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Siapa Penghuni Dunia Sebelum Adam?

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Post time 18-4-2012 06:19 PM | Show all posts
Post Last Edit by intrepidity at 18-4-2012 18:39

Lawak Cilok dan Ulang:

Jins shamsuddin = bebas berlakon ke mercu kejayaan
Jinbara = bebas bernyanyi seta menghasilkan album. Serta resort perkhemahan di sg kemensah, belakang zoo negara.
Jinjang = dikaitkan dengan penduduk yang berpakaian `over' suatu masa dahulu.
Jintan = kalo guna dalam masakan tambah `kick' sket.
Jintex = syarikat elektronik  dan juga syarikat pengeluar kain microfiber.
Jin Akanishi = penyanyi jepun yang poplar...poplar weh!
Jin Kazama = kalo aku main TEKKEN(TM) aku salo amik dia nih..xterer manapun aku main hehe
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Post time 18-4-2012 10:39 PM | Show all posts
Post Last Edit by intrepidity at 18-4-2012 23:39

Haa ini harus dibaca tentang pandainya makhluk/haiwan purba/primitif (disangka manusia) yang telah dijumpai. Setakat ni la baru dikatakan ajaib dan menakjubkan. Itupun KALAU carbon dating proses itu betul menyatakan pembinaan circa 10,000BC.

Göbekli Tepe

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6bekli_Tepe
http://science.nationalgeographic.com/science/archaeology/photos/gobekli-tepe/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ ... onehenge-house.html
http://grasptheuniverse.com/ancient-artifacts/gobekli-tepe/

Lihat bagaimana makhluk primitif ini menggambarkan segala macam binatang dalam depiction ukiran mereka. Makhluk primitif zaman ini mungkin merupakan yang paling advance sekali, sebelum turunnya Nabi Adam. Ikut logik akal, makhluk ini dah kuasai ukiran batu, binaan struktur kasar dan mungkin pengajaran `kasar/awal' sesama sendiri (belajar/diajar cara memburu, mungkin, seperti terdapat dalam ukiran binatang mereka)

Mungkin masa inilah pertembungan Nabi Adam sebagai manusia lengkap mentadbir bumi, dan penutupnya era makhluk primitif cro-magnon.

Ataupun yang lebih logik, carbon dating mmg salah. Dan ini adalah antara puak menyembah berhala seperti banyak berlaku di zaman kebangkitan tamadun manusia/Egypt/Firaun.

Comments? Pendapat?

Wallahu'alam.
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Post time 19-4-2012 05:58 AM | Show all posts
Post Last Edit by intrepidity at 19-4-2012 06:29
thessailly Post at 19-4-2012 00:50



Shoe Print in Granite

http://paleo.cc/paluxy/nevada.htm


Australopithecus afarensis

Australopithecusafarensis is an extinct hominid that lived between 3.9 and 2.9 million years ago.

*Read hominid / humanoid = macam manusia tapi bukan. Jelas dalam wiki tu gambo binatang beruk le. Beruk mampu berdiri, mcm beruk sekarang, yang tidak menghairankan.



Sculpture Carved 35,000 Years Ago Might beWorld's Oldest According to Archaeologists

TUEBINGEN, GERMANY.- The finding is a sensation, since it offers a new light onthe first artistic expressions of primitive man in Europe and probably in the whole world, informed Nicholas Conard, professor of archaeology from the University of Tuebingen and responsible for the excabations.
The venus, which will be shown starting in september at Kunstgebäude in Stuttgart, was found broken in six pieces some 20 meters from the entrance to the cave and is missing the left arm. The site of Hohle Fels stands 534 meters above see level in the Ach River Valley, a tributary of the Danube. Theexcavations at Hohle Fels are currently directed by Nicholas Conard and Hans-Peter Uerpmann and have been ongoing since 1977. Hohle Fels Cave has yielded tens of thousands of finds dating to the Magdelanian ca. 13,000 yearsago, and the Gravettian ca. 29,000 years ago. These finds include diverse stonetools, ornaments, remains of fireplaces, and the remains of game animals including reindeer, horse, mammoth and woolly rhinoceros.


Dalam website sendiri kata makhluk purba buat. Ada beruk humanoid yang pandai ngukir sket. Macam Picasso/Rembrandt zaman dia la. Artistik punya humanoid purba.



Ancient Footprint

The Image (right) is from the Zapatatrack, found in Permian limestone in New Mexico. In 1987, not far from theZapata track site, paleontologist Jerry MacDonald discovered a variety of beautifully preserved fossil footprints in Permian strata. The Robledo Mountainsite contains thousands of footprints and invertebrate trails that represent dozens of different kinds of animals. Because of the quality of preservation and sheer multitude of different kinds of footprints, this tracksite has been called the most important Early Permian sites ever discovered. Some that have visited the site remark that it contains what appears to be a barefoot humanprint. "The fossil tracks that MacDonald has collected include a number of what paleontologists like to call ‘problematica.’ On one trackway, for example,a three-toed creature apparently took afew steps, then disappeared--as though it took off and flew. 'We don't know of any three-toed animals in the Permian,' MacDonald pointed out. ‘And therearen't supposed to be any birds.’ He's got several tracks where creatures appear to be walking on their hind legs, others that look almost simian. On onepair of siltstone tablets, I notice some unusually large, deep and scary-looking footprints, each with fivearched toe marks, like nails. I comment that they look just like bear tracks.‘Yeah,’ MacDonald says reluctantly, ‘they sure do.’ Mammals evolved long after the Permian period, scientists agree, yet these tracks are clearly Permian."
While it is commendable that MacDonald and the Smithsonian clearly acknowledge the existence of these tracks in a strata thatcontradicts the current evolutionary theory, it is noteworthy that they highlight only the mammal and birdprints, and don't mention the human footprint found with them.

("PetrifiedFootprints: A Puzzling Parade of Permian Beasts," The Smithsonian,Vol. 23, July 1992, p.70.)


Jerry MacDonald sendiri menyangkalakan ketiadaan burung (kerana ada tapak kaki burung) dizaman Permian, tapi tapaknya ada..makanya dia sendiri tak yakin nak membuktikan bahawa adanya tapak kaki berjari lima (read beruk, bukan manusia – tengok rupa bentuk dah nampaktapak beruk). Lagipun, dia ada jumpa tapak berjari lima yang dia sendiri mengaku seperti tapak beruang (mungkin beruk tak potong kuku)...so camne nakkata unik? Semua ini adalah kerana berlandaskan teori evolusi sebagai garismasa, maka tidak mustahil segala macam binatang dah wujud time tu. Cumakepastian tak wujud tentang binatang apa dah ada, cuma rasional saintis menurut evolutionary timeline sahaja.




Semi-ovoid metallic tubes dug out of65-million-year-old Cretaceous chalk.

http://www.badarchaeology.com/?page_id=272

In 1968, the speleologists Y Druet andH Salfati claimed to have discovered a number of semi-ovoid metallic tubes theybelieved to be artificial in Cretaceous (Aptian) chalk at a quarry in St-Jeande Livet (Calvados, France), which they announced in a letter to the editors of Planète, a French magazine devoted to unsolved mysteries (TABLOID NIH).The tubes were shaped identically, but their sizes varied between 30 and 90 mm in length, and 10 and 40 mm in width (Druet & Salfati 1969, 22). According to the authors of the letter (dated 30 September 1968), the objects were currently being studied by the Geomorphology Laboratory of the Université de Caen, but nothing further seems to be known about them. Several requests by the author for further information from the Department have failed to produce a response; Cremo and Thompson, in Forbidden Archeology state that they have had a similar lack of answer.


Kalo tulen dan benar perjumpaan, respon la University tu dan kasi geologist/archaeologist profesional check. Ini main claim je. Aku pun boleh kata pisau lipat aku umur 65 juta tahun. Ini lebih kes pembentukan mineral besi ajaib secara geogoli yang berusia ribuan/jutaantahun – natural mineralization. Kasi kaji ilmu natural ores and resources.


TIME UPSIDE DOWN

Ayat terakhir:


`Many of these curious reports cannot be verified to our satisfaction today. The reports seem to this observer, however, to be too varied and widespread to be nothing but hoaxes. In this section again, we see many reasons to respect the sophistication of men who lived long ago. The concept of a young earth here too fits well with the kind of finds that have been made.'


Artikel panjang pasal memacam jumpa dalam arang batu dan tempat lain - akhirnya semua hilang seolah tak mahu dikaji kesahihahannya. Proses gitu = hoax, kerana inginkan cerita itu tidak di `debunk' dan kekal misteri sempena mencipta nama sebagai orang yang jumpa. Selain dari itu segala yang jumpa berupa bentuk alatan purba.


Banyak contoh2 di atas lahir dari tabloid dan bukan dari saintis sebenar. Kisah cerita disedapkan (jadi bahan sembang kedai kopi) untuk menimbulkan misteri kepada para pembaca, baru boleh jual tabloid. Beribu lagi kisah yang kononnya ajaib, misteri, supernatural, out-of-place, extra-terrestrial yang ada. Selagi manusia masih mengkaji secara saintifik kejadian alam dan penghuninya, sentiasa itu timeline kewujudan makhluk bumi dan manusia akan berubah. Tiada akan definite, kerana tiada proses  yang unggul dapat membuktikan kesahihan `claim' tersebut, apalagi semua berlandaskan tanggapan, tanpa bukti bertulis yang konkrit sepertimana zaman kita sekarang.


Kisah penemuan barang itu ,mungkin tulen, tapi tiada extensive research yang membuktikan bahwa dia tidak oleh dikembali kait kepada penciptaan melalui alam semulajadi atau sains. Kebanyakan adalah tanggapan semata tentang teori yang individu itu sendiri ingin percaya - makhluk asing (UFO), makhluk ghaib (jin/hantu), teori evolusi, mahupun agama yang membawa cerita dan gambaran berbeza2.


Kalo bab jin yang dicari - pasti ada sepertimana disebut dalam kisah Nabi Sulaiman...itulah mungkin peninggalan nyata yang fizikal dalam pembinaan istana Nabi Sulaiman, mengikut riwayat kisah Nabi-nabi. Namun begitu terlalu banyak versi cerita dan riwayat berbeza tentang penglibatan jin masa itu. Cukuplah kita akui bahawa Nabi Sulaiman mempunyai mukjizat pemberian Allah tersebut. Itu yang pasti, dan dipercayai kalau mengaku Muslim.


Wallahu'alam.

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Post time 19-4-2012 10:02 AM | Show all posts
Reply  intrepidity


  give time..aku nk cari contoh yg solid sikit..
thessailly Post at 18-4-2012 18:15


hahahahahaaa
ape lagi ko nak temberang dol??
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Post time 19-4-2012 10:21 AM | Show all posts
Reply 1345# intrepidity


   apa yg ko nk cuba nk cakap ni? sum it up plis.
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Post time 19-4-2012 10:31 AM | Show all posts
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   apa yg ko nk cuba nk cakap ni? sum it up plis.
thessailly Post at 19-4-2012 10:21



1. Ori question dari thesailly = jin itu fizikal atau tidak dari dahulu (sebelum Adam), hingga ada kesannya di bumi.
2. Contoh `solid' thesailly kasi.
3. Saya (cuba) jawab menurut Islam dan `sains' tentangnya, menurut kajian yang memang telah dibuat, serta kesangsian contoh2 tersebut untuk mengaitkan kepada peninggalan jin.

Kalo jin bersifat fizikal dan peninggalan yang nyata:
Refer paragraph hujung saya mengenai kisah Nabi Sulaiman.

Wallahu'alam.
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Post time 19-4-2012 12:15 PM | Show all posts
Reply 1348# intrepidity


   ha??
ni few examples lg..

http://www.rense.com/general24/civ.htm
-peta 120 juta tahun

https://www.forbiddenhistory.info/?q=node/2
-ada banyak..

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_historia_humanidad_2.htm
-Sources suggest that human life began on this planet 5.5 - 10.5 million years ago, though the first "humans" did not have physical bodies. There is a suggestion that the Sphinx may date back about 5 million years. Some of the sources include:
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Post time 19-4-2012 12:17 PM | Show all posts
Reply 1349# thessailly

suke sangat cite tabloid
banyak bace mestika kot
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Post time 19-4-2012 12:20 PM | Show all posts
kes/teori gua solid. ayat Quran ada, bukti fizikal ade. sila jgn jeles.

hahahahahahhaah
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Post time 19-4-2012 12:24 PM | Show all posts
These early races created bodies because they wanted to experience life in physical form, and some of these bodies may not have been human - the mythical centaurs (half man, half horse) may have been result of some of their experiments.

-selari tak ngn apa yg aku kate? (post #1338)
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Post time 19-4-2012 12:57 PM | Show all posts
kes/teori gua solid. ayat Quran ada, bukti fizikal ade. sila jgn jeles.

hahahahahahhaah
thessailly Post at 19-4-2012 12:20


ayat quran surah mane ko pakai?? surah al ankabut??
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Post time 19-4-2012 12:58 PM | Show all posts
Reply 1353# unekspekted_XII

ko ade masalah ape?short term memory loss?
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Post time 19-4-2012 12:59 PM | Show all posts
Reply 1354# thessailly

ko yg merapek.. ayat Quran mane ko pakai?? versi thomas??
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Reply 1355# unekspekted_XII


   tak ah..versi karangan nenek ko.
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Post time 19-4-2012 01:02 PM | Show all posts
Reply 1356# thessailly

nenek aku tak tulis Quran.. nenek ko kot.. ilham UFO
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Post time 19-4-2012 01:03 PM | Show all posts
Reply 1357# unekspekted_XII

mana ko tau..ko jaga nenek ko sejak kecik ke? ufo? ade aku sebut ufo ke?
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Post time 19-4-2012 01:04 PM | Show all posts
ade soalan lain?
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Post time 19-4-2012 01:12 PM | Show all posts
kemon2...teori kasar aku da bagi, fakta sokongan pun da bagi.

skrg gua nk kritikan.

jaga bahasa, jaga tatasusila. kalau tak aku layan korang mcm najis. (mcm aku layan unekspekturd ni)
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Post time 19-4-2012 01:19 PM | Show all posts
Reply 1352# thessailly


Alamakkk...

Banyak tul kecenderungan bro kat berita sensasi tak berasas ni...

Yang peta atas batu 120 juta tahun tu...batu yang 120 juta tahun, petanya entah buat selasa lepas, lepas buletin utama tv3...mana nak tau. Selidik mendalam sket.

Yang site banyak memacam OOP barang tu banyak jumpa time manusia, pastu sama teori dengan London Hammer..

Yang pasal half man, half horse tu...adusss tgk sket dari mana datang sumber dia. Website dia pun dah nyata kafir dan tahyul, percaya pada tarot card, occult memacam.

Beginilah.. ONCE AND FOR ALL.. jin mmg makhluk ghaib (disebut dalam Quran, jangan sangkal) dan TIDAK PERNAH disebut TIDAK GHAIB (kecuali insiden tertentu yang disebutkan, refer dalam thread sesebelum ini) dan tidak pernah kata menghuni bumi secara am, BUMI SEPERTI YANG KITA KETAHUI (pokok, binatang, cro-magnon, etc). Kalau iapun alam ghaib itu sebahagian dari bumi, camne nak nampak sebab ghaib. Ghaib = tersembunyi. Translation djinn pula mengikut bahasa Arab = 'to hide' or 'be hidden'...haaa. Tak pernah jua mana-mana hadis/ayat mengatakan jin skrg ghaib, dulu sebelum adam tidak. Yang disebutkan: Binatang terbang, menjalar, pokok2, etc.

Dan sekarang telah banyak bercampur baur teori evolusi Darwin dengan penciptaan manusia dalam Islam. Makanya... kalo Islam kita terima apa yang telah disampaikan. Begitu juga percaya jin duduk di alam ghaib.

Jangan terlalu percaya dengan carbon dating bagai, kerana orang taksub teori Darwin sibuk nak mencari tamadun Awal manusia. Kalau Allah dah firman Adam manusia selengkapnya yang pertama, buat apa toleh kepada ketaksuban teori Darwin?

Bagi saya belum ada perjumpaan benda `ajaib' arkeologi yang tidak boleh dibuktikan dengan sains, ataupun ianya sememangnya karut-marut. Yang penting research dan kaji, dan bukan terima atau buat andaian tanpa siasat.

Wallahu'alam.
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