Penyanyi wanita ''jerit-jerit' terbaik

Body_language

Kalo korang nak dengo Chest Tone sampai octave ke 6, blh dengo lagu Vanessa Amorosi. Rasenya, Flying_bee dah kasik dulu lagu dier nie.

puteri-jelmaan

Originally posted by sayangidaku at 6-3-2006 06:26 PM
sesapa tau note yg nora hit masa nyanyi lagu-'hanya satu' masa live AJL dlu? impressive gak.

aku tk sure..tp mmg masa tu..best sgt dia bwk

Rivendella

erm...jerit2x nie dah boring dah...kalau kadang2x dengar ok gak..JAC plak asyik nyanyi GEMILANG jer...tapi memang si JAC nie memang penyanyi wanita 'jerit2x' terbaik skrang nie...:D

pasal note2x nie saya tak reti plak...tapi saya prefer penyanyi yang pandai men'cantik'kan lagu...macam SITI..lagu yang tak best jadi best...contohnya time Konsert Untukmu Sudir..memang best gila..dan satu lagi lagu Hapuskan Airmatamu...tersentuh bila dengar...

calmille

aku ada byk video siti, aku sedia sumbangkan video siti utk dikaji oleh korg..aku x pakar bidang2 nehh so klau nak video pape, bgtau jer

IrvingLorenzo

Originally posted by Body_language at 6-3-2006 07:36 AM
Celine nyanyi live lagu All By Myself kat Australia suatu masa dulu C6, tp zaman tu dia muda lagi la. masa tu aku termasuk kat satu website tanpa sengaja.

mmgla dia bleh capai C6. skang pun dia bleh capai C6. tapi in FALSETTO. anyway website yg ko masuk tu reliable ke? just asking.

nanti aku bg dua contoh C6 Celine, which are falsettos.

IrvingLorenzo

Originally posted by Body_language at 6-3-2006 11:58 AM
no. it's not impossible to reach C6 dlm chest tone. even regine pon penah buat sekali. Dan, memang x ramai yg blh hit C6 dlm chest tone. majoriti pon hanya blh capai dlm C5 - G5.

P/S: Dlm Emancipation Of Mimi, key plg tinggi ialah D#7, bukan F#7. Dan, rasenya lagu Mine Again tue rendah jer. Plg tinggi pon dlm lagu I Wish You Knew dgn Fly like A Bird.

mmg xdepun sgt. and regine?? forget abt her, regine tu guna mix voice that is chest voice+head voice. it's impossible. aku dah byk kali tanya kt website muse's muse songwriting message board bhgn everyday selfcare for songwriters, leanne hoad's singing studio website DAN vocalist.org.uk. and the ppl kt sana bukan sebarangan org. mmg the limit of the CHEST VOICE is a B5. it's impossible for the corresponding 33 centimeters of the C6 to vibrate around the STERNUM area of the CHEST CAVITY. B5 tu pun dah sakit nak guna CHEST VOICE.

yg aku penah dgr guna dan byk kali dibincangkan kt forum2 tu, diorg kata MARIAH penah capai C6 guna MIX VOICE (HEAD VOICE+CHEST VOICE) dlm lagu LOVERBOY bhgn nak habis2 tu bila dia cam "jerit" "I-I Enjoy!" dan Aretha Franklin penah capai C6 guna MIX VOICE gak, tak silap lagu Somewhere Over The Rainbow.

jap, note paling tinggi is a D#7 in TEOM?? lagu apa tu?? kalo FLAB, she doesn't even reach a C7 and lagu I Wish U Knew, she hits a C7 sekejapje. setahu aku, dgn keadaan Mariah skang, the highest she can do live is a C7. x penah lebih tinggi.
tapi for lagu Mine Again, it's an exception. tak taula how she did it tapi yg pasti it's her voice. cuba ko dgr bhgn akhir lagu tu.3.47 minutes into the song dia sebut perkataan "Miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine" in G6 sampai habis tapi kalo ko PASANG SPEAKER audio ko KUAT2, 3.57 minutes bila lagu tu dah nak habis Mariah ada keluarkan bunyi mcm Kicauan burung atau lebih tepat whistle jenis flageolet canary. that very high note is an F#7. x caya cuba dgr Mine Again part yg aku describe.

[ Last edited by IrvingLorenzo at 7-3-2006 03:55 PM ]

refleCtion

nama NORA takde dalam list????

IrvingLorenzo

Originally posted by Body_language at 6-3-2006 06:02 PM
Post yg tu utk jawab pasal "Chest tone cuma plg tinggi B5". CT memang blh capai C6 dlm chest tone. Malah, CT antara penyanyi yg senang nak hit mana2  key dlm octave ke 5. Dah la tu, jgnla pertikaikan lbh2 range vokal CT nie. ape2 pon, aku langsung x minat kat dia. tone suara dier x menarik hati aku langsung.

ko penah dgr tak B5 in chest voice?? CT senang nak capai semua note dlm octave ke 5??
ko tau tak an F5, G5, A5 and B5 in CHEST VOICE sgt susah dan seksa kalo x reti. bukan ramai yg bleh buat. and ko penah dgr tak kekuatan note2 tersebut bila nyanyi live in CHEST VOICE??

ini contoh B5 in PURE CHEST VOICE. cuba ko dgr how high and how it ALMOST sounds like SCREAMING (but with control, that is). CT penah ke buat camnie? B5 tu part PATTI LABELLE belt/"menjerit" tinggi time Missy Elliott memperkenalkan dia dan dia muncul atas pentas. She starts from a G5 and ascends at the end with a B5:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=g0Oc4uTK12Q

here's another note in CHEST VOICE tapi its a G5. 2 note bawah B5 je. THIS ONE also almost sounds like SCREAMING but with control. ni part JESSICA SIMPSON/CYNDI LAUPER belts really high part klimaks lagu nie for almost 12 seconds sampai habis lagu tu, siap penuh dgn vibrato. cuba perhatikan how LOUD and POWERFUL chest voice is:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=wMJAKYUMu50

and CT penahla buat camnie?

[ Last edited by IrvingLorenzo at 7-3-2006 04:54 PM ]

IrvingLorenzo

ni lagi satu contoh CHEST VOICE bila digunakan utk note tinggi. this is an F5 x silap (yg pasti its a note below a G5 sama ada F5/E5). Cuba perhatikan time Cyndi Lauper belt perkataan "Cry" bhgn akhir tu yg dia sustain lama. Cuba perhatikan how she puts her hand on her chest and how her voice mcm ada "unsur2 menjerit":
http://youtube.com/watch?v=QznSn8v_YsM

IrvingLorenzo

Originally posted by Body_language at 6-3-2006 07:19 PM
ala idolfan, just take it or leave it. Memang note dier C6, tp memang bkn falsetto sbb CT pon suke nyanyi gune Chest tone

aku rasa CT byk menggunakan HEAD VOICE. its pretty easy nk capai notes in the octave ke-5 menggunakan HEAD VOICE.

Body_language

Ok Irving, x yah gadoh2 ok. Kalo C6 tu mix, blh jd la. sbb tinga manusia kan. ader artis yg gune chest tone+head tone tp nampak mcm chest tone. aku ni pon bkn rajin nak kaji mendalam sgt. tp, Kalo B5 tue, aku positif yg Patti and Vanessa Amorosi memang blh hit. Vanessa cuba try dengo lagu I Wana Be Your Everything. Kalo A5 plak, Barbra Streisand. Walaupon hanya dlm studio, tp jgn ingat masa tu studio tu canggih. Lara Fabian pon antara yg selalu hit G5 masa live. Yg regine tu aku malas nak dengo. tp fan2 dier kata G5 ke atas. aku percaya jer la. Tp, aku penah dengo dier nyanyi lagu A Piece Of Sky live, Part tinggi yg last 19s tue, dia kerat 3 kali. sedih jer aku dengo. Barbra habiskan dlm satu nafas jer.

P/S: peminat CT rajin, tepekla lagu oda bumi ambia dgn lembara cinta syahdu versi live. dua lagu nie ada note CTplg tinggi

IrvingLorenzo

Originally posted by Body_language at 6-3-2006 10:40 PM
Kalo korang nak dengo Chest Tone sampai octave ke 6, blh dengo lagu Vanessa Amorosi. Rasenya, Flying_bee dah kasik dulu lagu dier nie.

Vanessa Amorosi x boleh capai apa2 note dlm octave ke 6 menggunakan CHEST VOICE. its impossible like i said sblm nie. once a person hits C6, they use FALSETTO atau MIX VOICE (atau HEAD VOICE x silap aku). when a human hits a D6, dia menggunakan SUPER-HEAD VOICE, an extension of the head voice. bila manusia capai E6 plak, they either still use the super-head voice or start using the WHISTLE REGISTER.
kalo x tau, the 6th octave adalah permulaan the WHISTLE REGISTER. the vocal folds cuma mempunyai sedikit ruang utk VIBRATE and thus produces "bunyi cam whistle". mustahil utk guna chest voice in the 6th octave x kisahla C6 ke D6 ke pape 6 ke...

Vanessa Amorosi's highest note is an E6 in super-head voice and whistle register. manakala her highest note in chest voice is a G5 in lagu I Wanna Be Your Everything drpd album The Power part nak habis lagu tu. She has also sung A5s dan mungkin B5s live in chest voice.

sayangidaku

eh ok apa gado2 psl mende ni. best baca, even aku tak fhm pon note2 muzik yg korang ckp tu! hahaha... :lol
okla gado(or debating) psl mende ni... dpd debate mende2 bodo mcm sapa lg cntik la, sapa lg ensem la, sapa plg kampung la...etc...

IrvingLorenzo

Originally posted by Body_language at 7-3-2006 05:04 PM
Ok Irving, x yah gadoh2 ok. Kalo C6 tu mix, blh jd la. sbb tinga manusia kan. ader artis yg gune chest tone+head tone tp nampak mcm chest tone. aku ni pon bkn rajin nak kaji mendalam sgt. tp, Kalo B5 tue, aku positif yg Patti and Vanessa Amorosi memang blh hit. Vanessa cuba try dengo lagu I Wana Be Your Everything. Kalo A5 plak, Barbra Streisand. Walaupon hanya dlm studio, tp jgn ingat masa tu studio tu canggih. Lara Fabian pon antara yg selalu hit G5 masa live. Yg regine tu aku malas nak dengo. tp fan2 dier kata G5 ke atas. aku percaya jer la. Tp, aku penah dengo dier nyanyi lagu A Piece Of Sky live, Part tinggi yg last 19s tue, dia kerat 3 kali. sedih jer aku dengo. Barbra habiskan dlm satu nafas jer.

P/S: peminat CT rajin, tepekla lagu oda bumi ambia dgn lembara cinta syahdu versi live. dua lagu nie ada note CTplg tinggi  

taklah..aku xnk gaduhpun:bgrin:. cuma aku "agak pasti" sbb aku dah byk kali dgr how chest voice sounds like. cuma nk bagitau the real facts. aku pun slalu gak tanya2 kt forum omputih psl vocals dan yg berkaitan dgnnya. siap org slalu bg contoh kt aku siap demonstration lagi.

and yes patti labelle, vanessa amorosi, lara fabian dan regine velasquez semua mmg bleh nyanyi guna G5 ke atas x kesah secara live atau studio menggunakan chest voice. aku ada clip vanessa capai G5 in chest voice tu. nanti aku post. tapi yg pastinya Regine x bleh capai a C6 guna chest voice sepenuhnya. dah mmg limit manusia. a C6 in falsetto, head voice atau mix voice MUNGKIN for regine.
tapi yg aku tau peminat2 filipina regine, mmg "belagak" gila psl kebolehan regine. aku tak suka sgt. bukan main bangga gila regine tu whistle register singerla, best singer la...pape jela.
kalo penyanyi filipina aku cuma suka Nina Girado. and Rachelle Ann Go skit2 tapi dia tu tak original sgt. slalu nyanyi karya org bila perform live.

okla nanti aku nak tanya calmille psl lagu2 tu. bleh kita discuss. tapi bagus jugakla discuss benda2 "educational"/berilmu camnie kat forum nie...not many talk abt this stuff.

[ Last edited by IrvingLorenzo at 7-3-2006 06:53 PM ]

idolfan

Originally posted by sayangidaku at 7-3-2006 05:17 PM
eh ok apa gado2 psl mende ni. best baca, even aku tak fhm pon note2 muzik yg korang ckp tu! hahaha... :lol
okla gado(or debating) psl mende ni... dpd debate mende2 bodo mcm sapa lg cntik la, sapa  ...

yah..betul tu..hehehe

sayangidaku

so sapa bley tlg citer psl vokal ning & syafinaz lak.
both sing in soprano style.
tp jgn citer psl vokal ning skang la, sbb jelas tk sebaik dlu.
tp masa kemuncak vokal dia masih ok lg. aku rasa dari 1st n 2nd album dia.

IrvingLorenzo

nah aku bagi B5 in chest voice kalo sesapa nk dgr...saja2 je xde kerja:
It Only Took A Minute - Rachelle Ferrell

K.I.T. - MISIA

eh sayangidaku ko ada x songs yg menunjukkan keupayaan ning and syafinaz?? how bout whistling drpd syafinaz?? bleh bg aku x?

oh yeah, lagi satu, vanessa amorosi's G5 in chest voice. mula2 dia capai G5 dgn chest voice dr 1 saat pastu saat ke 4 she hits a D6 in super-head voice. cuba dgr betul2 the sound of chest voice bila real high. and pertukaran bunyi bila dia switch dari G5 chest voice ke D6 superhead voice (ala2 whistle voice). pasang kuat2la kalo nk dgr dgn jelas..

I Wanna Be Your Everything - Vanessa Amorosi

aku rasa vanessa nie one of the most amazing " high chest voice" singers yg aku penah dgr.meremang bila dgr suara dia tinggi2.

[ Last edited by IrvingLorenzo at 7-3-2006 06:52 PM ]

Body_language

Ala, aku tengok org filipina ni memang suke beno nyanyi lagu org. Nak2 lagu yg susah. Kalo tengok kat forum yg byk org filipina masuk, berlambak jer penyanyi dier nyanyi lagu org. Si Regine tu asik2 lagu Barbra Streisand. Tp x power pon. Peminat dier yg pekak badak bkn main puji :puke::puke::puke:

Irving, Ko rase key Barbra dlm A Piece Of Sky brape yerk? yg aku pasti, ia lbh F5

Body_language

Originally posted by calmille at 7-3-2006 03:59 AM
aku ada byk video siti, aku sedia sumbangkan video siti utk dikaji oleh korg..aku x pakar bidang2 nehh so klau nak video pape, bgt ...

ko ader tak video Oda Bumi Ambia dgn lembara cinta syahdu, blh Irving tolong kire nanti

IrvingLorenzo

Originally posted by Body_language at 7-3-2006 07:37 PM
Ala, aku tengok org filipina ni memang suke beno nyanyi lagu org. Nak2 lagu yg susah. Kalo tengok kat forum yg byk org filipina masuk, berlambak jer penyanyi dier nyanyi lagu org. Si Regine tu asik2 lagu Barbra Streisand. Tp x power pon. Peminat dier yg pekak badak bkn main puji

Irving, Ko rase key Barbra dlm A Piece Of Sky brape yerk? yg aku pasti, ia lbh F5

tula...mmg proud gila la. tapi asyik2 nyanyi lagu omputih. lagu aerosmith la, mariah la, celine la. tgk kat youtube tu byk sgt lagu omputih.

eh barbra streisand vocal range besar eh? dia bleh nyanyi tinggi2 ek?? sbb aku x penah suara dia betul2 sbb x minat. suara dia cam jenis yg perlahan, dreamy je. very light and smooth kan? tapi org kata barbra pandai menusuk kalbu org la bila nyanyi.she touches ppl's heart and convey's the msg walaupun x secabar mariah, celine, whitney. ko bagila aku lagu Piece of Sky tu?? nak dgr gak kehebatan barbra nie..