I need some answers, can someone help me?

Wal..Hal

This was sent to my other half by his brother. It really ticked me off for spreading such lies and slander.

He should have read the Quran not hadiths before sending such postings and trying to reconvert JJ..Thank God my other half has strong faith.
How do we know whether all the hadiths are true? They are basically journals written by non prophets. We were not born in that era to confirm all of the events.

As Muslims, we are not suppose to judge, we accept all religion, race, color or creed and after all one of the five pillars of Islam is the belief of the existence of the 4 holy books.

By spreading such messagess, does it make you a good Catholic?

The message contents are sooooooo wrong...

TEACHINGS OF PROPHET MUHAMMAD vs JESUS CHRIST

Please do not skip or take it lightly!

We Christians are living in a majority Muslim country and we, especially our children in the schools,  will be increasingly  confronted with
The teachings of Prophet Muhammad  vs. Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour. We should have some basic understanding   of both teachings so that we could defend and contend for our faith.

I would advise you all to do 2 things:

l. TAKE TIME TO READ AND UNDERSTAND

2. COPY IT AND FILE for future reference.

LET US START READING:

Muhammad said ‘.. Allah hates those who don’t accept Islam..’ (Qur’an 30:4, 3:32, 22:38
Jesus said God loves everyone. (John 3:16)

Muhammad said “I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, and that
Muhammad is the messenger of Allah.” (Muslim 1:33)
Jesus said “He who lives by the sword will die by the sword” (Matthew 26:52)

Muhammad stoned women for adultery. (Sahih Muslim 4206)
Jesus said “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.” (John 8:7)

Muhammad permitted stealing from unbelievers (Bukhan 44:668, Ibn Ishaq 764)
Jesus said “Thou shalt not steal” (Matthew 19:18)

Muhammad permitted lying (Sahih Muslim 6303, Bukhari
49:857)
Jesus said “Thou shalt not bear false
witness.” (Matthew 19:18)

Muhammad owned and traded slaves (Sahih Muslim 3901)
Jesus neither owned nor traded slaves.

Muhammad murdered those who insulted him. (Bukhari
56:369, 4:241)
Jesus preached forgiveness.

Muhammad said “If then anyone transgresses the
prohibition against you, transgress ye likewise against
him.” (Qur’an 2:194)
Jesus said “If someone strikes you on the right cheek,
turn to him the other also.” (Matthew 5:39)

Muhammad said “Jihad in the way of Allah elevates one’s
position in Paradise by a hundred fold.” (Muslim 4645)
Jesus said “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called Sons of God.” (Matthew 5:9)

Muhammad married 13 wives and kept sex slaves. (Bukhari 5:268, Qur’an 33:50).
Jesus was celibate.

Muhammad had sex with a 9 year old child. (Sahih Muslim
3309, Bukhari 58:236)
Jesus never.

Muhammad ordered the murder of women. (Ibn Ishaq 819, 995)
Jesus never harmed a woman.

Muhammad said “O you who believe! Fight those of the
unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you
hardness.” (Qur’an 3:110)
Jesus said “Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the Earth.” (Matthew 5:5)

Muhammad ordered 65 military campaigns and raids in his last 10 years. (Ibn Ishaq)
Jesus ordered no military campaigns, nor offered any
approval of war or violence.

Muhammad killed captives taken in battle. (Ibn Ishaq 451)
Jesus never took captives; never killed anyone.

Muhammad encouraged his men to rape enslaved women.
(Abu Dawud 2150, Qur’an 4:24)
Jesus never encouraged rape; never enslaved women.

Muhammad was never tortured, but tortured others.
(Muslim 4131, Ibn Ishaq 436, 595, 734, 764)
Jesus suffered torture, but never tortured anyone.

Muhammad said “And fight them until there is no more
persecution and religion is only for Allah.” (Qur’an 8:39)
Jesus said “Love your enemies and pray for those who
persecute you.” (Matthew 5:44)

Muhammad ordered a slave to build the very pulpit from which he preached Islam. (Bukhari 47:743)
Jesus washed his disciples feet. (John 13:5)

Muhammad demanded the protection of armed bodyguards,
even in a house of worship. (Qur’an 4:102)
Jesus chastised anyone attempting to defend him with
force. (John 18:10-12)

Muhammad advocated crucifying others. (Qur’an 5:33,
Muslim 16:4131)
Jesus was crucified himself.

According to his followers, Muhammad had others give
their lives for him. (Sahih Muslim 4413)
Jesus gave his life for others. (John 18:11).
Allah sent his followers to die for him.

Wal..Hal

Source fr fb
Is there any hujah to retaliate this back, seems what Christians claim is all correct,please share ur answers and ideas,tqvm

baulu

Wal..Hal replied at 6-2-2017 09:17 AM
Source fr fb
Is there any hujah to retaliate this back, seems what Christians claim is all correct, ...

1. Saya prefer utk cadangkan not to retaliate sebab dari apa yg tuan post ianya bercampur antara sumber al Quran & Hadith.

2. Pertama, kita yg nak retaliate kena ada ilmu tafsir setiap ayat al Quran & syarah setiap hadith.

Tidak betul mengatakan tak boleh pakai sumber dari koleksi hadith kerana melalui hadith lah kebanyakkan ayat2 al Quran ditafsirkan.

3. Al Quran adalah Kalamullah, iaitu kata2 Allah. Tidak bercampur kata2 Rasulullah, apatah lagi kata2 manusia lain.

Kenalah compare apple to apple. Maknanya bawalah kitab Christian yg isi kandungannya bersih dari kata2/ karangan manusia.

Contoh such kitab: kitab itu mestilah tidak menyebut ttg Jesus being crucified. Kerana, mana mungkin ianya sebuah wahyu dari Allah apabila Nabinya sudah mati utk menerima lagi wahyu, tambah2 lagi mampu bercerita ttg peristiwa pensalibannya sendiri. Takkan org mati hidup balik kot?

Jadi, tak fairlah membandingkan Kalamullah dgn buku sejarah/ dokumentasi dari sudut pandang pengarangnya sendiri.

Don't degrade al Quran to such a low level.

4. Al Quran memerlukan penafsiran, tak boleh baca seperti org kristian membaca bible mereka.

Satu, mesti dibaca dalam makna Arabnya & ketahui sebab2 ayat2 diturunkan. "You" dlm terjemahan Quran in English doesn't all the time mean you & me today. Mungkin specific pada org2 tertentu.

Jadi, perbuatan mencari sesuatu ayat melalui index, mmg tak betul.

Sy boleh tengok dr ayat2 Quran yg di quote. Ayat2 al Quran tak boleh dibuat macam tu, boleh sesat barat mcm org kristian buat ni.

Sebab itu org kristian sesat, sebab mereka ambil ayat2 bible ikut suka hati & mentafsir ikut akal mereka sendiri secara literal & nafsu.

Let's not fall into the same category.

5. Cukup setakat ini...... saya hanya bagi sedikit sebanyak asas/ ilmu yg perlu ada utk lawan cara mcm ni.

Sebab agak panjang nk rebut setiap satu ayat.

Bottom line, kita yg tak berapa pandai teguhkan iman kita dgn mempercayai ayat2 al Quran adalah kalam Allah. Pergi join kelas tafsir, then tuan akan boleh tanya soalan2 ni & dpt Jawapan, insya Allah.

6. Ini tactic plg lame org kristian utk cuba pengaruhi org yg belum kuat pengetahuannya dlm tafsir Quran & hadith.

Klu satu dua ayat atau hadith mungkin sy boleh share, cuma sy perlukan masa nk menaip. Ni pun lunch break, bolehlah karang sikit.

baulu

Muhammad encouraged his men to rape enslaved women.
(Abu Dawud 2150, Qur’an 4:24)
Jesus never encouraged rape; never enslaved women.

This one is among the funny ones. Muslim should first check the source. Quote the exact Hadith or ayat Quran. Jauh ke laut beza terjemahan ayat al Quran dgn fitnah yg org kristian cuba hasut. Macam lah org Islam takde acces to Quran translation.

Wal..Hal

Betul ke nabi dah kawin dgn isteri mase umur 9thn, sbb mmg ade hadith yg shahih ttg tu.. so far i hv asked others on this issue mostly blatar belakang agama tp dieorg lari2 dan konar2 jwpn,i just want to know Yes or No thats all

baulu

Wal..Hal replied at 6-2-2017 02:38 PM
Betul ke nabi dah kawin dgn isteri mase umur 9thn, sbb mmg ade hadith yg shahih ttg tu.. so far i hv ...

Bernikah umur 6 thn, bersama 9 thn.

Kadang2 org yg berlatarbelakangkan agama terpaksa jawab pjg lebar sebab fakta ini menjadi bahan utk org2 zaman sekarang memburukkan nabi.

Sedangkan pd zmn nabi tiada org islam, munafik, kafir yg menjadikan kejadian ini sbg modal utk mengeji nabi walaupun mereka antara org yg mahu bunuh nabi kerana Islam. Sebab, pada mereka tiada yg pelik or jelik.

Org skrg saja yg pelik sebab zaman & tradisi manusia berubah.

kucing_2016

baulu replied at 6-2-2017 02:56 PM
Bernikah umur 6 thn, bersama 9 thn.

Kadang2 org yg berlatarbelakangkan agama terpaksa jawab pjg ...

Salam...apa nak pelik? Atuk aku isterinya 4, salah sorang isterinya tu dinikahi masa umurnya agak-agak 9 tahun...dapat anak 8 orang,cucu berpuluh orang,cicit beratus orang...tak de masalah pun,dah pulang ke RAHMATULLAH pun berusia 80thn++, itulah Nenek kesayangan aku.
Ayam umur 3 bulan dah kawin,ada masalah ke?

orangbesi

Wal..Hal replied at 6-2-2017 02:38 PM
Betul ke nabi dah kawin dgn isteri mase umur 9thn, sbb mmg ade hadith yg shahih ttg tu.. so far i hv ...

boleh baca dlm bahasa malaysia
susah nak traslate dlm english - maaf ya

dalam riwayat, Nabi pada suatu masa keluar rumahnya tergesa-gesa
lalu di sapa dan ditanya oleh Abu Bakar, apakah yg menyulitkan Nabi
lalu Nabi mengkhabarkan bermimpi/ditunjukkan dgn seorang perempuan
lalu Nabi huraikan tentang perempuan itu
lantas Abu Bakar terus berkata - itu adalah anak aku (bermaksud aishah)
- dan inilah ketika mana Nabi dikahwinkan dgn Aishah kerana tiada apa2 majlis atau apa2 pun sehingga

pada suatu masa, aishah bermain2 dgn kawan2nya anak patung
lalu di panggil oleh para wanita
lalu didandankan/dihiaskan beliau dan tunggu di dalam kamar

dan dari aishah sendiri: aku sangkakan siapa yg datang, rupanya Rasulullah sendiri
bermaksud dia sendiri tidak tahu siapakah suaminya sehingga suaminya(Nabi) yg datang
tapi dia tahu yg dia dihiaskan utk berkahwin

umur tak sebeitu jelas, ada yg kata 6 tahun ada 9 ada 12
tapi yg jelas di masa itu anak2 perempuan dah dikahwinkan masa umur sebegitu
mungkin ramai yg kata tak sesuai utk masa sekarang

orangbesi

Muhammad said ‘.. Allah hates those who don’t accept Islam..’ (Qur’an 30:4, 3:32, 22:38
Jesus said God loves everyone. (John 3:16)


30 AR RUUM AYAT 2-4
TELAH DIKALAHKAN BANGSA ROMAWI
DI NEGERI YANG TERDEKAT, DAN MEREKA SESUDAH DIKALAHKAN ITU AKAN MENANG
DALAM BEBERAPA TAHUN. BAGI ALLAHLAH URUSAN SEBELUM DAN SESUDAH. DAN DI HARI ITU BERGEMBIRALAH ORANG2 YANG BERIMAN


3 ALI IMRAN AYAT 32
KATAKANLAH: TAATLAH ALLAH DAN RASULNYA DAN JIKA KAMU BERPALING
MAKA SESUNGGUHNYA ALLAH TIDAK MENYUKAI ORANG-ORANG KAFIR


22 AL HAJJ AYAT 38
SESUNGGUHNYA ALLAH MEMBELA ORANG2 YANG BERIMAN
SESUNGGUHNYA ALLAH TIDAK MENYUKAI TIAP2 ORANG YANG KHIANAT LAGI MENGINGKARI NIKMAT


bangsa Romawi beragama Nasrani sering berperang dgn bangsa Persia beragama majusi
maka bila berita ttg kekalahan Romawi itu penduduk mekah gembira kerana sekutu mereka Persia menang
lalu DITURUNKAN AYAT ini
dan jelas sesudah beberapa tahun Romawi menang kembali dlm peperangan


Taatlah Rasul, tapi kaum Nasrani yg membunuh banyak Nabi2 dan cubaan bunuh Jesus!!!
sedangkan golongan kafir, pengkhianat, engkar nikmat - mana2 manusia pun tak suka sebegini

17 AL ISRAA AYAT 20
KEPADA MASING2 DARI DUA GOLONGAN INI (BAIK ATAU TIDAK) KAMI BERIKAN BANTUAN DARI KEMURAHAN TUHANMU
DAN KEMURAHAN TUHANMU TIDAK DAPAT DIHALANGI

monyet_2015

orangbesi replied at 6-2-2017 03:00 PM
boleh baca dlm bahasa malaysia
susah nak traslate dlm english - maaf ya

nabi kahwin dengan aisyah sebab dapat mimpi ker?..
macam tak logik pulak alasannya.
rasa tragis sangat budak masih main anak patung disuruh kawin.
terbayang saiz anak sedara aku yg berumur 7 tahun..rasa tragis..
betul ke dpt mimpi dari Allah suruh kawin dgn kanak kanak  nih?

kucing_2016

Rasa aku yang sesuai menjawab thread ni yg pakai nick 007,nizam,noraddin...mbcf pun boleh juga kot.

Genkidesuka

In the middle ages, girls were married around that age.  

Wal..Hal

No wonder kat UK ramai arab2 pedophile, sbb syaratnye asalkan akil baligh,umur 9thn pun budak pompuan dah ade dtg period, so far ramai i dah forwardkan article kat atas, ramai xleh jawab at the end dieorg tuduh i kapir,i just asking je pun and then they keep pusing2 all the answers but at the end no answers, the same thing dgn issue sembahyang arah kaabah, the non muslim claim dieorg xsembah berhala but the spirit inside which they cannot see thru naked eye same with muslim cannot see Allah swt too, i wont start it over and over again nanti bergaduh malas la

mnm77

Wal..Hal replied at 7-2-2017 09:50 AM
No wonder kat UK ramai arab2 pedophile, sbb syaratnye asalkan akil baligh,umur 9thn pun budak pompua ...

Kat negara barat pun banyak pedophile, cuma kes yang sampai ke pengetahuan kita saja yang tak banyak... rajin-rajin lah buat research...

Ada orang yang anti-Islam, dia cuma nak tengok keburukan Islam saja....

mnm77

Isu Nabi Muhammad S.A.W. berkahwin dengan Aishah R.A. yang pada ketika itu usianya yang muda selalu dijadikan isu untuk memburukkan Islam...

Dalam Islam, syarat untuk berkahwin antaranya dah sampai usia baligh. Kalau ini tak boleh diterima akal oleh golongan tertentu, tiada paksaan pun...

Dan Islam bukannya Agama yang boleh diubah hanya dengan 'akal' golongan tertentu saja....

mnm77

Ok, I'll take some time to answer....but I'll answer one by one, not altogether at one go

l. TAKE TIME TO READ AND UNDERSTAND

2. COPY IT AND FILE for future reference.

Noted with thanks

LET US START READING:

Muhammad said ‘.. Allah hates those who don’t accept Islam..’ (Qur’an 30:4, 3:32, 22:38
Jesus said God loves everyone. (John 3:16)

This is one type of inter-faith discussion. Before I answer, I would like know which one do you believe more? Al-Quran, in the ORIGINAL language of revealation, being translated,
OR
the Bible in the only TRANSLATED version, of so many translated versions (King James, International Version, Living Translation, Revised Standard version of translation....?

Let you answer this question, before we go to the next question...

Regarding:

Muhammad said ‘.. Allah hates those who don’t accept Islam..’ (Qur’an 30:4, 3:32, 22:38

Can you bring which translation referring to the above mentioned quotation?

The ayats (verses) did not mention hates, but:

1) About the prophecies when Muslim getting some relief when Roman will defeat the Persian:
Within three to nine years. The decision of the matter, before and after (these events) is only with Allâh, (before the defeat of Romans by the Persians, and after, the defeat of the Persians by the Romans). And on that Day, the believers (i.e. Muslims) will rejoice (at the victory given by Allâh to the Romans against the Persians) — (Ar-Rum, 4 - Translation Dr Muhsin Khan)

Within a few years.  With Allah is the Decision, in the Past and in the Future: on that Day shall the Believers rejoice―
(Ar-Rum, 4 - Translation A Yusuf Ali)


2) About Allah does not love (does not like) those who reject faith
Say: "If ye do love Allah, follow me: Allah will love you and forgive you your sins; for Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful." (31) Say: "Obey Allah and His Messenger"; but if they turn back, Allah loveth not those who reject Faith. (Aal-e-'Imran, 31- 33 - Translation A Yusuf Ali)

In the above verse, ( لَا يُحِبُّ ) 'LA YUHIBBU' literally means 'does not love'.... is it that your logic Allah should love (and give rewards) those who rejects faith in Allah?

3) About Allah does not love those traitor to faith
Verily Allah will defend (from ill) those who believe: verily, Allah loveth not any that is a traitor to faith or shows ingratitude. (Al-Hajj, 38)

In the Al-Quran you will find out SO MANY TIMES on Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful, but those who rejects Islam will never look at that phrase...

Now could you tell me which translation version for Bible of which version that you use for comparison ???... before we go to the next question....

orangbesi

monyet_2015 replied at 6-2-2017 08:19 PM
nabi kahwin dengan aisyah sebab dapat mimpi ker?..
macam tak logik pulak alasannya.
rasa tragis  ...

nabi kahwin dengan aisyah sebab dapat mimpi ker?..
macam tak logik pulak alasannya.
rasa tragis sangat budak masih main anak patung disuruh kawin.
terbayang saiz anak sedara aku yg berumur 7 tahun..rasa tragis..
betul ke dpt mimpi dari Allah suruh kawin dgn kanak kanak  nih?


dari riwayat yg diperolehi
samada mimpi atau petunjuk/wahyu - Nabi hanya cuba terangkan pada Abu Bakar ttg ciri2 perempuan itu
terus Abu Bakar kata itu adalah anak dia, dan Nabi hanya diam


tapi terfikirkah kamu bagaimana Abu Bakar terus boleh kata : itulah anak aku
(mungkin kamu tidak memahami lagi sifat dirinya tu    dan kenapa beliau cukup akrab dgn Muhammad
mungkin yg Nabi gambarkan tu tak lah sama dgn anaknya tu sikit pun

dan satu lagi - dari si kecil comel nilah, iaitu si aishah
banyak persoalan yg sulit/malu nak ditanya/dijawab dapat kepada umatnya sampai hari ini
kerana Aishah sanggup tanya/jawab dgn Nabi walau perkara berkaitan apa yg terjadi dalam selimut
isteri2 Muhammad yg lainnya - susah nak tanya/jawab pasal dah ciri2 kewanitaan kan
jadi lebih banyak manfaat utk umatnya dr si kecil comel ni kan

dan pertanyaan - kenapa TUHAN jadikan perempuan mula datang period sejak umur 8/9/10 tahun lagi???
takkan itu pun kamu tak dapat berfikir kot

orangbesi

..Atheist. replied at 7-2-2017 06:25 AM
aku takleh bayangkan budak umur 6 tahun kawin dgn laki tua...... masa tu zaman bergolak kah? apaka ...

syukur lah camni
diperintahkan utk kawin perempuan yg baru datang period, masih keanak-anakan
dan umat islam selepas itu dapat lebih jawapan dr hal2 sulit ttg perkara dlm selimut

amacam kalau di perintahkan penggal leher
cam Ibrahim diperintahkan pada Ismail, amacam???
kamu sanggup ke???

atau macam kaum nasrani yg pulun nak menghukum mati Isa dr kecil
dapat juga si Isa tu sampai umur 33 tahun gak yeeeeee

orangbesi

..Atheist. replied at 7-2-2017 08:44 PM

haram ke camtu???
pada masa tu lah
sama gak dgn 100 tahun lepas kat tanah melayu pun
anak2 gadis dikawinkan umur 10 - 12 tahun
maklumlah dah datang period

yg HARAMNYA napalah kalian nak sangat bunuh si Isa tu ye???
aku tunggu sampai saat ini, tak de siapa pun yg berani jawab???
ko cubalah itu pun kalau kamu masih waras lagi

orangbesi

Wal..Hal replied at 7-2-2017 09:50 AM
No wonder kat UK ramai arab2 pedophile, sbb syaratnye asalkan akil baligh,umur 9thn pun budak pompua ...

the same thing dgn issue sembahyang arah kaabah, the non muslim claim dieorg xsembah berhala but the spirit inside which they cannot see thru naked eye same with muslim cannot see Allah swt too,



yg ni senang sikit
kalau dgn puak2 nasrani/kristian tu ko tanya napa mereka tak ngadap Baitul Muqaddis?
napa gereja2 tak mengadap tempat suci tu?
kan itu adalah tempat suci mereka sampai kiamat bukan utk org islam

pasal tulah Nabi mohon kat TUHAN agar berpindah kiblat ke Kaabah
sebagaimana Ibrahim dan anak cucunya disitu

kasitau mereka, kita ketika MENDIRIKAN SOLAT
dah dilatih/dididik utk bersatu, bekerjasama, seiringan dlm semua di luar di masa SOLAT
(walau ramai yg tak mampu/dapatbuat)