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Author: Truth.8

Why Muhammad uncle Abu Talib never convert to Islam?

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Post time 24-2-2007 06:35 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by salam03 at 24-2-2007 06:30 PM
Truth.8,
Now the burden is on your side to counter claim....eventhough u just copy and paste from this website http://answering-islam.org/Index/T/abu_talib.html or http://answering-islam.org/ind ...


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Post time 24-2-2007 07:46 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Nocturna at 24-2-2007 02:35 AM
wow..T8 really got his ass slapped in his own thread..backfired big time..!!!


Yeah..big time man...
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Post time 24-2-2007 08:57 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Truth.8 at 24-2-2007 03:45 PM


i am not going to reply all of your question because all those already reply long time ago. i am not going repeat like cd's player.

as for this i am so glad to reply but give me time beca ...


I asked you why Pharoah did not convert to the religion that Moses preached?

You asked me whether they are relatives.

Then i answered you: Yes, they are. Moses is the adopted brother of Pharoah. So i ask you again why pharoah did not convert? Are you sure all of the prophet's family converted to the religion they preached? If not then why are you so obsessed with prophet Muhammad's uncle Abu Talib?

And now you don't want to answer me!

If you expect refuse to answer everyone here, then for what funny reason you open this thread? Hey look here, i'm 23yo and you're 30++, don't you feel ashamed?

Ok, then you should tell me earlier you need time to search for the verse. For sure i will give you time. But i remembered you asked me to read the entire NT of bible, din't you? Do you know it's your responsibility to show up the verse since you raised the issue? Is this your manner to preach Christian?

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Post time 24-2-2007 09:02 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Truth.8 at 24-2-2007 03:45 PM


i am not going to reply all of your question because all those already reply long time ago. i am not going repeat like cd's player.


what if Jesus said like that?
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Post time 24-2-2007 09:06 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Presa1200 at 24-2-2007 09:02 PM


what if Jesus said like that?


T8 is nothing compare to Jesus a.s.

Save you energy Presa1200, he won't answer your question because he'll knew that the answer will backfire at him...all the premises of his argument will be useless if he answer it.

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Post time 24-2-2007 09:18 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by rurouni_khairul at 24-2-2007 09:06 PM


T8 is nothing compare to Jesus a.s.

Save you energy Presa1200, he won't answer your question because he'll knew that the answer will backfire at him...all the premises of his argument wil ...


haha...thanks. i already knew what he is.

Christian is nothing but a lie.

It's ok, i can play with him. (nothing lose, i can gain more credits )

For sure....his credits less than his posts figure. must be lots of deduction...hhhehehe

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Post time 24-2-2007 09:49 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Truth.8 at 24-2-2007 01:54 PM


it might make sense to you but sorry not to me


That is the most lamest excuse I've ever heard from you. Are you asking that you want an exact example of other past prophets whom their uncle did not embrace their teachings? An uncle is a family and within a family there's a large number of rank of position like father, mother, son, daughter, niece, nephew, uncle, aunty etc. The issue at hand here is you are trying to show that even Muhammad SAW family rejected his teachings whereas in reality it's not!... So that's why you don't want to reply to my previous post because the example I've given you is not directly related to Uncle-Nephew relationship...Now I can see your shallow thinking.
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Post time 24-2-2007 10:49 PM | Show all posts
it's useless trying to have a disussion with t8....he open a thread hoping that everyone would agree with him....he rejects answers that backfires him, by saying 'doesn't make sense'....

from the start he already wants to ignore others answers....

instead i already provided other examples...i al ready said Saidina Hamzah, another Muhammad's uncle who embraced Islam...

and there's Muhammad cousin Saidina Ali ibnu Abi Talib who became Muhammad's biggest supporter as well....and Ali is the son of Abu Talib....

T8 only picks Muhammad's uncle who did not embrace Islam...He refuse to take Muhammad's other relatives into accounts....
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Post time 25-2-2007 12:57 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Arissa_Sofea at 24-2-2007 10:49 PM
it's useless trying to have a disussion with t8....he open a thread hoping that everyone would agree with him....he rejects answers that backfires him, by saying 'doesn't make sense'....

from  ...


Yes, you're right.

Indeed, he only able to see the black dot on a piece of white paper but ignoring the rest part of it.

Most importantly, he so obsessed with Prophet Muhammad because he simply hates Islam. He hates islam means he already against all of the prophets before Muhammad that preached Allah is one.

Well, good luck for him at the Mahsyar field.

[ Last edited by  Presa1200 at 25-2-2007 01:00 AM ]
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 Author| Post time 25-2-2007 01:05 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Presa1200 at 24-2-2007 08:57 PM


I asked you why Pharoah did not convert to the religion that Moses preached?

You asked me whether they are relatives.

Then i answered you: Yes, they are. Moses is the adopted brother of ...


relatives in what way?  are both jews or egytian?

get the fact rite before it back fire you
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Post time 25-2-2007 01:16 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Truth.8 at 25-2-2007 01:05 AM


relatives in what way?  are both jews or egytian?

get the fact rite before it back fire you


So wat's the relevance?

Religion should be seperated by race and brethen?

So what about those Muhammad's uncle who embraced Islam?

What about those family who din't accept the preach of all the prophets?

Why are you so obsessed about prophet Muhammad?

What about those Jews who rejected Jesus's faith?

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Post time 25-2-2007 01:33 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Presa1200 at 25-2-2007 01:16 AM


So wat's the relevance?

Religion should be seperated by race and brethen?

So what about those Muhammad's uncle who embraced Islam?

What about those family who din't accept the preach ...


T8 so obsessed about prophet Muhammad because he soooooooooooooooo jealous

that our Prophet Muhammed (pbuh) have done so many good things and miracles.
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 Author| Post time 25-2-2007 10:26 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Presa1200 at 25-2-2007 01:16 AM


So wat's the relevance?

Religion should be seperated by race and brethen?

So what about those Muhammad's uncle who embraced Islam?

What about those family who din't accept the preach ...


so you made mistake by calling Moses and Pharaoh relative?
Next time read before you write.
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 Author| Post time 25-2-2007 10:30 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by WLIO at 25-2-2007 01:33 AM


T8 so obsessed about prophet Muhammad because he soooooooooooooooo jealous

that our Prophet Muhammed (pbuh) have done so many good things and miracles.


u mean your prophet performs miracles?? heheheheheh bila pula ?
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Post time 25-2-2007 02:41 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Truth.8 at 25-2-2007 10:30 AM


u mean your prophet performs miracles?? heheheheheh bila pula ?


Just look around you why Islam still exist.


kharrrr    kharrrr   kharrrr
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Post time 25-2-2007 06:16 PM | Show all posts

Reply #95 WLIO's post

Susah layan tua kutuk bodoh sombong nie...
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Post time 25-2-2007 10:50 PM | Show all posts
Maybe Truth doesn't realise that even within the sects in Islam, there's conflicting view of what Abu Talib's status was,  one is saying he's a Muslim, one says otherwise.

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 Author| Post time 26-2-2007 12:03 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by WLIO at 25-2-2007 02:41 PM


Just look around you why Islam still exist.


kharrrr    kharrrr   kharrrr




u mean not allowing muslims who wish to renounce to other faith?
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Post time 26-2-2007 12:05 AM | Show all posts
if you you want to renounce go a head

there's a lot more coming to ISLAM


and that's a MIRACLE


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Post time 26-2-2007 12:22 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by WLIO at 26-2-2007 12:05 AM
if you you want to renounce go a head

there's a lot more coming to ISLAM


and that's a MIRACLE


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This is one of them, an ex-priest who convert to Islam...Idris Tawfiq.

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