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[Politik] 'Tak goyang akidah hanya pandang salib' - Haniza Mohd Talha

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Post time 21-4-2015 01:45 AM | Show all posts
olaoliolu replied at 21-4-2015 01:39 AM
err aku masa kecik2 merayap masuk gereja, berhala semua tara pape pon. jenjalan tengok saja bebudak  ...

ai is feetammmmmmmmm!!!!!!





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Post time 21-4-2015 03:09 AM | Show all posts
dan dan la sume penah masuk church/tengok salib bagai.
hoi kejadah apologetic sangat malay muslim nih.
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Post time 21-4-2015 03:31 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
bluehedgehog replied at 20-4-2015 01:14 PM
bole kita buat kesimpulan, seislam mana melayu pun, nmpk cross, trus hilang akidah, trus terpesong a ...

Iman senipis selaput dara katanya.
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Post time 21-4-2015 07:37 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Nokiaman replied at 21-4-2015 03:36 AM
Akak...bina surau kat tanah kosong manakan sama dgn isu gereja nie..
Gereja ni depa buat tang sho ...

Area tmn medan tu seme org miskin lapar duit..sekolah pun x tinggi
tu sbb diorg bantah bina church

bukan cam korang sekolah tinggi pandai pandai...church offer duit tempat tinggal mkn minum korang jeling je sbb duit byk

Area miskin..semua pun sapu..

jgnla nk salahkn pakcik makcik tu..diorg tahu apa diorg buat

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Post time 21-4-2015 07:40 AM | Show all posts
MelahJanda replied at 21-4-2015 07:37 AM
Area tmn medan tu seme org miskin lapar duit..sekolah pun x tinggi
tu sbb diorg bantah bina churc ...

maksudnya zakat sedang tidur ataupun dh hilang?

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Post time 21-4-2015 07:42 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
bluehedgehog replied at 21-4-2015 07:40 AM
maksudnya zakat sedang tidur ataupun dh hilang?

Tido la gaknya
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Post time 21-4-2015 07:46 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
X sesuai kowt pamer lambang agama kt public area..
Lg pun tu kaw comersial bisnes..
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Post time 21-4-2015 07:47 AM | Show all posts
eLiaD replied at 21-4-2015 07:46 AM
X sesuai kowt pamer lambang agama kt public area..
Lg pun tu kaw comersial bisnes..

kaw perumahan bole x?
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Post time 21-4-2015 07:53 AM | Show all posts
eLiaD replied at 21-4-2015 07:46 AM
X sesuai kowt pamer lambang agama kt public area..
Lg pun tu kaw comersial bisnes..

kalau macam tu kita jadi komunis aja la...
mcm cina...  
depa mmg tak kasi tayang agama terang2an... privately ko nak buat apa pon tak pe...
publicly ko tak boleh tayang agama ko..

malaysia ke arah komunisme  
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Post time 21-4-2015 07:55 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
bluehedgehog replied at 21-4-2015 07:47 AM
kaw perumahan bole x?

Hat tu kne tnya kt ostad dan setazah dlm poremer cari ek....
Hhahaha...
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Post time 21-4-2015 08:04 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
atira replied at 21-4-2015 07:53 AM
kalau macam tu kita jadi komunis aja la...
mcm cina...  
depa mmg tak kasi tayang agama terang ...


Itu Komunis jangan ikut la Atira oii..
depa byk kijam..
Hhahaa
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Post time 21-4-2015 08:08 AM | Show all posts
Sama spesis dengan golongan yang tengok daging babi terus rasa mcm nak makan babi. Harus ditiraikan bagai.
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Post time 21-4-2015 08:12 AM | Show all posts
MelahJanda replied at 21-4-2015 07:37 AM
Area tmn medan tu seme org miskin lapar duit..sekolah pun x tinggi
tu sbb diorg bantah bina churc ...

amboi kak sedap yer tulis org taman medan semua ye miskin lapar duit, saya tinggal di taman medan mak mertua saya, suami, fam in law lama dok taman medan dan lahir pun kat tmn medan, jangan la tulis sesedap rasa jer... akak dah penah turun taman medan ker dah tengok ke taraf kehidupan diaorg tu jangan la menghina org kena kat diri sendiri baru tau
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Post time 21-4-2015 08:26 AM | Show all posts
Nak tutup isu GST ler tuu
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Post time 21-4-2015 08:29 AM | Show all posts
mohon makcik makcik semua rajin pergi bersenam gym workout

supaya akal cerdas

lantas boleh berfikir dengan baik dan positif
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Post time 21-4-2015 08:30 AM | Show all posts
olaoliolu replied at 21-4-2015 01:39 AM
err aku masa kecik2 merayap masuk gereja, berhala semua tara pape pon. jenjalan tengok saja bebudak  ...

baghal nya parents tu...mesti parents melayu la kannnnn
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Post time 21-4-2015 08:31 AM | Show all posts
ctcham replied at 21-4-2015 08:12 AM
amboi kak sedap yer tulis org taman medan semua ye miskin lapar duit, saya tinggal di taman medan  ...

taman medan dgn dato harun dh padat sgt... masalah social pun leh tahan gak kat sana..
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Post time 21-4-2015 08:48 AM | Show all posts
mirage_46 replied at 21-4-2015 08:31 AM
taman medan dgn dato harun dh padat sgt... masalah social pun leh tahan gak kat sana..

yang ni memang betul dgn indon ye lagi
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Post time 21-4-2015 09:12 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
ctcham replied at 21-4-2015 08:12 AM
amboi kak sedap yer tulis org taman medan semua ye miskin lapar duit, saya tinggal di taman medan  ...

Lah
ni lah melayu
suka melenting tak pasal pasal
ngok betul lol

Org ckp isu tu area penempatan tu area yg penempatannya ramai org yg dpt brim..org susah

Dimana dgn kewujudan satu simbol agama lain dgn mudah dpt menggugat akidah. Sbb taraf hidup dan pendidikan. Tabur duit..mudah dibeli..paham. jgnla ngok sgt okay

pernah je duduk tmn medan masa kerja kilang sg way pas spm dedulu ...so?
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Post time 21-4-2015 09:15 AM | Show all posts
Even Batu Caves statues illegal if cross considered propagation to Muslims, lawyers say

http://www.msn.com/en-my/news/na ... yers-say/ar-AAbp5Y4


KUALA LUMPUR, April 21 ― Claiming that an openly-displayed cross was considered proselytizing to Muslims would mean all non-Muslim religious symbols must be banned, said lawyers critical of the Taman Medan church protest.

Constitutional lawyer New Sin Yew said the church in Taman Medan, Petaling Jaya, which was forced to take down a cross from its facade after residents in the Malay-majority area protested on Sunday, has the right to put up the religious symbol as an integral part of their Christian faith.

“It’s absurd to suggest that putting up a cross is a form of propagation to Muslims,” New told Malay Mail Online.

“Houses put up crosses and altars for their religious practice and beliefs. If putting up a cross is a form of propagation, then no one will be allowed to put up any religious symbols anywhere anymore,” the lawyer added.

To illustrate, he said iconic structures such as the Lord Murugan statue at Batu Caves and the statue of Kuan Yin, the Goddess of Mercy in Buddhism, at the Kek Lok Si Temple in Penang that would be prohibited.

Article 11 of the Federal Constitution states that everyone has the right to profess, practise and propagate their faith, but state and federal law may restrict the propagation of other religions to Muslims.

Local daily The Star reported yesterday Taman Medan residents as claiming that the church’s cross challenged Islam and could influence younger minds; the cross was removed several hours after the protest.

Civil liberties lawyer Syahredzan Johan said the legality of the church displaying a cross on its building depends on whether approval was obtained from the Petaling Jaya City Council, but stressed that it cannot amount to propagation of the Christian faith to Muslims.

He said that according to the Selangor Non-Islamic Religions (Control of Propagation Among Muslims) Enactment 1988, propagation offences require more than merely placing a religious symbol.

“There must be the element of persuading, influencing or inciting a Muslim to change faith for it to be an offence under the Selangor enactment,” Syahredzan told Malay Mail Online.

He also denounced as “absurd” the protesters’ claim that the church cannot put up the cross because it is located in a Malay-majority area.

“The rights of minorities cannot be subjected to the whims and fancies of the majority,” said Syahredzan.

“How many Christians must there be in an area for it to be acceptable to place a cross? 10 per cent? 20 per cent? 30 per cent? Any number one comes up with will be arbitrary, and in any event, Christians are a minority everywhere in Malaysia.

“The claim that the cross will influence Muslims has absolutely no basis. It’s quite insulting to Muslims, actually, as if our faith is wafer thin that any exposure to non-Islamic religions will destroy it,” the lawyer added.

Lawyers for Liberty co-founder Eric Paulsen urged authorities to protect minority rights and to uphold the principles of non-discrimination and equality, failing which Malaysia’s democracy would amount to the “tyranny of the majority”.

“Using the [Taman] Medan protesters’ absurd logic, Muslims in Myanmar and Sri Lanka would also have to be subservient to the rights of the majority Buddhists,” Paulsen told Malay Mail Online.

“This is of course wrong and unacceptable as under a democracy, the rights of all citizens must be protected equally irrespective of the numerical strength,” he added.
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