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Originally posted by minipuff at 19-2-2009 21:56 
oh tersilap...yahiko tu yg ada kuasa macam graviti tu kan? ya nagato sepatutnya yang pendiam masa kecik
Yup..
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oh konan kenapa jadi macam tu...satu satunya kunoichi kat akatsuki... |
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kurus kering nye badan...
sekali aku rasengannn jek hancuq bdn si yahikoo nii.... |
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Reply #1183 hantamal's post
kan...kena mini rasengan konohamaru pon dah cukup  |
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mayb sbb yahiko mati...then nagato nak membls dendam...
kan ke7-7 pein tu adlh corpse je yg tlah dihidupkn smula.... |
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tgh bca |
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ape la nagato ni dok membebel.. tau la naruto tu muda, sure tak tau nak balas balik ape dia cakap.. ni yg tak suka ni... dia sorang je nak menang..
mintak2 naruto dapat membetulkan balik pemikiran nagato ni.. |
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borak jer lebih episod kali ni.. |
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agaknye mane lebih hebat? rinnegan ke sharingan? 2-2 ade kelemahan.. tapi nampak sharingan lebih hebat kan? boleh tak naruto kalahkan mata sharingan madara yeak? ye la.. sharingan yg leh cross dimension is quite powerful.. lagipon, dia dah tak de side effect excessive used of the eyes.. bunyi cam takde kelemahan.. tapi mesti leh kalahkan nye.. 
naruto takde mata camtu ker?? |
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rinnegan ni power camne ek?cam byakugan je... |
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Originally posted by Santeira at 20-2-2009 17:13
I can conclude it even now. Six Paths of Pain is just a Ninjutsu Nagato uses. That is why he constantly need new bodies to act on the Six Paths of Pain. Tapi bila dia buat ninjutsu ni, Chakra dia ...
Oklah oklah akak..
Saya memang akui Madara mungkin adalah boss jahat utama,tetapi yang pasti Nagato tidak akan mati semudah dan secepat ini. Sekarang ini baru masuk proses perkembangan watak Nagato,yakni bagaimana dia boleh jadi sebegitu dan apa akan jadi pada dirinya tanpa Six Paths dan Deva Pein merangkap badan kawan baiknya Yahiko. Keupayaan sebenar mata Rinnegan pun masih belum diceritakan lagi, jadi sila beri ruang dan peluang untuk Peintards lagi nyek..
Lagipun akak perasan tak watak Nagato ini hampir serupa dengan Naruto baik dari segi nama dan kisah lampau. Kedua-dua watak ini menjadi yatim piatu sejak dari kecil, dilatih oleh guru yang sama yakni Jiraiya, dikhabarkan dalam ramalan Tok Katak dan mempunyai visi yang sama iaitu cuba mencapai keamanan sejagat. Perbezaannya adalah mereka berdua mempunyai mekanisme yang berbeda dalam mecapai keamanan. Meraka berdua adalah "two faces of a coin", dibezakan dari segi didikan dan pengaruh persekitaran..
Akak silalah baca esei yang dibuat oleh seorang forumer forum "Narutofan.com" mengenai Pein di bawah ini, sungguh menarik sekali analisa yang dibuat olehnya..
Honestly I was expecting the standard powerful character but I'm glad it didn't turn out that way. Just imagine how Nagato possibly ended up this way and then combine with that his speeches, him using Pain and then finally seeing him in the end look like this.
Nagato's been using Pain for years and it's easy to see exactly why he looks like that. Put another shinobi in that scenerio. He's weak,feeble and skinny on the outside but his mental abilities, intelligence and will power are top notch. His body's been honed essentially for taking care of Pain. No one else can do that. If they tried they'd probably die from the pure strain and hardwork forced to do that.There's really no character besides him that can think like 6 people and do what he's been doing this entire time.
Putting his body on the line and now he looks like Dhalsim with Oro's face on a Metagross.
Nagato is what Naruto could have become 30 years down the road had he had the wrong ideas put in his head and if he twisted up weird comments. Say Naruto didn't have Yamato's speech and was truly fine with using Kyuubi's chakra all this time. When he's 35 he would have tobe hooked up to some super machine to protect his body, he'd need are spirator to breathe, he'd basically be a well-torned shell simply for Kyuubi just to achieve peace like Nagato without any jutsu or anything similar to how he is now. People, that's not what he is. Nagato is this way to show everyone what can go wrong and on the same token his little brother is over there doing what he should have done fighting his heart out. Nagato could have kept using his original skills, get stronger and although it would have taken longer he sacrificed that in other to use Pain and gain another strength. Wasted potential? I see it as switching styles for a price.
Nagato's the most hardcore person in this manga even above Kimimaro.Kimimaro was dying and yet he got off his death bed and went to pwnsome noobs. Nagato though has used Pain for this long and had his body turn into a visually physical weak feeble shell of itself while honing his mental skills to control 6 people at once. Day in and day out he'shad the same routine trying to accomplish his goals while others do things there way. Pushing his body to the brink of damn near killing himself just to see that dream. Forcing himself to go so far and in the end what do we see as a result? Nagato's physical form, a different style and his untapped potential shattered (atleast so far) instead of a physically strong powerful amazing shinobi all in order to acheve his dream of peace.
Big brother indeed. Naruto and Nagato are sides of coin and well it's an interesting one at that. I'm so glad Kishi did this to the story. It can only get better from this point on in character development forboth sides. I wouldn't mind him getting a "rebirth" later on if it'sdone right. Perhaps a Nagato in his full perfect form after Pain's been killed. Maybe he'll have an epiphany and we'll see him get out of that machine, honing his body though the chapters until we finally see him later on? I don't know what'll happen but either way good choice Kishi.
I love it Kishi. Keep it up.
sumber:http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=476879
Dalam episod terbaru ni, akak kagum tak dengan syarahan yang dibuat oleh Nagato kepada Naruto menagai kitaran kemanan serta Dendam v.s Keadilan? Bagi pendapat saya, tidak dinafikan visi Nagato itu agak ekstrem, tetapi masih lagi di dalam lingkungan rasionaliti seperti ingin mencapai keamanan sebaik mungkin walaupun mustahil untuk aman selama-lamanya kerana sikap manusia yang kompleks membataskannya.Naruto yang petah berbicara itu sendiri pun terdiam dan tidak tahu apa yang perlu dijawab ke atas persoalan ringkas daripda Nagato. Persoalan Dendam v.s Keadilan memang agak rumit untuk dijawab, khususnya kepada individu yang mempunyai kisah lampau yang gelap seperti Naruto,Nagato, Sasuke mahupun Madara sendiri..
Nagato bagi saya memang seorang yang idealis, cuma mungkin tidak mempunyai kematangan, kelicikan serta pengalaman sehebat Madara.Terpulang kepada penilaian subjektif orang ramai samada hendak melihat visi Nagato itu adalah mulia dan patut ataupun bersifat kejam lagi sadistik. Terpulang jua kepada orang ramai samada hendak melihat Nagato ini seorang yang mental,pendendam,terpesong dan utopian atau melihatnya sebagai seorang yang cintakan keamanan, idealis dan sayang kan rakan2nya. Cuma saya rasa Naruto akan cuba memaafkan Nagato dan akan membawanya pulang kepada keadaan normal seperti manusia lain. Mana tahu mungkin Naruto akan bekerjasama dengan "abangnya" itu untuk memerangi Madara,Danzou,Kabutomaru atau Kyuubi sendiri seperti kisah Star Wars?
Walau apa terjadipun, Nagato/Pein tetap menjadi antara watak komik Naruto kegemaran saya selain daripada Itachi, Sasori, Deidara dan Zetsu..:2cool:
[ Last edited by Neraka Bulan at 20-2-2009 08:09 PM ] |
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Reply #1197 Neraka Bulan's post
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bgt teliti ye explaination ko |
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Originally posted by dauswq at 20-2-2009 20:14
bgt teliti ye explaination ko
Terima kasih |
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Post time 19-2-2009 09:58 PM
MS milik Kakashi..
MS milik Itachi
MS milik Sasuke a.k.a Jewsuke
Post time 20-2-2009 08:14 PM
