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[MERGED] Pentingkah DARA kepada LELAKI - by annyss1987,Abang NUN & Asnomie

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Post time 6-9-2006 02:54 PM | Show all posts

Reply #78 chemist_UTM's post

dlm majalah ada ckp mcm tu... dlm buku permata yghilang pon ada bgtau..... jenis yg xde selaput dar atu pon ada...

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Post time 6-9-2006 02:57 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by hainina at 6-9-2006 02:54 PM
dlm majalah ada ckp mcm tu... dlm buku permata yghilang pon ada bgtau..... jenis yg xde selaput dar atu pon ada...


:setuju: :setuju:

tu la..so kalau pompuan tu masih suci tp dia masuk dlm kategori org yg selaput dara nipis a.k.a tak keluar dara masa 1st time dia melakukan hubungan seksual,adakah adil suami dia nak ceraikan dia ke atas alasan dia tak suci?

thats why me kata..benda2 mcm ni jgn sempitkan fikiran kita..

yakin lah..

"lelaki yg baik utk pompuan yg baik..pompuan yg baik utk lelaki yg baik"
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Post time 7-9-2006 02:50 PM | Show all posts
"lelaki yg baik utk pompuan yg baik..pompuan yg baik utk lelaki yg baik"

da x ramai yg guna ... yg laki mcm x sedo diri jer.. dowang rase dowang je yg bagus kuikuikui...
podahh!!. nak yg baik tapi diri sendir hampess jer...
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Post time 21-10-2006 08:05 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by chemist_UTM at 6-9-2006 10:08 AM

pada pendapat saya, dara tu bukan soalnya..coz dara tu hanya satu selaput yg akan hilang..dan tak semestinya bila hilang dara akan keluar darah...depend pada ketebalan selaput tu..

tp how about yg sengaja bagi dara kat org..or mengamalkan seks bebas b4 kawin..maybe this is the big issue here..
kalau dah insaf,kita sbg manusia kena memaafkan..tp if nak teruskan perhubungan,pastikan dikemudian hari takde ungkit mengungkit..


just my 2 cents
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yes. i am in the agreement with the highlighted statement above totally...
typical men suuuuuuuusaahh nak accept wife-to-be diorang dah x virgin yg disbbkan oleh past experiences. i am not interested on tiada dara pasal sports ka, kena rogol ka those are not same dengan loss virginity pasal seks bebas... macam western bukan macam orang islam...

kalau dah insaf pun.. entahlah.. setakat ni aku tak jumpa lagi la lelaki sanggup nak kawin dengan orang buat ngan org lain... this is a big issue though. waima lelaki yang dah buat pon insist for bakal isteri diorang virgin as a prerequisite, apatah lagi ngan lelaki teruna yang instill d religious faith walaupun ke mana diorang pii....



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Post time 21-10-2006 10:01 AM | Show all posts
lets put it this way --
dara  bukan penentu kebahagiaan rumah tangga -

lelaki yang based on dara untuk berkahwin --
tak akan mendapat kebahagiaan yang sebenar --

tetapi based on the person herself --
seorang yang beriman  solehah  dan ciri2 yang
lelaki tu inginkan  ---  plus ada trust dan understanding -
those whats important ---

u ada dara pun sebelum berkahwin
-- kalau tak reti menguruskan rumahtangga
perangai  semacam  melawan  suami, keluar rumah
tak tentu hala  --tak reti uruskan anak -  dan sebagainya --
apa kes?
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Post time 21-10-2006 04:09 PM | Show all posts
dara  bukan penentu kebahagiaan rumah tangga -

memang betul dara bukan penentu kebahagiaan
tetapi dara adalah penting sebagai salah satu elemen
untuk tidak ungkit2 kesilapan dulu..
untuk tidak gaduh2 kendian hari..

u ada dara pun sebelum berkahwin
-- kalau tak reti menguruskan rumahtangga
perangai  semacam  melawan  suami, keluar rumah
tak tentu hala  --tak reti uruskan anak -  dan sebagainya --
apa kes?


aku tak nafikan langsung
but then ini bukan soal dia...
kenapa hang suka ambik contoh extreme
itu kes tak reti uruskan rumahtangga
macmana pulak ada dara dan pandai urus rumahtangga, dan semuanya?
ini yang kita hendak cari!
and this is my leading point tuan/puan dexa...

selamat eid mubarak selamat makan sate~
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Post time 21-10-2006 04:54 PM | Show all posts

Reply #84 alcapone's post

saya rasa contoh  yang dibagi tak extreme langsung
tapi yang extreme ialah yang menganggap dara
adalah important aspect in the marriage
i am sticking to the topic ---
yang betanyakan tentang  hal ini --
and the answer is nope -- it is not that important
it is NOT as important as the PERSON itself --


memang betul dara bukan penentu kebahagiaan
tetapi dara adalah penting sebagai salah satu elemen
untuk tidak ungkit2 kesilapan dulu..
untuk tidak gaduh2 kendian hari


element untuk tidak mengungkit?? penting?
to each his own --- and my previous post
already  explain the instance  -- simple one actually -
kalau the dara is too important for this guy
he wont marry that woman without one
thus thats irrelevant --

moreover to define whether the girl has a dara
already or not -- bukan sesuatu yang visible -
especially  kalau mengambil aspect  ada dara is important
for the guy to marry  ---  what if girl has no dara cuz being raped
when she was young,  or  too active in sports,  or
she actually has NO idea that she has no dara -- she just dun have.. ---
adakah itu juga akan diungkit ??
what a sad thing for that guy ---


i disagree re: this is too important aspect -
and  i dun doubt there're men out there yang
merasakan  it is crucial for them to marry as such --
and for them -- good luck -- and perhaps wud be
a bonus for them  - berkahwin yang masih dara
(not sure how they gonna differentiate that)
and as well pandai dalam urusan rumahtangga
and taking care of the family ---
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Post time 21-10-2006 06:12 PM | Show all posts

Reply #85 dexa's post

hayya... lu talak paham ka. bole baca betui2 dak
tolong tengok posting #82 2nd para... i am not interested nor to discuss on the no hymen bcoz of sports or kena raped ! but i am referring to is no dara = seks before marriage. that's concern most men yg concern lah kan..

and it is still and will foreverly important as one of the element
at least for my in lawss-to-be la lagi 100 tahun ka apa...

macamana nak tau org tu loss virginity pasal make love?
saya rasa easy for men to discover at least for my reference lah
a friend of mine doctor sakit puan
banyak ilmu dia bagi ... so yang itu tidak mengapa...
insya allah boleh tau...

tidak perlulah  bold pulak
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Post time 21-10-2006 06:38 PM | Show all posts

Reply #86 alcapone's post


i know u not interested in that  --
and i didnt mentioned about those  
sports stuff and bla bla before either --
i just mentioned re: topic

macamana nak tau org tu loss virginity pasal make love?
saya rasa easy for men to discover at least for my reference lah


well -- kena salute la kat you
and good for you if u know how to discover
a stranger yang u tak kenal from adam -then u married her
and then u know she actually didnt have virginity
cuz of  make love ---

and if thats important for you and you in laws
for another 100 years --  well -- great then --

it it not important for me --
never will be ---
i am a guy ka  a girl ka --
my answer to this thread remains  --
thats not important thing in the marriage -
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Post time 21-10-2006 06:46 PM | Show all posts

Reply #87 dexa's post

important or not to you... i just dont care
and dont give a damn
and mintak2 kite tidak berbesan hahahha
as i am just telling my opinion here
and am no intention nak gaduh2..
apatah lagi bulan puasa ni

peace mr !
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Post time 21-10-2006 09:23 PM | Show all posts

Reply #88 alcapone's post

hahahaa
mana ada gaduh gaduh --
semua orang entitle to an opinion
so do you and so am i ---
thats whats forum is all about -
it is not about who is right or
who is wrong  --
it is about views and opinions --  

btw i am not a mr  -
but no worries --   -

selamat hari raya
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Post time 21-10-2006 09:30 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Enaklazat at 16-7-2006 07:24 PM
Penting ... Sangat penting utk org kita.
Bebas camner pong jauh di sudut hati orng lelaki musti nak yg asal. Tp lelaki pun kena masih Teruna gak la.....



interesting --- your view here ---
thats depends pulak on the girls -
walaupun dia masih dara - tapi
dia mungkin bukan narrow minded --
dan open to whoever her husband will be -
kalau tak teruna pun -- tapi at the time
they gonna get married - lelaki tu lelaki yang
beriman dan boleh membimbing who gives
a sheep about his past --- whats important
who is he now  and whats his goals in this  marriage --
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Post time 22-10-2006 12:50 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by dexa at 21-10-2006 09:23 PM
hahahaa
mana ada gaduh gaduh --
semua orang entitle to an opinion
so do you and so am i ---
thats whats forum is all about -
it is not about who is right or
who is wrong  --
it is about vie ...



so you are a miss, huh... tapi nie bod atw or atm? all this while you aktif semacam dalam bod ni rope2nye pompuan?
confused2

not sure whether your defensive opinion above
is hinting something wakakaka....
tapi tidak mengapa dong
mind our own butt right...sorry
lantak hang la... yg pasti ngko tau apa hang buat

a thought
macamana ya...
kalo you sekarang ni ada anak pompuan
tidak kira lah 1 or 3 or 5
katakan semua pompuan...

and you never bother about virginity = sex before marriage
dan ngko mungkin tidak emphasize on this issue
sigh... kesian2 kat bangsa ku... [kalau you malay muslim la i.e. sama bangsa ngan aku la]
again, lantak hang la... yg pasti ngko tau apa hang buat

peace!

[ Last edited by  alcapone at 22-10-2006 01:44 AM ]
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Post time 23-10-2006 01:51 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by demonicboy at 13-8-2006 09:59 AM


lelaki miang ni takkan habis atau boleh dikurangkan....mmg dasar lelaki mcm tu....kalau lelaki dgn pomp sama...sure ader kes lelaki kene rogol pomp...
sekarang ni kalau pomp pandai jaga kehorm ...


aku penah tengok pempuan baik buat maksiat
dia ni punya alim,semayang tak penah tinggal.sekali tu buat projek dalam hotel dengan bf dia.pastu siap bleh semayang hajat lagi the next day,bukan mintak ampun,tapi mintak tak nak pregnant(dia sendiri bagitau aku nih)

and camne aku nampak diorg buat projek?sebab time tu kitorang ada studython buat kat hotel(time form 5),minah ni g ajak bf dia masuk bilik.aku tersedar dalam kegelapan malam,bunyik orang mengerang2 di sebelah katil aku.......dan peristiwa ni bukan berlaku di bandar besar ye.Dua2 budak yg buat projek tu pon asal dari kampung pedalaman jek.

so nye,memang ADA perempuan baik buat maksiat.zaman skrg ni,mcm2 boleh jadi beb
so takyah la nak stereotype sangat orang..
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Post time 23-10-2006 03:58 PM | Show all posts

Reply #91 alcapone's post

hahaha..... macam macam --

i think u dah out of  the topic  on
your last reply --
who gives a rat azz whether i am a woman
or a guy -  besides ---
i can post  wherever i want  

but topic remains --
and still in discussion re:
penting sangat ke  DARA tu  sebelum marriage
tu aje--

tak payah la nak bagi andaian macam2 --
u cakap  it is PENTING  -- so  fine then
i cakap it is TAK PENTING --  thats it ---
tak penting didnt mean never bother --
i only refer in this discussion only  ---

i have my own opinion and you have yours
thats all there is to it
i never said u were right  neither i said i am wrong  

anyway--- tak payah la quote saya lagi --
i said what i did --  and i think u said yours --
and i will always disagree with your opinion
in this matter   ----  enuff said --   

--- dex --
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Post time 23-10-2006 03:59 PM | Show all posts

Reply #92 sharingan86's post

thanks shar  for sharing the story --
interesting   ye!!!
memang tak payah la  nak stereotype orang  --
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Post time 24-10-2006 05:19 PM | Show all posts
dara penting bagi wa. sebab wa bukan jenis tebuk anak dara orang. so wa mahukan wanita yang ada dara untuk jadi bini wa.
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Post time 25-10-2006 10:33 AM | Show all posts
InsyaAllah riot
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Post time 25-10-2006 08:38 PM | Show all posts
susah nie.....
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Post time 25-10-2006 09:24 PM | Show all posts
dah lama dut memikirkan hal ini, dari segi moral dan Agama mmg teramat di titik berat kan hal penjagaan 'mahkota' seseorang wanita itu.

tapi dut juga in agreement dgn Dex yg ianyer bukan ler a ticket to paradise.

lagi2 in these age and time,susah benar nak cari yg masih mengekalkan 'kedaraan'mereka, and dut takmo menjadi a goodie two shoes in menghentam mereka yg sudah hilang mahkota mereka

ramai juga yg sudah hilang kedaraan mereka setelah mempercayai teman/tunang masing2, walaupun salah mereka sendiri, pada dut selalunyer lelaki sebegini lah yg TERAMAT menitik beratkan mengenai isu DARA ini

dut juga mengenali berapa orang  lelaki sebegini muahahahaha :lol teruk mereka nak defense kan perihal ini......

in closing nak mendirikan rumahtangga melibat kan isu2 yg lebey berat pada dut dari isu DARA ini, lelaki tu stable tak, boleh membimbing tak,boleh menjadi ketua keluarga yg baek tak, dan mcm2 lagi

for me to each their own in finding their quest for their paradise
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