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Originally posted by otomantaro at 29-11-2007 07:19 PM 
sat sat.. ni truly yg kat CI ke.
pendapat aku.. manusia mmg tak akan berubah.. selagi otak dan cara berfikirnya tak berubah.. kecuali. berlaku satu satu perkara yg sangat drastik dlm hidup ora ...
hi otomantaro....truly yang ci lah...saja ubah angin....
i think you are right....kadang kadang need a catalyst....contoh, ada musibah besar berlaku, yang menyedarkan dari lena........ |
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Originally posted by hemorion at 29-11-2007 09:30 PM 
it is not easy, but it is possible
first sekali yang perlu ada dalam diri ialah keinginan to see good result 100% jitu, takmo sekerat jalan....
lepas tu kena belajar bersabar....tahap k ...
thanks for sharing yr experiences emo....boleh kita jadikan panduan  |
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Originally posted by bbakar at 29-11-2007 09:32 PM 
dia cuma akan berubah kalau disuntik kemahuan untuk berubah. kalau dia tak nak berubah, perubahan tak kan menjadi dan kalau menjadipun tak kekal.
hi bbakar....pokok pangkalnya kemahuan lah ya? tapi apa kata kalau berlaku musibah yang besar, yang memang memerlukan dia berubah......bolehkah kita ubah? |
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Originally posted by cleopatra at 29-11-2007 09:35 PM 
aku rasa seseorang tu bole diubah perangainye mengikut kesesuaian dan keserasian pasangan mereka..
contohnye...aku ni...jenis yg tak suka bercerita klu ada masalah...suka pendam jer..klu sakit ...
hi cleopatra..
hasben you ada mention tak, dia rasa you dah berubah, dia notice tak? hasben you pulak, ada tak banyak perubahan setelah kawin dengan you? |
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Reply #81 truly's post
mmmm i will fish for one... and since he's very stingy on compliments, and in the course of 10 yrs of our marriage, i know that he's an honest man, will say what he feel, never cover it for my liking, i know then that he's being truthful when he said so...
for instance: i cook something new that nite, i asked him is it good? and he said good.. so i was beaming with happiness. if its not that good, he will say "ok je" or "masin sgt" or "tak rasa rempah". he's that honest.. hehehehe.. |
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Originally posted by RedAlert at 30-11-2007 02:17 PM 
Teringat satu funny marriage quote, something like "you spent all your life looking for a perfect guy, the moment you married one you want him to change..."
good one redalert...
but i think the partner is not perfect to begin with....we just compromise dengan angan angan dia akan berubah demi kasih kat kita.... |
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Originally posted by LostSoul at 1-12-2007 01:20 PM 
mmmm i will fish for one... and since he's very stingy on compliments, and in the course of 10 yrs of our marriage, i know that he's an honest man, will say what he feel, never cover it for my li ...
so lostsoul tak ubah dia lah, but accept him as he is...and go around the problems. good strategy.....cuma leh makan ati tak? hehe |
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Originally posted by sig at 30-11-2007 02:27 PM 
dari dulu
aku paling tak suka nak ubah2 org
tp aku tak nafikan...ada org yg boleh ubah org lain
pd aku...kalau nak berubah..mesti diri dia sendiri yg mahu mengubah.
cth ler adik2 aku ...
betul tu sig....saya pernah cuba nak mengubah orang.....tapi akhirnya mengalah pada hakikat...payah orang nak berubah, walau kasih dia pada kita segunung intan  |
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Reply #88 truly's post
heh heh makan ati la kadang2.. but since he never try to change me, and i'm sure, he also dislikes many of my attitudes and doings but never force me to change for him, why can't i accept him as far as he can be influenced by me?  |
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Originally posted by Dunhill. at 30-11-2007 02:53 PM 
Nampak macam senang T tp bukan lah semudah yang disangka.. Misalannya mudah kah kita menyuruh orang yang biasa minum arak ataupon tahi nombor ekor berhenti dari terus melakukan perbuatannya ...
itu yang I nak tanya danhil......
kalau ada perangai kita tak suka, nak blah ke, nak cuba ubah dia? hehe.....boleh ke ubah. ni kat sini ramai kata boleh? agaknya ikut luck masing masing kut, kalau dapat pasangan tak ego boleh la....tapi lelaki mana ada yg tak ego.......wakakakaka. |
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Originally posted by LostSoul at 1-12-2007 01:26 PM 
heh heh makan ati la kadang2.. but since he never try to change me, and i'm sure, he also dislikes many of my attitudes and doings but never force me to change for him, why can't i accept him as ...
compromise la tu kan lostsoul?
kalau perkara kecil bolehlah....tapi perkara besar, kita kena fikir dalam dalam lah kan, sebelum jabat tangan kadhi? hehe
kalau dah jabat tangan....dalam hotsoup lah nanti. |
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Originally posted by Dunhill. at 30-11-2007 02:54 PM 
hehehehehe senang cakap lah babe.. cermin lah muka tu dulu.. kan ??? Dalam untuk mengubah orang lain jarang sangat kita lihat diri kita dulu..
apa cermin cermin ni danhil? hehe
aku percaya....lelaki kena berubah...pasal perempuan ni senang sangat........baik didikan lelaki baik la dia, lagipun perempuan senang nak berubah kalau dah sayang.....punca ni, lelaki hehe..... |
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Originally posted by ABAH35 at 30-11-2007 03:05 PM 
bini aku kekadang dia cakap...'abang ni dah tak macam dulu la masa bercinta ngan masa mula2 kawin'
kekadang dia cakap....'abang ni dari dulu perangai tak ubah2'
ntah...aku pun pening....tap ...
hi abah....
so you tak berubah apa apa lah ya?  |
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Originally posted by intanterpilih at 30-11-2007 03:18 PM 
Once upon a time, there was a king who ruled a prosperous country. One
day, he went for a trip to some distant areas of his country.
When he was back to his palace, he complained that his fee ...
thank you intan.....kalau semua orang change for the better......memang baguslah kan...
tapi change tu ikut accepted norm. selera pasangan tak sama, tak universal. apakah kita akan change untuk pasangan dan vice versa? |
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Originally posted by Sasha at 30-11-2007 05:03 PM 
kenapa nak ubahkan seseorg...once we love him/her ...we shd accept everything about her/him ..
hi Sasha......bagaimana kalau kita tak boleh accept satu satu perangai tapi kita cinta. nak tinggal atau compromise. thats the issue  |
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Originally posted by truly at 30-11-2007 11:54 PM 
good news faraway.....tandanya suami you sangat menghargai you dan rumahtangga, jadi dia willing untuk berubah. lelaki barat selalunya lebih gentleman.......(bukan la, jangan marah pulak.....cuma pengalaman yang seciput ni, nampak lelaki barat pandai menghargai isteri..)
its not easylah awal dulu macam dia tak dibenarkan
jumpa kawan ppuan sesorang, pegi rumah ppuan tanpa me, jaga batas sebab dia laki orang,
sebab dia bukan melayu ada banyak benda adalah normal bagi dia..
tapi bukan dalam budaya kita, kita kena cakap sebab
kenapa dan jangan lupa cakap apa akibat dari perbuatannya
bila dia faham kenapa, dia berubah sebab dia tau itu yang terbaik.
tapi taklah me ubah dia 100% macam nak dia jadi suami ciptaan me, apa yang
dia berubah itu smeua untuk kesejahteraan rumah tangga.. dan atas kerelaan dia..
ini penting, kalau dia berubah sebab dipaksa, takkan tahan lama sebelum dia jadi
seperti mana dia asalnya.. |
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Originally posted by eva at 30-11-2007 10:03 PM 
welcome to FD Truly.
ada juga betulnya kata penceramah tersebut... you never change anyone, a person will always be how ( i think dlm context nie maybe bukan how but who )he/seh is..
yeap ...
thanks for the warm welcome eva 
and thanks for sharing your expericences.......boleh di jadikan panduan...dan memberi hope pada orang yang punya pasangan yang ada ciri ciri tak menepati kehendak hati.
Im happy to hear that your marriage change you for the better.....dan nampak di sini adalah kemahuan hati sendiri untuk berubah, tanpa orang lain mengubah kita secara langsung. |
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Originally posted by BingkaUbi at 1-12-2007 12:22 PM 
ko bley ubah seseorang kalu ko tahu kat mana kelemahan dia, dr situ ko bley paksa dia berubah....walaupung bkn dgn rela ati dia...janji perubahan tuh tuk kebaikan bersama....sama mcm org kata kit ...
betul tu, satu strategy yang boleh di cuba....walau agak dirty.....hehe. cumanya, berapa lama kenal baru nak boleh tahu kelemahan? satu lagi, mungkin dengan gunakan kelemahan dia, akan menjadikan dia ada dendam pada kita, kerana dia merasakan, walau tak mahu, dia terpaksa berubah.
tapi saya percaya, sebenarnya, kita boleh mengubah orang kepada keburukan, bukan kebaikan. ini amat mudah berlaku. pasangan menjadi bertambah buruk perangai setelah tidak berpuas hati dengan kita. |
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