atau mgkn lautan zaman dulu jauh lebih dalam berbanding zaman kini?     
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