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Edisi fitnah : Dalam kristian tiada kasta!
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sam1528 replied at 11-2-2018 03:20 PM
Ha ha ... ko dah terlampau konfius & clueless lah meenachi
Apa salah kalo Allah Firman dgn ruju ...
Heh.
Kopipes google:
If we need a specific verse from the Quran that irrefutably proves that it also contains Muhammad’s words and statements, this is it!
Not only the first three words and the construction of the statement prove that the speaker of the statement was Muhammad; even the nuances of the Arabic grammar that govern the use of punctuation marks make it absolutely clear that it was Muhammad, and not Allah, who spoke those words of the verse.
The verse, previous to this one, ended with a big circle (a full stop in English) along with an instruction to the reader to bow his or her head after reaching its end. In other words, verse 51 is independent of verse 50 and that we should judge it solely on the basis of its contents.
Approaching the contents of the verse from the above standpoint, we find that the speaker of the words “Allah has said” were the words that came from Muhammad’s mouth. There is no way that Allah could have expressed Himself in those words, as doing that would have made Him not only batty, but also a subject of ridicule and contempt. |
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Edited by Redskin at 11-2-2018 03:36 PM
Tapi dalam Bible, ada Jesus nafikan bila orang kata (termasuk Thomas) dia Tuhan?
John 5:30
By myself, I can do nothing: I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for
I seek not to please myself but him who has sent me.
Jesus mengaku kelemahannya...
Mark 10:18
Why do you call me good? No one isgood, except God alone.
Hanya Elohim yg berhak segala pujian2.
Matthew 24:36
No one knows about that day orhour, not even the Son, but the Father only.
Kalo Jesus adalah Tuhan, tentula dia All Knowing.
Tetapi ternyata Jesus tidak tahu. God tidak tahu...
Matthew 27:46
My God, My God, why hastthou forsaken me?
[size=17.3333px]Time Jesus nak dibunuh...
Mana pergi POWER yg sepatutnya ada pada seorang God Almighty ??? 
Kalo Jesus God, dia berdoa pada siapa??
Berdoa pada diri sendiri kaaa??
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Redskin replied at 11-2-2018 03:11 PM
Kalo Bible tak kata "Jesus tak pernah mengaku dirinya Tuhan".
Bagaimana Kistian boleh kata Jes ...
Astaga bodohnya!
Kalo ramai pagans mengatakan memanggil Matahari itu adalah God.
Adakah ini bermakna Matahari adalah God ???
Sah2 la jawapannya, YA, MATAHARI TU GOD BAGI PAGAN YAMG MENYEMBAHNYA! |
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Org2 Kistian memanggil Pope "Holy Father"
Adakah ini bermakna pope adalah God ???
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Ha ha ... menala tawanan perang?
Ok , bagi rujukkan boleh tak
Tak lama lari lah lah ni
Tengok berapa berani ko
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Edited by Redskin at 11-2-2018 03:51 PM
Isaiah 43:10-12
10"You are My witnesses," declares the LORD,"And My servant whom I have chosen, So that you may know and believe Me and understand that I am He. Before Me therewas no God formed, And there will be none after Me. 11"I, even I, am the LORD, And there is no savior besides Me. 12"It is I whohave declared and saved and proclaimed, And there was no strange god among you;So you are My witnesses," declares the LORD, "And I am God.
Malachi 3:6
New International Version
"I the LORD do not change. So you, the descendants of Jacob, are not destroyed.
No saviour besides Me...macamana boleh kata Jesus the Saviour ???
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sam1528 replied at 11-2-2018 03:11 PM
Ha ha ... cikgu chazey dah mabuk ketum
Kalo disuruh mengatakan sesuatu & the person completely ...
Logik lobai.
If lobai suruh anak lobai mengaku dia penagih dadah, dan anak lobai percaya dia penagih dadah (walau dia tak menagih), maka dia telah mengakui bahwa dia seorang penagih dadah (walau tanpa sebarang pengakuan lisan mahupun bertulis).
Logik lobai.
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Ha ha ... kalo dah tak mampu jawab tu , kalah lah tu cikgu u chazey
Konsep senang macam ni pon ko tak paham ke?
So far apa yg ko mampu jawab selain dari maki hamun?
Ko hanya bagi kononnya pandangan ko. Aku nak rujukkan bible bukan pandangan ko yg tak bertauliah
Betul la depa kata pasal ko. Dah kalah sundri perasan menang perasan orang tak mampo lawan hujah dia. Geez.
Jawab:
Biblical Jesus was sent by God as what, Sam?
To call people to God in what way Sam?
To call people to the way of God
Apa yg susah dia?
So far no biblical proof from you that biblical Jesus was /is God
Kah kah kah .... looks like you've have nothing more in your locker
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Edited by chazey at 11-2-2018 03:57 PM
Redskin replied at 11-2-2018 03:21 PM
Malachi 3:6NewInternational Version
"I the LORD do not change. So you, the descendants ofJaco ...
Okay la lobai Foreskin,
Aku, pada mulanya, just counter attack claim lobai @Defcon2 yang fitnah Bible kata dalam Bible, Jesus takda cakap dia tuhan.
Bab Tuhan takleh berubah menjadi his own creation yada yada aku tak berminat nak debatkan. Ko pi berdebat dengan Kristian yang masih pircaya Jesus Tuhan. |
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Redskin replied at 11-2-2018 03:21 PM
Malachi 3:6NewInternational Version
"I the LORD do not change. So you, the descendants ofJaco ...
Btw, masa Elohim kata I the Lord do not change tu bukan ke berbicara tentang janji heol pada umat Yisroel yang takkan berubah karna Elohim tuhan maka Elohim takkan mengubah fikirannya?
Elohim bukan berbicara pasal bertukar bentuk jadik Jesus ka transformer ka hapa pon kan? |
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Redskin replied at 11-2-2018 03:56 PM
Takde pon dlm Bible cakap pasal TRINITY...
Apa pula takda?
Habis tu John 14: 9-11 segala tu apa bila Jesus kata he is in the father and the father is in him bagai? |
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sam1528 replied at 11-2-2018 03:46 PM
Ha ha ... menala tawanan perang?
Ok , bagi rujukkan boleh tak
Mana jawapan i tunggu tentang tuhan gila sam ....
Sahih al-Bukhari 4350—Narrated Buraida: The Prophet sent Ali to Khalid to bring the Khumus (of the booty) and I hated Ali, and Ali had taken a bath (after a sexual act with a slave-girl from the Khumus). I said to Khalid, “Don’t you see this (i.e., Ali)? When we reached the Prophet I mentioned that to him. He said, “O Buraida! Do you hate Ali?” I said, “Yes.” He said, “Don’t hate him, for he deserves more than that from the Khumus.” |
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Ha ha ... clueless cikgu chazey bagi artikel sooo vague
Takut pulak tu bagi link , ni lah dia perangai lobai & lobainita ateis & pro ateis , takut sgt bagi link rujukkan dia
aku tepek apa ko bagi :
If we need a specific verse from the Quran that irrefutably proves that it also contains Muhammad’s words and statements, this is it!
Not only the first three words and the construction of the statement prove that the speaker of the statement was Muhammad; even the nuances of the Arabic grammar that govern the use of punctuation marks make it absolutely clear that it was Muhammad, and not Allah, who spoke those words of the verse.
The verse, previous to this one, ended with a big circle (a full stop in English) along with an instruction to the reader to bow his or her head after reaching its end. In other words, verse 51 is independent of verse 50 and that we should judge it solely on the basis of its contents.
Approaching the contents of the verse from the above standpoint, we find that the speaker of the words “Allah has said” were the words that came from Muhammad’s mouth. There is no way that Allah could have expressed Himself in those words, as doing that would have made Him not only batty, but also a subject of ridicule and contempt.
Nuance of arabic grammar apa?
Full stop apa?
Tetiba Allah has said & words came from Prophet Muhammad(saw)
Argumen yg tak ada hujung pangkal
Kah kah kah ... ko dah pening lah clueless cikgu chazey .. skg ko nak cubalih perhatian ... kira2 ko dah surrender lah yg memang tak ada dlm bible biblical Jesus mengaku tuhan & mintak disembah
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Ha ha .. clueless cikgu chazey bagi logik org gila
Kalau anak tersebut bukan penagih dadah , macamana dia boleh percaya & mengaku diri dia tu penagih dadah
Pakai lah otak sikit ... ko ni cikgu ... mengajar anak2 org
Takut org nak bagi ko ajar anak mereka.
This is scary tengok logik cikgu yg teramat clueless
Kah kah kah ... ko baik rest lah ... ko dah semakin mereng
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Edited by chazey at 11-2-2018 04:16 PM
sam1528 replied at 11-2-2018 03:53 PM
Ha ha ... kalo dah tak mampu jawab tu , kalah lah tu cikgu u chazey
Konsep senang macam ni pon ...
Which word in the Bible does the Bible say that God the Father sent Jesus (just) to be His messenger? You didn't read the whole Bible, I guess?
You claimed that I was not able to come with any biblical proof that Jesus was indeed God in the Bible?
Pght.
It baffles me actually to look at how you made yourself fail to see the many Bible verses where Jesus said he is on an equal position with God the Father that I have been providing. It is indeed unfortunate that you refuse to accept them as proofs but I do not blame you if you let yourself be blinded by your own ego. Your comrade lobai @foreskin even had the guts to say Thomas responded to Jesus, calling him his Lord and God as an act of takajut upon seeing Jesus rising from the dead in the form of a flesh (because Thomas could touch him according to the Bible). Seeing how bodoh the two of you are is truly a revelation for me.
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Ha ha ... ini macam lobainita minah sewel aje
Kalo ko betul lobainita minah sewel , pasal apa ko takut masuk dgn nama ko?
At last , ko berani pulak bagi rujukkan
Mana jawapan i tunggu tentang tuhan gila sam ....
Sahih al-Bukhari 4350—Narrated Buraida: The Prophet sent Ali to Khalid to bring the Khumus (of the booty) and I hated Ali, and Ali had taken a bath (after a sexual act with a slave-girl from the Khumus). I said to Khalid, “Don’t you see this (i.e., Ali)? When we reached the Prophet I mentioned that to him. He said, “O Buraida! Do you hate Ali?” I said, “Yes.” He said, “Don’t hate him, for he deserves more than that from the Khumus.”
Which one?
Kita tengok ko berani tak jawab
Kah kah kah ... lets see how it goes
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Redskin replied at 11-2-2018 03:44 PM
Tetapi adakah Matahari itu God bagi org yg BERAKAL??
Ko ada akal tak...boleh ke manus ...
My Lord God....Respon ko...
Seriously?
Ketahuilah lobai Foreskin, agama Islam, agama Kristian, dua2 pun penuh dengan kebodohan jika kita betul2 berfikir menggunakan akal akan kelogikan ajaran kedua agama ini.
I pray that someday you will be enlightened. Tak usah mengecam satu agama saja karna ketahuilah agama ko sindri terlalu banyak flaws. Seperti ajaran mahzab Syafie ko di mana anak pompuan zina boleh dikahwini ayah kandungnya. |
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Redskin replied at 11-2-2018 03:32 PM
John 5:30
By myself, I can do nothing: I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for ...
Aku dah jawab persoalan ni berjela2 kat page seblom ni. Malas nak taip balik. Ko view author's post jah kalau nak tengok respon aku. |
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