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[Dunia]
Sinai Plane Crash: UPDATE - Black Boxes Point To Bomb On Board #317
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15:32 GMT
The Russian Transport Ministry refuted information the Airbus A321 had been shot down by terrorists as “unreliable.”
“Now, different media report… that a Russian passenger airliner on a flight from Sharm El-Sheikh to St. Petersburg has been allegedly shot down by an anti-aircraft missile fired by terrorists. This information cannot be regarded as reliable,” said Russian Transport Minister Maksim Sokolov.
“We are in close contact with our Egyptian colleagues and aviation authorities. They currently have no information that could confirm such allegations,” he added. |
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My Deepest Condolonces to All Russian Family.... |
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makin menjadi2 pula kemalangan ketebang sejak akhir2 ni..
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si russia ni pun...takkan dia ingat dia boleh senang2 bomb syria dan ingat orang syria tak melawan balik.... |
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16:09
'First images'
Russian news website Lifenews has published images of what it says are the first from the scene of the crash, taken from Egyptian media. In one photo, part of the aircraft is seen blackened, scorched and smouldering on the ground.
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Bodies moved
Egyptian emergency services are transporting the bodies to Cairo by military plane from Kabret military air base, near the Suez Canal.
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16:21
Pictures of the dead start to be released
Pictures are beginning to emerge of the passengers on the plane from Russian media.
This harrowing image shows tragic 38-year-old Iurii Shein. The passenger manifest includes 30-year-old Olga Sheina and Anastasiia Sheina, aged just three.
The relationship between the trio is not yet known.
The pictures features three children and the Russian word for ‘Egypt’ and ‘2015’ written in the sand
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Edited by Acong at 1-11-2015 12:42 AM
UPDATE: CONFIRMED: PLANE SHOT DOWN BY MISSILE WHILE AT CRUISING ALTITUDE
NO MATTER WHAT THE WHITEWASH IS, THEY WILL NEVER WIGGLE OUT OF THIS ONE
Here is why: The plane, which "suddenly fell like a rock" was cruising at 30,000 feet right before it did, AND BODIES WERE FOUND OVER A FIVE KILOMETER RADIUS. Folks, there is only ONE WAY this can happen, and that is if an intelligent missile sought the plane's center of mass, exploded, and threw bodies in all directions from far far up. That is the only way they could possibly be spread out over a five kilometer radius. A bomb in the cargo bay would have to get a lucky shot to do that, and be absolutely HUGE. Not probable. NO MATTER THE WHITE WASH, CASE CLOSED.
Now Egypt's "ISIS" is claiming responsibility. This means Israel or the U.S. did it. Since this happened within missile strike range of Israel, well, what do you think? This plane had only Russians aboard, which virtually assures it was only important people aboard because normal flights have people from more than one country on them. Who would know that before blowing this plane up? Certainly not ISIS, if ISIS was the rag tag band claimed, they would be clueless about what they were shooting at. How would they bag the perfect Russian aircraft, and where did such a missile come from?
Forget the "engine problem" whitewash, it is unrelated and I looked into this, the crew only had problems starting the engines, once running they were fine and did not have a history of blowing people out of the airplane over a 5 KM radius . . . . . . which would be impossible anyway, an engine is not even able to get shrapnel into the passenger cabin, they are tested for that and France built the aircraft.
A Russian Airbus A321 went off radar while over the sinai peninsula 23 minutes after takeoff with 217 Russian passengers and 7 Russian crew. RT has reported the plane had tourists aboard, but in addition to this the plane had only Russians aboard, which strongly indicates this was a very important aircraft flown out of Egypt for a purpose with important people aboard. Most likely they were either important to Russia's government and/or Russian defense or business, this is the only probable way both the passengers and crew were entirely Russian. If the plane was not flown for a specific official purpose, the passengers would have most likely been of mixed origin.
RT has reported that the crew complained of engine problems before takeoff, and that they requested to land in Cairo, HOWEVER, the crash characteristics match a missile strike and not engine problems for the following reason - obvious complete structural failure of the airframe caused the plane to drop like a rock IN FLAMES after it hit cruising altitude at 30,000 feet. A plane cannot just fall out of the sky from 30,000 feet like this one did unless the wings are missing, if this was an engine failure it would have taken this aircraft a half hour to crash from that altitude, with full dialog from the pilots all the way down.
Instead, radar tracked this plane falling like a rock, with no communication from the pilots while it did so, until it vanished from radar at 5,000 feet and fell in the mountains. There are survivors this time, so there will be stories told if any of them make it. This plane crashed in Egypt, which means the Israelis will be hindered in killing survivors to prevent testimony if they did shoot this plane down.
UPDATE: Early rescue teams heard voices in the main wreckage, but are now reporting no survivors. THAT is suspicious. . . . . For now, Russia is playing it cool saying the plane went down due to an engine failure, but this simply does not wash, if it hit 30,000 feet it could have landed in Israel, Egypt, Jordan and possibly other places before it ran out of altitude, or at worst even in the ocean to improve it's chances if it still had it's wings. This one is suspicious to say the least and I would not doubt Israel did this one to settle a Syria grudge and will remain suspicious no matter what the "official story" ends up being. If the black boxes have bad news aboard, this could easily be the spark that does world war 3. If Israel did shoot this plane down, it will be a wrestling match between Israel and Russia for these black boxes, even if via Israeli infiltrators in Egypt's investigation if Egypt does the investigation. The best possible course is for Russia to get there ASAP and handle this one because no one can be trusted to do this type of investigation anymore. If Israel shot this plane down, it would end up being be another "suicide pilot" story if Russia does not handle this correctly.
http://82.221.129.208/ifyouareinamericayouprobablycantseethis8.html
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lobai route tak masuk sini kah |
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utk lobai route...
16:29 Lufthansa, Air France 'avoiding Sinai'
Two major airlines, Lufthansa and Air France, have decided to avoid flying over the Sinai Peninsula until they get a clear explanation of what caused Saturday's crash in the area, Reuters reports.
"We took the decision to avoid the area because the situation and the reasons for the crash were not clear," a Lufthansa spokeswoman is quoted by the news agency as saying.
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Satu lagi kapal terbang jadi mangsa, berita yang mengerikan ditengah2 sambutan Halloween tahun ni. Takziah buat keluarga mangsa. |
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https://www.rt.com/news/320225-plane-crash-russian-egypt/
Russian passenger jet crashes over Sinai LIVE UPDATES
Published time: 31 Oct, 2015 08:40
Edited time: 31 Oct, 2015 11:47
A woman reacts next to Russian Emergencies Ministry members at Pulkovo airport in St. Petersburg, Russia, October 31, 2015 © Peter Kovalev / Reuters
A passenger plane belonging to a small Russian airline, which was flying over 220 people from an Egyptian resort, Sharm El-Sheikh to Saint Petersburg, has crashed over Sinai. Rescue operation is underway.
31 October 2015
16:43 GMT
Russia's emergencies ministry on the way to crash site of #7K9268
16:42 GMT
Egyptian military aircraft are transporting some of the crash victims’ bodies to a base in the east of Cairo. The first 35 bodies have already been taken to the mortuary, RT Arabic reports. So far, the remains of 140 passengers have been retrieved from the crash site.
https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/CSo-f8yVAAAu3z8.mp4
16:30 GMT
German carrier Lufthansa and Air France-KLM have decided to avoid flying over the Sinai peninsula while they wait for clarity on what caused a Russian airliner carrying 224 passengers to crash in the area, spokeswomen for the carriers said on Saturday.
16:20 GMT
The Egyptian General Prosecutor’s office has retrieved the black boxes from the crashed plane. They contain the recordings of the conversations between pilots as well as between pilots and flight operations officers, Egyptian newspaper Al Ahram reports.
16:19 GMT
An overhaul on the Airbus A321 was carried out in 2014. Comprehensive preflight maintenance operations were also completed, Kolavia said.
16:11 GMT
More data from flight #7K9268 shows very big changes in vertical speed last 20 seconds.
http://repo.feed.flightradar24.com/EIETJ.csv
15:51 GMT
15:41 GMT
There is no point in hypothesizing about the cause of the plane crash until there is reliable data on the circumstances, the Russian Air Transport Agency said in a statement.
15:35 GMT
The Interstate Aviation Committee said it had set up a special investigative commission after the Russian plane crash. The commission will fly to the scene of the accident together with representatives from Russia’s Emergency Ministry, according to a Committee statement.
15:32 GMT
The Russian Transport Ministry refuted information the Airbus A321 had been shot down by terrorists as “unreliable.”
“Now, different media report… that a Russian passenger airliner on a flight from Sharm El-Sheikh to St. Petersburg has been allegedly shot down by an anti-aircraft missile fired by terrorists. This information cannot be regarded as reliable,” said Russian Transport Minister Maksim Sokolov.
“We are in close contact with our Egyptian colleagues and aviation authorities. They currently have no information that could confirm such allegations,” he added.
14:58 GMT
British Prime Minister David Cameron has extended his sympathies to the families and friends of the plane crash victims in his Twitter post.
14:46 GMT
14:44 GMT
Egypt’s security forces have disproved reports a diversion could have caused the Airbus A321 crash.
The Egyptian president expressed his deepest condolences to Vladimir Putin in a telephone conversation. The Egyptian leader assured the Russian president his country will give Russia all the necessary assistance in the crash investigation.
14:31 GMT
German Chancellor Angela Merkel has expressed her “sincere condolences” in a telephone conversation with Russian President Vladimir Putin.
14:26 GMT
The Russian Investigative Committee said it was examining fuel samples from the crashed plane’s last refueling stop in the Russian city of Samara.
14:25 GMT
Investigators are carrying out searches in Moscow’s Domodedovo International Airport after the plane crash in Sinai. Russian Investigative Committee spokesman Vladimir Markin also confirmed searches had been made at Kolavia's headquarters.
Another probe into “provision of services that do not meet security requirements” has been launched over the plane crash, Markin added.
13:39 GMT
According to Egypt's security forces, as cited by Reuters, a technical fault was to blame for the crash.
Search and rescue teams are finding bodies in a radius of up to 5km (3.1 miles) from the crash site. Approximately 150, some burnt, have been pulled out of the wreckage so far.
The sources say the aircraft took almost a vertical trajectory as it plummeted down. Large parts of the fuselage burned in the process.
13:34 GMT
Police are currently at Kolavia's headquarters, collecting the necessary documentation to proceed with the investigation.
13:16 GMT
Kolavia believes human error was not behind the Saturday crash, according to RIA Novosti. The plane had been fully serviced and the pilot was an experienced one, with 12,000 hours under his belt.
13:02 GMT
Airbus will offer any and all technical assistance to investigators and aviation authorities, it said in a statement.
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16:26 Picture of the youngest victim
The youngest victim of the crash, 10-month-old Darina Gromovo, can be seen in this devastating picture.
The toddler is seen at an airport, tiny hands placed on the glass as she gazes out over planes on the tarmac.
A total of 17 of the victims are children.
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16:50 Last picture of smiling victims boarding plane at end of holiday
A smiling man holds a sleepy toddler on the steps of a plane at the end of a holiday in sun-kissed Sharm el-Sheik in this poignant final picture.
They are believed to be victims of the horror crash that today killed 224 people, mainly Russian holidaymakers.
The harrowing picture reportedly shows tragic 38-year-old Iurii Shein and his daughter Anastasiia Sheina, aged just three.
It was posted on the VKontake - a Russian social media website similar to Facebook - account of Olga Sheina, who is named as another victim on the plane’s passenger manifest.
According Mashable, she wrote: “Hi Peter (St Petersburg), goodbye Egypt. We’re going home.”
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Innalillah......
Takziah untuk semua mangsa dan individu yang terlibat |
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Russia patut keluar dari Suria dan biarkan pengganas mengambil alih negara itu
semua org puas hati (buat masa ini) |
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