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[SBS]~ Six Flying Dragons~ Yoo Ah In, Shin Se Kyung, Kim Myung Min (Part 2)

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 Author| Post time 17-12-2015 07:20 AM | Show all posts
nohas replied at 16-12-2015 06:24 PM
dah back to school....
dah nk exam ni....

ayu masih lum lg jawab soalan or buat assignment...
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 Author| Post time 17-12-2015 07:22 AM | Show all posts
nohas replied at 16-12-2015 09:46 PM
dah mati rupanya orang tua tu..

aah ler tk sangka rupanya LIG dh mati rupanya..

ermm so mmg benarkah dia yg bg lirik lagu tu??
or ada org lain..
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 Author| Post time 17-12-2015 07:23 AM | Show all posts
santubung replied at 16-12-2015 10:04 PM
Muncul watak baru
Musuh sam bong yg akan naikkan BW jadi raja
Mesti dia yg hasut BW sampai BW bunu ...

amboi....tinggi benar speku san yer...
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 Author| Post time 17-12-2015 07:24 AM | Show all posts

Ha Ryun[size=0.875em]From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


This is a Korean name; the family name is Ha.
Ha Ryun
Hangul[size=14.168px]하륜
Hanja[size=14.168px]河崙
Pen name
Hangul[size=14.168px]호정
Hanja[size=14.168px]浩亭
Revised RomanizationHojeong
McCune–ReischauerHojŏng
Hangul[size=14.168px]대림, 중림
Hanja[size=14.168px]大臨, 仲臨
Revised RomanizationDaerim, Jungrim
McCune–ReischauerDaerim, Chungrim
[size=12.3704px]
A commemoration plaque for Ha Ryun at Jinju Castlel, where he was born



Ha Ryun (December 22, 1347 – November 6, 1416), also spelled Ha Yun, was a Joseon Dynasty politician and Neo-Confucian scholar, educator, and writer.He served as Prime Minister or Chief State Councillor during the reign of King Taejong from 1408 to 1409 , from 1409 to 1412 and again from 1414-1415.



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 Author| Post time 17-12-2015 07:25 AM | Show all posts
nohas replied at 17-12-2015 01:28 AM
dari soompi forum..

                        * Ha Ryun (하륜 河崙, 1347~1416)

mmg wujud Ha Ryun ni dlm sejarah Joseon Dynasty....
ermmm...nampaknya cite ni sampai BW naik takhta le yer..
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 Author| Post time 17-12-2015 07:29 AM | Show all posts



mmg Gen Lee Seong Gye hebat memanah..
@nohas masih ingat dlm TGS....Gen Lee memanah
dari jarak jauh....
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 Author| Post time 17-12-2015 07:33 AM | Show all posts
Six Flying Dragons - Ep. 21~22
The historical background to help understand Ep. 21~22

* Yi Seong-Gye’s character in the history
Was his character really that good as depicted in the drama? Yes, it was. Although Yi Seong-Gye’s reputation had been gradually derogated in the bloody process of Joseon’s establishment, he was known as a great warrior with a great personality at least in the beginning.
He was an invincible warrior in the bone. He has never been defeated in any battle. He became a national hero of Goryeo by protecting people from various foreign invasions. In spite of such a great military success, he was so humble, honest, and virtuous. He was a devout Buddhist to dislike taking lives unnecessarily. He loved his wives and children. General Choi Young trusted him, and common people loved him.  
However, he was regarded as an outsider and a country bumpkin by the central nobles. He had reputation and military power, but he didn’t have any political brain or connections. That’s why Jung Do-Jeon had an eye on him.
The SFD writers interpreted his humbleness and integrity as a kind of obsession that he should expiate betrayal of his sworn brother Jo So Saeng. Of course, it is a fictional device. In the real history, Jo So-Saeng was not his sworn brother. Most of all, he was not killed in the battle. (ep 1)
* Was his coup accidental? or premeditated?

When they first met in Hamaju (1383), Jung Do-Jeon told Yi Seong-Gye “You can do anything with these seasoned troops.” “What do you mean by that?” “Oh, never mind. I mean you can defeat Japanese pirates.” After the meeting,  they became the best friends, and about 5 years later, Yi Seong-Gye’s retreat from Wihwa Island (1388) happened.
Did Yi Seong-Gye’s party have any previous plan to take over the government? Well, it could be true. Maybe they had an ambiguous agreement for a dynastic revolution. But they never planned to stage a coup in that way. The retreat in 1388 was accidental.
If it was premeditated, Yi Seong-Gye didn’t have to suggest 4 reasons why they should not go to the expedition. According to the official history, when his opinion was dismissed by Choi Young, he came out of the king’s camp and began to shed tears, saying “The calamity of the people is coming.”
Most of all, the Liadong expedition was supposed to be led by General Choi Young himself in the beginning. Yi Seong-Gye couldn’t plan the coup like that in the situation. Choi Young changed his mind at the last minute because King U desperately asked him not to leave him alone.  The last minute decision changed the history after all.





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 Author| Post time 17-12-2015 07:34 AM | Show all posts
Six Flying Dragons - Ep. 21~22
The historical background to help understand Ep. 21~22





* The Seige of Gaegyung (June, 1388)

Timeline (Lunar calendar, 1388)
May 22. Yi Seong-Gye and Jo Min-Soo started to retreat from Wihwa island.
May 24. King U and General Choi Young were in Seongju and heard of the retreat. Yi Bang-Woo and Yi Bang-Gwa escaped the king’s camp and moved to his father.
May 25. King U and Choi Young started to move South.
May 26. King U and Choi Young arrived at Seogyung (Today’s Pyongyang).
May 29. King U and Choi Young arrived at Gaegyung (the capital). They tried to take General Yi’s family hostage, but any actions couldn’t be taken because Yi Bang-Won smelled a rat and already evacuated them to Hamju.
June 1. The expeditionary forces built their bases outside of Gaegyung castle. Jo Min-Soo (The left army) stationed outside of the Seonuimun (the west gate), and Yi Seong-Gye (the Right army) outside of the Sunginmun (the east gate).
June 2. King U tried to appease them but failed. Additional 1,000 soldiers came to help Yi Seong-Gye from the northeastern region. Choi Young barricaded streets with wagons from all over the capital.


June 3.
  • Choi Young’s army launched street battles against the two generals.
  • Despite breaking through the west gate, Jo Min-Soo’s Left army was defeated by Choi Young.
  • Around the same time, Yi Seong-Gye’s Right army broke through the east gate, and marched down the street in great state.
  • Frightened at the sight, Ahn So (Choi Young’s subordinate) gave upMountain Namsan and fled away. Yi Seong-Gye’s army occupied the mountain near the palace. It led to Choi Young’s withdrawal.
  • When Choi Young went to meet the king in the palace garden, the Left and Right armies surrounded the palace.
  • Yi Seong-Gye ordered to blow big trumpet shells which was the unique emblem of his private armies. All Gaegyung citizens recognized the sound and found out General Yi’s coming.
  • The final defense line has been broken. Choi Young made a deep bow to the king twice, and went out of the gate to meet Yi Seong-Gye in person.
  • Yi Seong-Gye burst into tears, saying “I never meant to do this. It couldn’t be helped because the nation’s safety was not stabilized and the people’s resentment was soaring to the sky. Good bye, General.”
  • Choi Young replied “Now I know what Yi In-Im told me was true. ” (* Yi In-Im (Yi In-Gyeom) had told him not to trust Yi Seong-Gye because he thought Yi Seong-Gye had an ambition to be a king, but General Choi had ignored it.)
  • General Choi was sent into exile and executed.
  • King U sent about 80 armed eunuchs to Yi Seong-Gye’s house, but they failed to assassinate him because he was not in his house but in his military camp.
  • King U was deposed.



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 Author| Post time 17-12-2015 07:36 AM | Show all posts
Six Flying Dragons - Ep. 21~22
The historical background to help understand Ep. 21~22





* Yi Bang-Won’s whereabout during the battle

After evacuating General Yi’s family to Hamju, he ran to his father to persuade him to start a revolution. His secret action in the capital to make Choi Young’s army powerless (ep. 22) was a fiction.






* General Jo Min-Soo’s choice

During the Liaodong expedition, Yi Seong-Gye was in charge of the Right army (우군도통사, 右軍都統使) and Jo Min-Soo was leading the Left Army (좌군도통사, 左軍都統使). In the historical records, when a rumor was spreading that Yi Seong-Gye would go back to his Northeast region, Jo Min-Soo was surprised and came to stop him, but Yi Seong-Gye persuaded him to join his retreat.

They agreed on ousting General Choi Young and deposing King U. We don’t know who suggested it first, but they had to do it in order to get away from being a traitor.
Before coming back to the capital, the two generals promised to enthrone one of Goryeo’s royalty. In the drama, the man was Prince Jeongchang (정창군, 定昌君, 1345~1394), the descendent of Goryeo’s 20th King.

However, after the coup was finished, Jo Min-Soo betrayed Yi Seong-Gye. He joined hands with Yi Saek (이색 李穡 1328~1396), the grand master of all Confucian scholars in Goryeo, and brought the deposed king’s son to the throne. (* King Chang, 昌王, 1380~1389) The 8-year-old crown prince was born from a distant relative of Yi In-Im (Yi In-Gyeom).  



* A children’s song to frame : 십팔자위왕(十八子爲王)

Sipalja (십팔자, 十八子, Eighteen children) will become a king.” It had been a prevailing prophecy during Goryeo period.
“Sipalja” can be interpreted as “Yi” in Hanja (Chinese characters). It is the same case as “Mokja (木子, wooden child) will become a king.” which I already posted before.
http://bodashiri.tumblr.com/post/134439528251/six-flying-dragons-ep-17-18

  • Sip (十, ten) + Pal (八, eight) + Ja (子, child) = Yi (李)
  • Mok (木, wood) + Ja (子, child) = Yi (李)

Believing in this prophecy, a few politicians whose sir name was “Yi” attempted to usurp the throne and all of them ended in failure : Yi Ja-Gyeom (이자겸 李資謙, ?~1126), Yi Ui-Bang (이의방 李義方, ?~1174), and Yi Ui-min (이의민 李義旼, ?~1196).

Wikipedia
Yi Ja-Gyeom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Ja-kyum
Yi Ui-Bang https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yi_Ui-bang
Yi Ui-min  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yi_Ui-min
Eventually, this prophecy proved to be correct by Yi Seong-Gye’s founding of the Joseon dynasty in 1392.


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 Author| Post time 17-12-2015 07:37 AM | Show all posts
Six Flying Dragons - Ep. 21~22
The historical background to help understand Ep. 21~22





* Ha Ryun (하륜 河崙, 1347~1416)

He is a really important historical figure. To put it simply, Ha Ryun is…
  • The husband of Yi In-Gyeom’s niece
  • Poeun Jung Mong-Joo’s ally
  • Yi Bang-Won’s future right-hand man
  • Sambong Jung Do-Jeon’s archenemy
As Yi Seong-Gye keeps Jung Do-Jeon by his side, Yi Bang-Won will keep him as his best strategist. He is so-called “Kingmaker”.







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 Author| Post time 17-12-2015 07:38 AM | Show all posts
SFD’s highest rating moments


The highest rating moment in each episode.

Ep. 01 - (?)
(No article)

Ep. 02 - 18.3%
When Jung Do-Jeon and his supporters were singing “Mu-Yi-Yi-Ya (Is there any difference?)” song together under the bloody suppression at Jangpyeong gate.

Ep. 03 - (?)
When little Yi Bang-Won was shouting to Hong In-Bang “Goodness accepts even the evil, but justice never accepts the evil and will punish it!”

Ep. 04 - 17.3%
When grown-up Bang-Won runs into Tang-Sae who just killed Minister Baek Yoon.

Ep. 05 - (?)
(No article)

Ep. 06 - 21.08%
When Bang-Won decided to look for Boon-Yi after meeting Hong In-Bang at Biguksa temple.

Ep. 07 - 16.1%
The breathtaking psychological warfare between the top 2 information vendors in the capital ; Cho-Young of Hwasadan vs. Jeok-Ryong of Biguksa temple.

Ep. 08 -  18.95%
When Jung Do-Jeon reaffirmed his resolve to start the revolution, comforting the victimized soul of his dead colleague Eun-Chang on the cliff.

Ep. 09 - 17.6%
When Jung Do-Jeon advised Hong In-Bang about how to negotiate with General Choi Young if they want to join forces with General Yi Seong-Gye

Ep. 10 - 17.6%
When Jung Do-Jeon recalled his past that he found the innocent kids all dead in the cave and cried out.

Ep. 11 - 17.2%
When Dodang ministers were all shocked at the unexpected content of the letter, only Hong In-Bang and Jung Mong-Joo saw through Sambong’s design from it. After defeating Hobaldo, Yi Seong-Gye silently declared a war against Yi In-Gyeom.

Ep 12 - 20.4%
When the whole truth came out and Jung Do-Jeon accepted Yi Bang-Won as his pupil, saying “That you are still young. That you still have a chance. That’s what I decided to bet on you.”

Ep 13 ~ 14 (consecutive broadcasting) - 17.5%
When Tang-Sae hid himself in Hawadan while being chased by Biguksa monks,  and from there he found out Jailsaek, the legendary spy of Hawadan, is none other than Yeon-Hee.

Ep 15 - 19%
When Jung Do-Jeon and Yi Seong-Gye set up a secret operation with Jung Mong-Joo to impeach Hong In-Bang

Ep 16 - 17%
When Yi Bang-Won succeeded to collect the whole Haedong Gapjok’s signatures for the petition to impeach Dodang trio and returned triumphantly, saying “Hong In-Bang, it will be the final morning to you.”

Ep 17 - 18.3%
The ending scene to tease the fierce sword fight between “The Viper” Yi Bang-Ji and “The best swordsman of Three Hans” Gil Tae-Mi.

Ep 18 - 16.7%
The final discussion between Hong In-Bang and Jung Do-Jeon just before the public execution. Jung Do-Jeon realizes once again from Hong In-Bang’s remarks that there is no hope in Goryeo.

Ep 19~20 - (?)
(No article)

Ep 21 - 19.1%
The ending scene where Yi Seong-Gye read Bang-Won’s letter and made a resolution to win the upcoming battle in front of his family.

Ep 22 - 18.2%
When the identity of the man who spread the old prophecy to make Yi Seong-Gye a public enemy has been revealed at last.


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Post time 17-12-2015 09:13 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Arrrghhhh sudaaa...ha ryun pulak....
Kira ok la yg jahat2 dok mati jugk...kalu jahat tak mati lagi sakit hati tgk..biar jahat baru muncul baru cabarn bt geng2 LSG ni kan.....
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Post time 17-12-2015 09:19 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
@santubung betoi la is pun pk apa yg ko cakap tu.....

Kira logik la cite ni kot mana pun hebat nya SB ni mesti skali skala tergecek jatuh jugk...pastu plan depa ada yg tak menjadi....

Semlam seriau tgk si PO EUN tu nampk mcm was2 dgn LSG tp akirnya dah setuju nk tolong....si panglima Jo lak memg termakn la hasutan2 sekeliling ni....
Moga2 next epi. Si SB dpt detct la ha ryun tu... BW cepat repot kat SB...
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 Author| Post time 17-12-2015 09:20 AM | Show all posts
ismaha replied at 17-12-2015 09:13 AM
Arrrghhhh sudaaa...ha ryun pulak....
Kira ok la yg jahat2 dok mati jugk...kalu jahat tak mati lagi  ...

Is.....selagi tk habis cite ni...selagi tu ler akan ada jer watak baru...Ha Ryun mmg ada dlm sejarah Joseon Dynasty....
jadi sama2 le kita tgk yer....apa peranan dia selain menaikkan
BW sbg King....
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Post time 17-12-2015 09:43 AM | Show all posts
ayushuhada04 replied at 17-12-2015 07:22 AM
aah ler tk sangka rupanya LIG dh mati rupanya..

ermm so mmg benarkah dia yg bg lirik lagu tu??
...

lagu tu lagu lama..sbb sebelum ni ada 3 orang yg bernama 'Yi'
try nak gulingkan King...tapi tak berjaya..
bukan LIG tapi Ha Ryun..suku-sakat LIG jg...
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Post time 17-12-2015 09:59 AM | Show all posts
ayushuhada04 replied at 17-12-2015 07:24 AM
Ha RyunFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

oo..dia ni jd PM masa zaman BW jd King..

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Post time 17-12-2015 10:01 AM | Show all posts
ayushuhada04 replied at 17-12-2015 07:20 AM
ayu masih lum lg jawab soalan or buat assignment...

saya pun belum start lg esainmen..
kumpul bahan dulu..
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 Author| Post time 17-12-2015 10:04 AM | Show all posts
ismaha replied at 17-12-2015 09:19 AM
@santubung betoi la is pun pk apa yg ko cakap tu.....

Kira logik la cite ni kot mana pun heb ...

ermmm....Is yakin ke yg HR tu jahat?
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